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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: NotE]
    #864884 - 02/20/24 03:55 PM (4 months, 27 days ago)

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Are you saying straight coir is hydroponics? Because I thought hydro were the red Rubbermaid tub with like 8 holes bored in the lid with a spigot hot glue gunned to the bottom.  I have never heard str8 coir as hydro before. I thought it was those rock things. Miscommunication of sorts maybe?
Edit so I’m doing both hydro and soil at the same time. Now?



By straight coir, I mean straight up coco coir as a medium, no perlite, compost, or slow release ferts, just the same stuff you'd use to grow cubes.  It is a more or less inert medium, so you have to feed with a balanced nutrient mix at a specific pH range every watering, at least once a day for established plants.  You water till runoff to prevent nutrient salts from accumulating, hence why it is called drain to waste or run to waste coco.

It's technically considered "semi-hydroponics", as it uses a medium along with hydroponic nutrients.  Regarding typical hydro setups in canna culture, RDWC is probably the most popular; recirculating deep water culture.

I recommend reading up on a few different grow styles/methods, and picking the one that seems most doable to you.  Coco for cannabis is a good site to check out if you want to learn more about that style.

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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: yoosername]
    #864896 - 02/21/24 10:26 AM (4 months, 26 days ago)

I read perlite adds micro nutrients over time. So that’s why I put it in.
But what should I do about this I think I planted it upside down. is it a goner already?

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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: NotE]
    #864897 - 02/21/24 11:16 AM (4 months, 26 days ago)

Perlite is more so used for aeration, and is also more or less inert.  With organic mixes you can get by without it, but it helps you achieve faster drybacks which is beneficial when overwatering is a concern.

Sorry, can't really tell whats going on in that pic.

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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: yoosername]
    #864899 - 02/21/24 12:36 PM (4 months, 26 days ago)

I don’t want to touch it but can uv (edit) light be harmful to roots?

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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: NotE]
    #864903 - 02/21/24 02:33 PM (4 months, 26 days ago)

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I don’t want to touch it but can uv (edit) light be harmful to roots?



UVB and UVC can for sure, not sure about UVA.

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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: yoosername]
    #864921 - 02/22/24 12:21 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

Well strange it was white and I moved it for a better pic and it turned purple. I forgot to mention that i planted it upside down or on its side. I don’t plant deep. deep enough to be flush with soil. Maybe I should contact it more so if I water it doesn’t move. I was using the 10ml luer lock syringe with 16 ga tip to water them. But it takes forever. Like 40 ml per pot. So anyway I covered it up loosely. I always get this close to flushing mushies. And get scared and throw everything away. That’s what I got the things for. And I’m good at it too. I wish it were legal. Put a blue 411auto in a sab for 30 minutes before. and I get nearly 100% contam free. From agar. If it does contam, it just grows over it.

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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: NotE]
    #864928 - 02/22/24 07:32 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

This is pretty big now and I’m going to prune some of the biggest sunleaves. unless there is a better way to get light under to get the bottom branches to grow out. After tying down of course. Maybe you could turn the leafs 45 degrees.  but, how could one achieve such a thing. omit should I just focus on the top because there are so many branches?

Edited by NotE (02/22/24 08:22 PM)

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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: NotE]
    #864929 - 02/22/24 08:24 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

Did I top it too much?

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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: NotE]
    #864981 - 02/23/24 07:12 PM (4 months, 24 days ago)

I may turn 12/12 soon because if I don’t this thing will be a monster. It has to be northern lights with leaves like that. I got trellis net but it’s not set up properly I have to cut the thing to make it right. I’d rather get my money back.  Inside out ties unless it’s really bad. Thanks in advance for any input. Temp is about 76 down there. Soil temp is like 68. Well when I checked it once. Those buds are getting bigger especially the vmbroken branch one on bottom. It’s twice as big. I got so lucky. I had already completely ripped the other bottom on off.  I think it’s too late to prone those branches won’t yield. If I top one more time I should have something to write home about.








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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: NotE]
    #865000 - 02/24/24 10:08 AM (4 months, 23 days ago)

In the last two pics, it looks like they are already flowering.  Most likely autoflowers.

Running autos and photos in the same area presents an obstacle that you must pick a path around.  Autos do best with longer light cycles, photos as you know flower on 12/12.  I'd probably focus on the photoperiod plants for now.

When you flip will depend on how tall your grow space is, some plants stretch 2-3x during the first 3 weeks of flower.  If you wanted to flip now you'd get a lower yield, but the longer you wait the more difficult it becomes to keep the plant healthy through flower, especially while you're still figuring stuff out.

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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: yoosername]
    #865005 - 02/24/24 01:36 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

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In the last two pics, it looks like they are already flowering.  Most likely autoflowers.

Running autos and photos in the same area presents an obstacle that you must pick a path around.  Autos do best with longer light cycles, photos as you know flower on 12/12.  I'd probably focus on the photoperiod plants for now.

When you flip will depend on how tall your grow space is, some plants stretch 2-3x during the first 3 weeks of flower.  If you wanted to flip now you'd get a lower yield, but the longer you wait the more difficult it becomes to keep the plant healthy through flower, especially while you're still figuring stuff out.




Very solid advice  :thumbup:

I would actually do the opposite though,  and focus on the autos. 

