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    #814851 - 06/13/16 02:38 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #814894 - 06/13/16 08:37 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Thought i'd throw up a couple shots of two Special Queen x original Afghani I have running under some t5..only a couple right now to help save on power..ac is running constantly right now. Both are right at 26 days flower, 32 days 12/12

First one is a clone of my recessive lanky pheno...I just call her the lanky queen. Sadly didnt have any clones ready to start the outdoor season this year. My only outdoors were from seed lol. She is way to lanky and stretchy for indoor under t5 obviously, I just wanted to see what would happen. Have been concentrating on "other" ethnobotanicals this season.





And a clone of one of my more indica phenos...I affectionately call her the fatass queen :lol: her yeilds are great and her buds are very kushy :cool: Not as potent as the lanky queen but yeilds indoor are MUCH better :wink:




In another week or two they will start to REALLY pack on the resin glands, the fatass phenos seem to do a LOT of work in the last few week as one would expect of an indica dom. The recessive phenos tend to go fairly steady throughout flower...lots of pheno variance since its a first gen cross, but some are some true gems to work with :laugh:


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815020 - 06/15/16 07:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

More pics.

The garden has a welcomed visitor. made itself right at home, hope she hangs out for a bit. :laugh:











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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815123 - 06/16/16 06:04 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

More shots of the indoors u.der t5 and cfl side light...gonna cola up nicely for small flourescent plants :smile: hitting that part of the grow we all know where the wait becomes meddening

Lanky Queen...she's gonna have a good bit of sugary trim for a little chunk of hash or a precure spliff lol




Fatass Queen (shes way harder to get good pics of)




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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815132 - 06/16/16 07:38 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Looking good :smile:


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Nevar44]
    #815134 - 06/16/16 07:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yay I finally have a comment on my growery thread!!!!!! Thanks man

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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815135 - 06/16/16 08:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The queen looks a little po'd

Drought?


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Nevar44]
    #815139 - 06/16/16 09:44 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Which queen? Fatass or lanky? Outdoor? I call them all afghani queens, or just queens... watered this morning and lanky droops every time she gets a thorough wTering for a few hours. Always bounces back

If you tLking about the yellowing leaves with brown spots on the bottom of the fatass thats because I lolipopped the premie buds those leaves were feeding a week ago or so. They wernt getting enough light to do anything but hermie, and now the plant is letting them die and is consuming them for their nutrition because they are no longer necessary, since shes a purely organic plant she is doing that all in the name of effeciency lol




If your talking out the bud leaves pointing down, the fatass just does that, just one of her traits lol



She actualy gets that downward angles bud leaf trait from her momma :3 Special Queen #1... the fatass queen is actually somewhere under that frost in this pic lololol, she got seeded early on in flower




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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815140 - 06/16/16 09:55 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I'm talking about the pistals that turned orange on the tips prematurely?

My bb and blue knight the bottom leaves point downward also can be anoyying first time around not knowing that lol


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Nevar44]
    #815141 - 06/16/16 09:59 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Nope...shes gonna have 30-50 babies :laugh:.  Enough for me and friends (feel free to pm if you want some, would be down for a genetics swap with a half dozen beans or more) Polenated with some more seedsman afghani #1 lol. Genetic would be (Special Queen #1 x Afghani #1) x Afghani #1 (dnt worry, is not the same male afghani as the first father plant...no inbreeding here :smile:....Not worried Bout yeild loss...outdoor is a damn neaar identical phenotype

When you pollenate early and carefully you still get a lot of seed free calyx develop over the seeded ones. And each bud is still plenty dank, just has a few seeds in each nug near the center stem

Those pics are a few days old...the pollenated hairs have alreay gone all red now..calyxes to swell shortly



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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Nevar44]
    #815147 - 06/16/16 10:52 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Nevar44 said:
I'm talking about the pistals that turned orange on the tips prematurely?

My bb and blue knight the bottom leaves point downward also can be anoyying first time around not knowing that lol



Actually, looking closely your right...there are some orange tips on pistils I didnt even get pollen anywhere near. Must have a bit too much air flow on her lol, gonna bump the fan down a setting


Also, my outdoor is going Into flower a couple weeks ahead of schedule lol

Gonna go ahead and call it...outdoor day 1 flower  6/16/16---- Possible autoflower characteristic maybe? Days still getting longer.



