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Re: INDICA VS SATIVA [Re: kreg] * 1
    #852073 - 11/15/21 04:33 PM (11 days, 16 hours ago)

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40x Salvia- where your body is crumpled into a black hole and you enter a realm made of chutes n ladders



When you say it like that it sounds like I'd love it but so many people say it's a difficult experience




I was not a fan, but I've heard people say that the extracts take you too far too fast. Salvia taken responsibly can apparently be a very pleasant experience. I never messed with it long enough to find that balance. :shrug:


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Re: INDICA VS SATIVA [Re: Connectedcosmos]
    #852075 - 11/15/21 06:03 PM (11 days, 14 hours ago)

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40x Salvia- where your body is crumpled into a black hole and you enter a realm made of chutes n ladders



I bought 60x.....didn't feel shit but everyone else tripped monkey dick


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Re: INDICA VS SATIVA [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #852076 - 11/15/21 06:23 PM (11 days, 14 hours ago)

Don't believe you , not 1 bit

:lol:

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Nah I do spirit , that is crazy as fuck have you tried since?


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Re: INDICA VS SATIVA [Re: Connectedcosmos]
    #852077 - 11/15/21 07:11 PM (11 days, 13 hours ago)

salvia can create feelings of being content and acceptance of self and an inward  journey, often times voices and hallucinations can make it fairly unpleasant and most people don't like it very much.  last time i did a whole bag of 20X and i would upgrade to 40X next time :blush:


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Re: INDICA VS SATIVA [Re: Jenny] * 1
    #852080 - 11/15/21 08:10 PM (11 days, 12 hours ago)

I wanna try some plain like Salvia leaf or w.e I've heard that can be different than smoking the extracts

Also curious about fly agaric mushroom., may put that on the to-do list here soon


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Re: INDICA VS SATIVA [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
    #852081 - 11/15/21 08:37 PM (11 days, 12 hours ago)

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40x Salvia- where your body is crumpled into a black hole and you enter a realm made of chutes n ladders



I bought 60x.....didn't feel shit but everyone else tripped monkey dick



*cucumber wrapped in foil falls down pant* 

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Re: INDICA VS SATIVA [Re: Sham87]
    #852083 - 11/15/21 08:42 PM (11 days, 12 hours ago)

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Re: INDICA VS SATIVA [Re: kreg] * 1
    #852084 - 11/15/21 08:50 PM (11 days, 12 hours ago)

:casket:


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Re: INDICA VS SATIVA [Re: Connectedcosmos]
    #852088 - 11/16/21 06:14 AM (11 days, 2 hours ago)

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Don't believe you , not 1 bit

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Nah I do spirit , that is crazy as fuck have you tried since?



Nope. I tried a few times before the 60x which didn't work hence why I bought the 60..


I was like THIS should work.....
Didn't work, I spent that money for nothing but everyone else to flip shit :aweshit:


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Re: INDICA VS SATIVA [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #852090 - 11/16/21 06:20 AM (11 days, 2 hours ago)

Oh and to finish the story, I went home after the last person I smoked with flipped shit screaming and I didnt...

So I went home it was night, I said fuck it I AM GOING TO TRIP :notsureif: so I pack the rest I had into a giant bowl(for reference everyone tripped shit off of like 2 hits) I hit that bowl like my life depended on it and held it until I couldn't hold breath anymore.....swear to God didn't feel anything. I dont fucking get it....



Edit: I am for real jealous of everyone....all my close ones got to experience it as well an I'm sitting here like :aweshit:


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Re: INDICA VS SATIVA [Re: spirit_shadow] * 3
    #852106 - 11/16/21 10:19 AM (10 days, 22 hours ago)

Salvinorin A (the main psychoactive compound in salvia) is a potent kappa opioid agonist. Kappa opioid agonists are known for causing hallucinations and dissociation in humans. You said you don't get euphoria from opiates, which may suggest something going on in the ventral tegmental area. You may have some sort of opioid receptor expression issue in certain areas of the brain if its only salvia and opiates that don't quite work correctly.

Do you experience euphoria from stimulants? Do you tend to drink more than your peers? Have you tried Kratom, and if so how did that experience compare to what other people describe?

I also do not get much pleasure from opiates. I tend to itch and feel nausea more than feel "good", even if it helps with the pain. I was able to get an effect from salvia though... :shrug:


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Re: INDICA VS SATIVA [Re: Data]
    #852108 - 11/16/21 10:56 AM (10 days, 22 hours ago)

Took only half a G kratom this morning trying to have it with breakfast had to stop and sit down for a minute! Gonna go to the park before work

edit: i don't know how i got lost and thought i was in the chat thread there or whatever happened hahaha :stoned:


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Re: INDICA VS SATIVA [Re: Data]
    #852111 - 11/16/21 11:19 AM (10 days, 21 hours ago)

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Salvinorin A (the main psychoactive compound in salvia) is a potent kappa opioid agonist. Kappa opioid agonists are known for causing hallucinations and dissociation in humans. You said you don't get euphoria from opiates, which may suggest something going on in the ventral tegmental area. You may have some sort of opioid receptor expression issue in certain areas of the brain if its only salvia and opiates that don't quite work correctly.

Do you experience euphoria from stimulants? Do you tend to drink more than your peers? Have you tried Kratom, and if so how did that experience compare to what other people describe?

I also do not get much pleasure from opiates. I tend to itch and feel nausea more than feel "good", even if it helps with the pain. I was able to get an effect from salvia though... :shrug:



I wouldn't say I can drink more because my tolerance is almost zero,but when I was drinking with friends I could handle my alcohol way better. The effects of alcohol go away fast as well. And if I'm actually drunk I absolutely can not sleep until the effects wear off. It is miserable which is why I don't really drink lol. As for kratom I've done it a handful of times when I had teeth issues and a friend gave me some. it helped with the pain but made me feel nauseos. No euphoria with that either.


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Re: INDICA VS SATIVA [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #852177 - 11/17/21 07:05 PM (9 days, 13 hours ago)

you are super_shadow!!! only one solution, slam 80x salvia extract x N-(1-(2-phenethyl)-4-piperidinyl-N-phenyl-propanamide...


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Re: INDICA VS SATIVA [Re: Sham87]
    #852184 - 11/17/21 07:38 PM (9 days, 13 hours ago)

after a quick search, that's a fet analog, whhyy? :crazy:


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Re: INDICA VS SATIVA [Re: kreg] * 1
    #852187 - 11/17/21 08:13 PM (9 days, 12 hours ago)

I'm good :lolsy:


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Re: INDICA VS SATIVA [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
    #852225 - 11/18/21 07:08 PM (8 days, 13 hours ago)

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Re: INDICA VS SATIVA [Re: Jenny]
    #852226 - 11/18/21 07:25 PM (8 days, 13 hours ago)

Your mom is a sativa :burn:


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Re: INDICA VS SATIVA [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #852230 - 11/18/21 09:55 PM (8 days, 11 hours ago)

I'm still convinced sativa and indica exist with very different phenos and effects in the finished product regardless of hybridizing.
Like back to dogs, just because new dogs and mutts exist doesnt mean pure breds and dogs with preserved lineages or whatever don't exist anymore


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