Since he already has autos flowering,  it would be detrimental to them to put them under 12/12 just to get that photo-period plant to flower.

I'd run the lights 24/7 or 20/4 and get the most that I could out of those autos,  since they are already stunted.

That photo plant can be cut back a million times to keep it small until you are ready to flower it,  if need be.

For instance,  this was a mother plant,  that I decided to just flower. It kept getting pretty big, so all I did was cut it back by half when it got too big.

I also root pruned it a couple of times too. Needless to say, I need to smoke badly, so after that last cut back,  I just decided to flower it. I wont get much but it will be a treat until the real fun begins this spring  :yesnod:


This all being said,  Cannabis can remain in vegetative growth for years, and be cut back tons of times until you are ready to flower them  :happyweed:

Edited by Versicolour (02/24/24 01:37 PM)

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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: Versicolour]
    #865027 - 02/25/24 04:05 AM (4 months, 23 days ago)

Yeah I was I was thinking of going after thecphoto but I want some colloidal silver first. Before I flower. There are probably 20 clones I could get off that. Cuz I was running 20-4 but I accidentally just ran 24/7 so might just keep it on. I had to turn th vivosun down to25% it keeps burning the ones closest to it.
Edit. Do you think I can still top the flowering plants cuz I did. And want to again.

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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: Versicolour]
    #865028 - 02/25/24 04:10 AM (4 months, 23 days ago)

How do you get yours so neat looking g.

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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: NotE]
    #865029 - 02/25/24 05:41 AM (4 months, 23 days ago)

Yeah,  I would just keep that photo period one in vegetative growth until the autos finish up.
Hopefully it will be a female,  and like you said,  you can get tons of clones from it  :yesnod:

And,  I personally would not mess with,  or top the autos anymore.
Doing so,  can cause way more harm than good,  and your harvest will suffer immensely in the end.

When I do top autos, I always do it early in vegetative growth,  and never after they have started to flower.
It's too much stress on them,  and it can cause them to stunt, and produce terribly.

The way I keep my plants so neat and tidy is that I defoliate all the way throughout the flowering process.
About every week or so,  I trim off any bigger fan leaves that block light.

I don't do this on my outdoor in ground plants though,  only on my small potted plants that I grow around the house.
I'm not an indoor grower,  but since I have no access to any smoke,  I had to grow something out to hold me over until I can put some clones/seedlings outdoors next month.

Since my weed tolerance is non existent now,  I'll make this little girl last a long time  :yesnod:

Good luck,  and do keep on keeping us posted  :thumbup:

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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: Versicolour]
    #865101 - 02/26/24 03:39 PM (4 months, 21 days ago)

Every time I prune. I end up messing it up. But I will keep you posted. Nothing much has changed mainly because I don’t have goggles and the vivosun is. BRight.  H2O2 does work for killing off egg infestations. It just takes multiple treatments and doesn’t seem to affect the plants. If anything I think they grew faster. Edit yeah I topped like 3 nodes in and then again after that.

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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: yoosername]
    #865105 - 02/26/24 03:49 PM (4 months, 21 days ago)


I made compost for growing gourmet edible mushrooms.it’s written on top which is which but I was testing what works best as sub. Almost straight millet or half millet half oatmeal. They aren’t pinning because. They are gourmet. Still need to finish em and have blue oyster and shhittake fresh.
Edit more. If they were cubes. that done atleast brf cakes would be pinning the cake down. All grown from agar.

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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: NotE]
    #865109 - 02/26/24 04:51 PM (4 months, 21 days ago)

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Every time I prune. I end up messing it up. But I will keep you posted. Nothing much has changed mainly because I don’t have goggles and the vivosun is. BRight.  H2O2 does work for killing off egg infestations. It just takes multiple treatments and doesn’t seem to affect the plants. If anything I think they grew faster. Edit yeah I topped like 3 nodes in and then again after that.




Use little nail scissors, they work great for pruning  :yesnod:



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I made compost for growing gourmet edible mushrooms.it’s written on top which is which but I was testing what works best as sub. Almost straight millet or half millet half oatmeal. They aren’t pinning because. They are gourmet. Still need to finish em and have blue oyster and shhittake fresh.
Edit more. If they were cubes. that done atleast brf cakes would be pinning the cake down. All grown from agar.





Those look great man :thumbup:

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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: Versicolour]
    #865126 - 02/27/24 02:26 PM (4 months, 20 days ago)

That’s a good idea.

Edited by NotE (02/27/24 02:27 PM)

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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: NotE]
    #865169 - 03/01/24 01:26 PM (4 months, 17 days ago)




[url=https://files.growery.org/files/g24-009/932503284-IMG_0848.jpg]I guess it’s got two extras just on the side of plant easiest to access. Idk if I rotated and topped over there. But I’m gonna try my hand out on some cloning. This thing needs pruned and cut way back. Just to keep all the plants the same height. So I think that is what I will try till I get about 6 clones.

It’s old enough I think the last pic. Would be flowering and a shot of my cracked corn autoflower I’m still trying to talk to the company for.

Edited by NotE (03/01/24 01:31 PM)

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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: NotE]
    #865170 - 03/01/24 01:40 PM (4 months, 17 days ago)

I want to get some bc god bud or grape ape. Try next.

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