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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815193 - 06/17/16 07:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Interesting

I'll ask my buddy when the blue knight start to flower outside in chico CA... I know it finishes in late September

Hey milktruck, what type of foodgrade soils do u like to use?

How does a guy know he is buying food grade soil and/or Fertilizers?


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Nevar44]
    #815199 - 06/17/16 08:35 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The easiest way to tell if your fertilizer is food grade, is...is it marketed as vegetable food? Or just "multi plant food"

Companies have to bend to meet certain consumer guidelines to be able to market organics for the purpose of food production, the laws surrounding chemical fertilizers are usually different, and much more sketchy in order to benefit the petroleum industry, and stimulate more economic exchange around petroleum itself.

At this rate this outdoor queen is gonna finish in late Aug. Early Sept.

My indoor soil itself minus the ferts is 2 parts coir, 1 part homemade composted random stuff, 1 part 50/50 mix rock ust and hardwood ash, and 1 part perlite, for a five part mix...other than that I , just blend in a couple cups of my ecosystem in a bag organics per gallon of soil...last through flower no problem and has never given me any deficiencies OR over efficiencies, cannis seems to like the micro fauna in the Jobe's fertilizer a LOT..


The soil doesnt look or smell very tasty compared to my old coir buckets with roots or GH, but man, it works a treat



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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815214 - 06/18/16 10:51 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Rock on :smile:

I run a peat, lil verm, and lots of perlite soil mix. 3 part mix.

It's sets your cation exchange capacity JUST right.

I can feed one gallon of full strength nutrients everyday. They use it all, no burns.

I'm in a 15 gal pot.

This is my first run w thus soil mixture but the recipe was given to me by soil scientists honestly. I expect a half lb of each plant at least :smile:

Adding perlite adds the need to water more. But it also allows them to feed faster more efficiently it seems

Promix BX, cut with 25% perlite for sativas. Cut with 40% perlite for indicas.

I'd guess ur yeilds would go up w a similar soil mix

I got a half lb, of one plant in a five gallon pot which was somewhat bound when it went to flower. My first plant ever. I didn't cut the happy frog soil w perlite at all that it was in. I ran a feed, feed, water scheduel.

So I know I'll get more this round. That yeild was a blue dream sour grape F1 cross

I would try out a 2-3 part perlite ratio see what happens :smile:


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Nevar44]
    #815217 - 06/18/16 12:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Cant lol or I would...my schedule just barwly lets me keep up with their schedule as it is lol. When they go a little dry I have to have a buffer of time to get to them as im not always around and every time I trust someone to handle them a few days VERY bad things always happen lol.

I used to run a lot more perlite when I ran coir, but I also need to moisture to sit around a bit longer now so my mychorhyzal fungi and bacteria stay cultured well and dont have to reculture every other day do to const wetting and drying cycle.

Basically, its easier this way and still works out well.

On another subject, I went out and did some very mild LST to open the outdoor queen up a bit.  She looks like she's loving all the sunlight :3







She's reaching for that SUN!!!! Is a good day for growing...high 70s, not too humid, not a cloud in the sky...love it!!!


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815219 - 06/18/16 12:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Hmmm

Peat seems to be a better soilless additive in that case maybe. It holds water enough so u don't lose u mycos at least I think.

It's deceiveing tho, when I first started using it I thought that i needed to let it dry out a lot more than u do...

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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Nevar44]
    #815221 - 06/18/16 12:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I'd use peat but when I do gnats always drive me nuts lolol...I fucking hate gnats!!!!!!! XD

Surprisingly only see one every now and then with my current mix.

Indoor puny plant porn lol...wish I had put more effort Into getting the fatass's canopy as even as the lanky..would make more efficient use of the t5...tis the cost of missing a lot of the beginning of the grow and relying partly on others :lol:

Lanky first...gonna use a little bit less nitrogen in the mix , if I run her again, the sativa in her dna apparently wants NO n2 during flower...she could be fatter at this point I know it.








