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Kind 1000xl led vs 1000 hps
    #837037 - 04/10/19 11:39 AM (1 month, 8 days ago)



WOW check out the buds under both lights that this guy grows!

Five days before harvest.







LED 62.15 OZ or 3.88 pounds wet.

HPS 68.33 OZ or 4.27 pounds wet.

LED $1850 usd https://www.kindledgrowlights.com/products/k5-xl1000-led-grow-lights

Vs $300 cnd 1000 HPS  https://www.growlights.ca/growlights/grow-light-kits/1000-watt-kits.html



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Re: Kind 1000xl led vs 1000 hps [Re: Rider420]
    #837038 - 04/10/19 12:02 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Jesus man.. that price is insane... even the max yield from perfectsun is less than 1k and puts out crazy buds... I love my LED setup but screw that money :smile:


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Re: Kind 1000xl led vs 1000 hps [Re: Icetech]
    #837042 - 04/10/19 12:59 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

That kind LED is way overpriced and designed poorly. When one diode breaks the whole fixture starts to suck.  Modular lighting is the way to get into these fixtures today. putting them all together like that is 2011 technology.


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Re: Kind 1000xl led vs 1000 hps [Re: phychotron]
    #837044 - 04/10/19 08:11 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)



The guy just released the dry totals from both lights.

It seems rather balanced but LED lights will pay for themselves in power savings if they last longer then seven years. 400 watts per 12 hours is 4.8 KW at 14 cents per watt that is 67 cents your saving per day or 244.55 per year of use. Note the american average 14 cents and in Canada its 12 cents.

Personally I'm sold on the Vero Series from Bridgelux 160 lm per watt but have not decided on who to buy from. 80000 hour life or 18 years at 12 hours per day before it loses 30 percent of light is very impressive and cost effective. Might pick a 400 watt unit up for a summer run.

https://bridgelux.com/products/vero-series


https://www.growlights.ca/led-grow-lights/fusion-pro/fusion-pro-x800-led-system.html

Fusion PRO LED x800 Specifications



Size 475*404*90mm Actual Power 400 Watts
Input Voltage AC85~265V LED Quantity 40pcs 20W COB
Output Voltage DC32~45V LED Type Bridgelux
Lifespan 80,000 Hours Ratio Full Spectrum/UV/IR
Working Environment
-20~65℃,
45%~95%RH

PPFD
2356umol/1feet
1685umol/3feet

Net Weight 15kg Lighting Area 6x4 Feet
Warranty 2 Years Replaces 800 Watt HPS / MH
Lumens Per Watt 160lm G.W. 18.9g
Flux Lumens 64000lm IP Rating IP66
LED Driver Meanwell Driver Color Rendering Index 95+


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Re: Kind 1000xl led vs 1000 hps [Re: Rider420]
    #837053 - 04/11/19 07:32 AM (1 month, 7 days ago)

Why the cobs? that price is a bit nuts compared to a QB.. i believe a 500w QB which will also have a much bigger footprint you can have for under 500 now..


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Re: Kind 1000xl led vs 1000 hps [Re: Icetech]
    #837103 - 04/12/19 01:22 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

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Icetech said:
Why the cobs? that price is a bit nuts compared to a QB.. i believe a 500w QB which will also have a much bigger footprint you can have for under 500 now..




Because those cob LED produce 160 lumens per watt and their light spectrum is made for plant growth rather then wasting light in a full spectrum that plants don't use. Where as QB use Samsung full spectrum led lights for indoor lighting rather then plant growth.

Be careful when buying LED lights some only produce 60 lumens per watt.

https://www.growlights.ca/led-grow-lights/fusion-bright-led-systems/fusion-bright-linear-2ft-100-real-watt-full-spectrum-led-bar.html

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Fusion Bright (1.87FT Actual) 100 Real Watt Linear LED Grow Light.

Ideal for all phases of plant growth, and works well with hydroponic or soil grows. IP67 means this light can get wet and damp and still work.

LED Quantity: 140pcs
Real Wattage: 100 Watts
3500 Lumens
Driver: Meanwell Driver
Size: 570mm x 143mm x 85mm
N.W.: 3.5KG
LED Chips: EPILED SMD 3030
Luminous Efficiency: 57.86lm/w
Lamp Material: aluminium (Best heat dissipation material)
IP rating: IP67
Beam Angles: 90×90°
Warranty: 1 year
Fixture painting: White
Working Temp: -20 ~ +45°C
Life: 50000H
Certification: CETL CE ROHS




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Re: Kind 1000xl led vs 1000 hps [Re: Rider420]
    #837104 - 04/12/19 01:27 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

Eck that's a horrible LED... the qb boards are using lm301b's which are 240lumen per watt..


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Re: Kind 1000xl led vs 1000 hps [Re: Icetech]
    #837105 - 04/12/19 01:38 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

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Icetech said:
Eck that's a horrible LED... the qb boards are using lm301b's which are 240lumen per watt..




Opinions on the best LED light are like assholes everyone has one. And because of the profit there are a lots of lies and misleading information and crap being sold. :laugh:


Yet another case where more is not necessarily better.

Full spectrum LED lights produce light in spectrum that plants don't use and produce less bud even with more lumens.


Edited by Rider420 (04/12/19 01:50 PM)


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Re: Kind 1000xl led vs 1000 hps [Re: Rider420]
    #837107 - 04/12/19 02:46 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

I'm just gonna remind everybody that lums are meaning less when it comes to plants. PAR is what is important.


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