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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Theman]
    #829132 - 10/21/17 04:41 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

To be fair, I have a tiny house and have never driven a car, outside of learning how to drive, 28 year old.

But am still just as guilty really, but I definitely don't drive.

I'm not too concerned here in Kansas. I may move west to get out of tornado alley.

Milankovitch cycles should be pushing us cooler soon. Lot's of people think it should have already started cooling earlier this decade due to these orbital factors. I've never looked into how those paleoclimate folks figured that stuff out... we can just check out current orbital parameters with a fairly low amount of work... right? I suppose the issue with that would be the lag between the forcing from changes in solar energy and the climate response.

If anyone is interested/bored. Look into climate oscillations. The El nino/nina one is well known, but there are quite a few that are pretty interesting to pay attention to.


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #829134 - 10/21/17 09:00 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

No. I tried contributing and everyone laughed at me.

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Re: General Science Thread [Re: poor boy]
    #829136 - 10/21/17 09:24 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I didn't laugh.

But then again, I can't laugh. I am an android...

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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Theman]
    #829137 - 10/21/17 09:45 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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Not say oil is bad as people will just shut down if u say tgat. Plus we all live in large homes drive and eat fruit where gortex. so cant say oil is bad




That's like telling a smoker with lung cancer that he can't tell other people not to smoke, or advocate legislation against the promotion of smoking to media consumed primarily by children.

People who shut down for the apparent hypocrisy are just ignoring their own bias and justifying their response with something that just isn't there.

The use of fossil fuels or products derived from the use of fossil fuels is a necessity to not starve to death in modern society. The whole point of spreading the word about the need to decouple from fossil fuels is because it takes a unified effort in order to do so. A few people can't just stop using fossil fuels and then convince everyone else to join them out in the woods...thats ridiculous. We have to all advocate the decoupling from fossil fuels, in order to drive a development of alternative technologies. We have to help those technologies get off the ground, get the infrastructure in place, incentivise the switch...or just let the world flop around in complete panic when we run out of fossil fuels in the noy so distant future, and eventually get to the same place We'll end up anyway...but probably end up with a lot more acute suffering along the way.

I would imagine that being solely dependant on a fuel for our very way of life will make us very desperate people, willing to do anything to get it when it starts becoming scarce. The probability of war between countries will more than likely rise as we approach that point of running out. Having a replacement on hand will alleviate those tensions somewhat...and would allow us to maintain something similar to our current way of life. All of that technology requires time to develop, and energy...energy that we won't have available if we wait too long.

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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Data]
    #829187 - 10/23/17 09:16 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Tgat smoking analogy doesnt really mean anything. 100% dif.

But being a hypocrite makes ome sound uneducated or ignorant millenial complain and expect others to fix and make  o change themselves.


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Theman]
    #829190 - 10/24/17 05:55 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Perhaps you would care to explain why my analogy is 100% different. I see an interpretation of hypocracy when the situation and intent is wholly ignored. Thus, the analogy is relevant.

I am saying that less introspective people may see that message as hypocratic, because they are looking for any pseudo-logical reason to ignore said message. Trying to reduce your carbon footprint as much as possible and still keep up is enough to start a call to legislators to work on a solution for the necessary, baseline carbon footprint necessary to survive in society.

It's everyone's problem, stating that while trying to change your small part of it is not hypocrisy in my book.


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Data]
    #829246 - 10/26/17 04:09 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

4-dimensional black hole could have spawned the universe.

Time to switch topics...everyone smoke up and think about this one for a minute...


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Data] * 1
    #829523 - 11/10/17 11:47 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(16)31385-X

Haven't had a chance to fully read through this, but it looks like they've resolved how different cannabinoids interact with the CB1 receptor in different ways, resulting in different effects.

I'll read it when the semester breaks in December, for now I'll post it here.


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Data] * 1
    #829544 - 11/12/17 07:09 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

This and different sex positions.


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: poor boy]
    #829592 - 11/15/17 12:54 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Climatology sucks balls


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: drawde]
    #829594 - 11/15/17 01:40 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

?


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Data] * 1
    #829595 - 11/15/17 02:56 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Just spent like 50 hours writing one little 6 page term paper on paleoclimatic proxies. Fuck that shit, never again.


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: drawde]
    #829628 - 11/16/17 12:24 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Yea research projects and papers take up way too much time and effort.


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Data]
    #829629 - 11/16/17 12:28 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

What are you going to school for? That paper sounds hella interesting.


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Data]
    #829637 - 11/16/17 05:53 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Finishing up my Bsc. I'll send it you if you like. Would be interesting to have your opinion.


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Data]
    #829638 - 11/16/17 06:50 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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Yea research projects and papers take up way too much time and effort.




Any other topic I'd have a comparable paper done in half the time or less


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: drawde] * 1
    #829640 - 11/16/17 07:05 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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Finishing up my Bsc. I'll send it you if you like. Would be interesting to have your opinion.




Yeah man. For sure.


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: drawde]
    #829651 - 11/16/17 07:46 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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Just spent like 50 hours writing one little 6 page term paper on paleoclimatic proxies. Fuck that shit, never again.



So, do you mind me ask you what isotope ratios and types of specimens used were?

I wrote a dozen or so pages as a review about the messinian salinity crisis, km thick gypsum beds man. So T H I C C

It's amazing how many other chemistry bros don't even know stable isotopes exist, and that their existence has a much larger impact on the "atomic mass" we use to convert between mass and moles. I assume its because radiometric dating, and atomic chemistry focuses much more on the more unstable isotopes.


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #829652 - 11/16/17 08:00 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

It was all very brief but I discussed tree-rings, Sr/Ca in corals, and pollen.

Yeah even I knew about everything you mention there long before doing this climate course, and I never even got through first year chemistry.
I notice similar things with people who actually do chemistry, and end up having to explain concepts.
The lack of knowledge 'educated' people exhibit routinely floors me.


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: drawde]
    #829653 - 11/16/17 08:05 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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Finishing up my Bsc. I'll send it you if you like. Would be interesting to have your opinion.




I'd actually love to give it a read :highfive:


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