And fatass...she is really really hard to get close enough to get focused shots to see the resin, shes just starting to ramp it up. Gonna have to wait for fattening nugs for good porn of her. Is gonna be worth the wait

Anyone else see some of that skunk from the momma coming out in those pistils? :cool: I do lol





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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815377 - 06/20/16 04:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Turned off the 6500k t5 for a few mins to get some good pics under the warm white side lighting, they seem to show the actuall color of the plants a bit better than the 6500k does mixed with the warm whites in photo (running a mixed spectrum atm because i am NOT growing this round for concentrates, and going for dry flower lol)

fatass queen as of this morning, still behind lanky for some reason, mybe it because shes concentrating on making some seeds





And my lanky, flowering out a bit quicker than im used to for whatever reason, she likes the jobe's xD. this is probably the last time im gonna rn the lanky queen though, i have better hybrids laying around i still need to pop some more of.







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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815488 - 06/21/16 05:37 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Outdoor Fatass Queen responded quite nicely to the mild LST. And shes already throwing out some glandular trichs on a few of the fan leaves :cool::blazed:











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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815492 - 06/21/16 06:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

looks great!


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #815539 - 06/22/16 04:36 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Thank ya kindly!

I am quite pleased with my results when I compare them to my monetary investment in the hobby :wink: which still sits, including electricity, under $120 a YEAR.


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815566 - 06/22/16 09:56 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

that's pretty sweet I'm still in debt to the hobby I paid alot less than I was expecting to I'm just under a grand including electricity and stupid purchases and it's almost harvest time so pretty stoked it will eventually pay for its self I spent a lot more when I started playing with mushies and that paid off handsomely


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #815581 - 06/23/16 12:43 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Well, when I actually add it up without guessing, including electricity its more like $250 a year, but assuming I produce more than an ounce n a half (lolol) in that year ive saved money lol. I smoke less than a gram a day in flower weight so a small t5 setup and an outdoor plant or two is more than enough for me :cool:

Especially considering the quality, my smoke tends to be much nicer then the local stuff available at stupidly high prices around here. People here love to grow tons of plants and crop it early and lightly compress it to make their money. Their primary concern is quantity and not quality. Same with local wax around here, most is made unpurged with shitty gas station lighter butane.

Cant wait for the medical laws to go into effect....


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815587 - 06/23/16 03:00 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

lol nice electricity alone is $600 a year here well if I ran 24hr which I haven't since the first month now I'm just vegging in my little pet project mini veg tent so maybe $400 a year running everything but my lights 24hr


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #815588 - 06/23/16 03:27 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

i veg at 18/6, and is only MAX 350 watts (two 156 watt t5 panels and cfl side lighting) and thats if im running a full 6 plants and fill it up.

and i only veg for MAX 3-4 weeks, and make my yeild in plant count over plant size so i can veg a smaller amount of time, i actually get better yeilds this way in faster time, atm i cant use my full setup though, had to use the closet for temporary storage, is just one t5 panel and some cfl's on two plants currently, gonna try and make my yeild back up with my outdoor queen.

so 40/52 weeks a year im running 12/12 only and my yeilds are actually better than when i ran 2-4 large plants or a single DWC plant. :cool: i start plants on a table directly under a 42 watt 6500k cfl since inconsistencies in lighting during veg dont seem to do much harm. works great till they are large enough for me to flower in my setup when im running 6.


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815590 - 06/23/16 05:05 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

ahhh I see I have to keep it under 8 plants total due to the laws here... I don't but that's what I'm striving for there are just so many strains i wanna play with lol

I have been vegging under incandescent grow bulbs at the moment and they suck so I'm gonna change the rig to cfls I tried ked before and the stretched all crazy like I made an air light rig with the incandescents but they still run too hother to be in the same space as the plants so I have to use a clear plastic barrier to keep the plants cool as soon as seeds pop they go in to the veg tent and stay till they get a good start

not really in a huge rush more just getting to know what works best for me when I get to a set method that I enjoy I'll worry about tweaking it to produce quality and quantity right now just trying out different things this is my favorite part of my hobbies I already started mixing my own nutes and at least my flowering nutes seems to work great I haven't run out of micro and veg nutes yet so still running gh for those...


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #815619 - 06/23/16 03:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

You can usually find 42 watt CFLs that put out about 2500 lumenseach, is a 175 watt incandescent equivalent.

I have found that ONE of these can veg a seedling up to 3-4 weeks (depending on how fast it grows) without any stretching.

Obviously if you veg longer than that you may need two per plant

They work great and only cost about $10 each at Walmart.

And if you feel like scaring yourself, go lookup what toxic heavy metals and chemicals are used in GH nutes...

Is full arsenic, lead, nickel,zinc, among other unwanted things..there is huge reason I stick to organics marketed for food production.

Although tbh, my best yeild ever from a single plant came from a DWC plant I was using GH flora series is on,and the bud was dank as fuck xD 4.8 ounces from a single 40" indoor plant under 340 watts of t5 and cfl :0...couldn't get anywhere near that with my current organicsoil mix the quickly...would have to veg for like 2 months


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815628 - 06/23/16 11:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Looks great cant wait to see the final harvest


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: ello619]
    #815635 - 06/23/16 11:30 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Cool yea I just ordered a few different bulbs just waiting on delivery couple cfls a different type of led throw em all at the wall and see what sticks lol I am leaning more to aeroponics so toxins in mineral salts and micro nutes are always gonna be an issue but they are also naturally occurring so I'm confident the plant knows what to do with them I think keeping a clean system will help as well

my buddy is working on an organic super soil that he wants me to try i may give it a go  in the next few months


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #815637 - 06/24/16 01:02 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Cool yea I just ordered a few different bulbs just waiting on delivery couple cfls a different type of led throw em all at the wall and see what sticks lol I am leaning more to aeroponics so toxins in mineral salts and micro nutes are always gonna be an issue but they are also naturally occurring so I'm confident the plant knows what to do with them I think keeping a clean system will help as well

my buddy is working on an organic super soil that he wants me to try i may give it a go  in the next few months




Thats basically what I do, mix an organic, "just add ph neutral water" mix, has multiple sources of composting organic materials and quite he list of beneficial bacteria, mycorhyzal fungi, ectomycorhyzal fungi, and archaea, has bone, blood, and feather meal, sulfate of potash, and composted poultry manure as well as a few different grain flours to feed the fungi. Mixed with coir, fresh compost and perlite (perlite is hugely important, without it I would have constant root rot problems in this mix, oxygen in some amount at least HAS to get to the root zone or slowly anaerobic bacteria will take over and poison your plant with hydrogen sulfid, which is basically farts) Works a charm, and no worries about over nuting, undernuting, or ph issues since the soil ecosystem holds ph stable for you where they deem their host plant prefers it. The actual full list of material for the soil is quite long and I dont remember it all atm. (Isnt as complicated as it seems, is basically assembled from pre made/mixed ingredients that came from home depot xD) my plants basically grow from a natural, fully formed, soil ecosystem.

My yeilds are on average only about 2/3 what they where when I was running chemical fertilizer, but man they just look so much healthier and happier, even the green chlorophyl itself seems to be almost a different shade when done organically. I trust the fungus lol.

and metals are really only an issue if you , mae it one, very few people are sensitive to the metals gh is high in, I still just like to use organics when I can. They often have as much or more but I kinda agree, the plants know what to do

Pic of the Lanky Queen because why not? When your this sexy you deserve some glamour shots :wink:  37 days into 12/12....probably 3-4 weeks left

Actually ditched the t5 yesterday and added some more 42 wTt cfl's to make up for it. The fatass is too uneven a canopy this round, had to make a compromise do to my lack of training her before flower, didnt want to back the lights off the lanky queen anymore than I already had.









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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815717 - 06/24/16 09:17 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Had some INTENSE storms last night, almost two inches of rain in two hours.

Outdoor queen handled it fine, just a bit droopy from all the excess water, got a good fresh layer of loam deposited from the creek near by though :cool: so next couple weeks of nutes done once i rake a bit of it down into the weeds and shit around her base, they will grow back in and cover it within 48 hours here and all trace of any raking will be gone :lol:





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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815721 - 06/24/16 09:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

lol like where's Waldo

yea I only tried the incandescents cause it was 50 cents a bulb I had to try it but way too hot for the light you get I love the photos under cfl they look worlds better than hps


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #815722 - 06/24/16 10:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

there is a quarter mile of briars, blackberries, and sticker bushes in all directions around it, and once your more than 20 feet away you cant even see it, like, at all, if you dont want to go through those you have to go through my house out to the back yard and walk 3/4 a mile off property to find it :lol: im gettin a good workout checking in on her, is the edge of a 20x20 foot clearing way off in nowhere lol. Is also black bear territory and i carry a few cans of bear mace with me...you wan this plant?....good luck!!! lololololol, we're classed deciduous rainforest! better bring a machete'!

and a few of my cfls in there are 3500k and one is 6500k, rest are 2700...so its a nice even color for guaging color of foliage and things like that.

a lot of HPS growers will take pics with flash within the first minute or two after lights out. the logic there is almost every single plant outside sees a few hundred lightning strikes at night before harvest and they do fine. could also keep a couple cfls rigged up to flip on for a minute to turn off the HPS to get some proper pics/

On the subject of light leaks and light during dark cycle... I also have never been able to stress a hermie from small and changing light leaks contrary to popular belief....

a long time ago, before all the light pollution you could actually see every single visable from earth star at night from all surfaces on the planet, and the moon in Full was about 25% brighter...and sometimes was behind clouds, sometimes wasnt, would look like it dances around place to place because of this, and some nights its never seen at all...

when someone tells me minor* light leaks and inconsistencies cause hermie i cant help but laugh a little on the inside.:lol: My flower box is just a cupboard i close during night cycle, has a few leaks here and there, but is always at least as dark as a full moon night....this is ALL you need...i have NO problems with hermies. when i do its always been when running fem seed or fighting spider mites :wink: i have even sat in the darkness with the box open and my computer screen pointing the opposite direction of the box, once my eyes adjust im able to clearly watch them as they sleep under the dim background glow of my labtop, i love doing this when im working a third shift schedule because i never get to chill with them during lights on...the difference between day and night is more than dramatic enough that ive never had an issue doing this.


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815724 - 06/24/16 10:37 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I get what your saying and agree for the most part but on the other hand I feel that if a plant was grown in a certain light system and there are massive abrupt changes in lighting it most definitely can effect the plant growth photosensitivity some is different with all kinds of plants so strains and phenotypes could have easily bred these traits in to a plant causing some to be more sensitive to light variation than others a long time ago we were not breeding and manipulating the ecosystem like we are now...

my light leaks issue was referring to troubleshoot my buds not stacking and seeming to grow more vegetation then work on the buds theoretically light inconsistency could cause a plant to stall flower growth and raise vegetation growth in any case I was ruling that out as a cause so it's either nutes or light distribution causing my buds not to stack up most likely nutes though...


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #815729 - 06/25/16 12:14 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

changes in photoperiod most definitely can cause herms, that most definitely doesnt exist in nature, (although ive never noticed a problem with changing light intensities, on your average partly cloudy day my plant will see that happen for two or three minutes every 20 or so, and the last 36 hours have been largely cloudy. i was mainly saying light leaks and changes in small amounts of light and intensity as long as it never falls TOO low are very very unlikely to cause problems in my experience. a lot of growers stress it like mad and go nuts with light leak prevention and duct tape because they think that is whats causing their herms, not their carelessly produced fem seed.


and id say too much vegetation, slow flowering, dark shiny greens, and those slight hooked leaf tips are more likely too much abundant n2 through flower than light leaks... (i guarantee the half moon to half moon over the full moon cycle which lasts for two weeks is brighter than whatever light leaks your getting if you have tried to keep it dark at all) especially if growing in hydro or soiless mediums, i had to watch nitrogen and PH when doing hydro like a hawk ( a ph swing can even cause uptake of too much n2 in relation to other minerals, in flower very little to none is really required, they can usually manufacture most the n2 they need when in hydro under plenty of light. (in veg, excess n2 is usually a good thing however since you want all that foliage development)

heres something you may have already seen, it's a good ph chart and what nutrients are best uptaken at what ph when in a hydroponic and soiless environment, if you havn't seen it its very useful, i kept it pprinted out and laminated above my closes when i was doing DWC :lol: obviously in flower you want a MUCH higher PK ratio in relation to N, i go from 5-4-6 (i think) in veg to 2-7-4 in flower in my current soil, and it looks like my lanky pheno wouldnt have really needed any nitrogen during flower for the most part. chart there for any soil medium (any medium with a biological root buffer basically) growers that may come across this journal and find it useful as well.



not trying to "school" you or anything, just trying to help with what information i have lol


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815752 - 06/25/16 12:06 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Managed to snap a few shots of the lanky Queen with a flash in the few seconds before lights came on this morning...she a true beauty!!!!! Even if she's small and only gonna yeild like 16 grams :3 expecting realistically anywhere between 12-14 grams from a lanky queen this small....

this first pic is literally the SMALLES top nug on the plant, is just up front and easy to get pics of lol. ones behind is are easily twice the size. Shes gonna be a nice, skunky sativa dom day smoke :cool:







Lights came on before i got to fatass, shes frosting up nicely now, but she still has too much foliage to focus in on the buds, sadly probably no good porn of her till final week/harvest xD...expecting probably only 12-14 grams from her thanks to my errors in mixing the nutrients for the soil. roots organics Buddha Bloom to the rescue!!! IF is similar to last clone of her, she is an UBER couchlock :cool: Sadly i should have been able to yeild at least 3 quarters (21) off a fatass clone this size, oh well, we all make mistakes some times lol



you can see a bit of the trichome production in this pic, but she doesnt like to frost over her fan leaves and it always makes it hard to get good bud porn from her, cameras dont like to focus up close with her.



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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815775 - 06/25/16 05:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Everyone loves porn!!!

Outdoor queen is growing like a weed, an inch or more a day....pun intended, starting to look a lot like an intermediary pheno between the fatass and lanky, still regretting not taking clones.













For some reason I feel , like shes gonna be some suuuuuuper dank smoke :cool:



And heres my first lighter nug shots that everyone hates doing this long before the final swell...still 3 weeks+ left to go ...not gonna be bad at all for a 13" plant primarily cfl run...i may keep the lanky queen around yet. Just wish she didnt stretch at the flip so much, had to lolipop quite a bit of her.



Still quite sad I fucked up Fatass' nutes...she should be easily twice this fat by now...I know this clone as quite a good yeilder for a 7 week strain :frown:



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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815782 - 06/25/16 08:15 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

ain't nothing wrong with mad pics swollen or not lol they look happy nah I don't think yourl trying to school me I'm always receptive to an experienced point of view I like playing Devils advocate it helps me view things in a different light.. pun also intended

I have a feeling my main just wants to grow all funky she looks like she just wants to explode with a bunch of smaller buds instead of condensing in to one nice top cola my nitrogen is onot the really low side already according to the GH chart it's at 5ml to 2.5 gal instead of the 1 gal it's supposed to be I had the same idea so I've been backing off the nitrogen before I flushed she is even showing Nitrogen Deficiency my ph is pretty stable 6.5 to 6.7 I feed once a week and fill the res with water the rest of the week and ph stays pretty much the same...
this just popped in my head but I just realized I do have alot of co2 production going on in my tent I haven't done alot of research on co2 effects but it's the only thing left to trouble shoot unless it really is my lady is being really sassy and just wars to keep growing lol looking at all the bucha and mush cults I mahalo be over doing it...


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #815786 - 06/25/16 09:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I wouldnt go over ph 6.2 in hydo ever for cannabis. Higher starts to lock out micro nutes and ALL manganese and iron...just my two cents there lol, I always raised it from 5.5 to 6 even during flower. if you lockout manganese and iron your phosphorus uptake will drop making your n2 raise in relation to the other essential nutrients for flowering. pay very very close attention to that diagram, itll save you many runs of hair pulling, keep in 5.5 to 6 if possible in hydro or completely inert mediums running chemical nutrients. below 5.5 and youll end up with schorched leaves and heavy metal build ups.

Throwing in 7 more afghani queen beans, first four to pop make the cut, out of those hoping for two new female phenos to mess with, maybe make another mother plant. This plate will be tossed on my cable box in the living room, will keep it at about 85-90 F. Most the beans will usually pop within 36 hours. the ones that dont sadly get the cut, i have WAY too many of these seeds to bother with the slow ones. Years from now i will probably still be poppin some afghani queens for nostalgia, gonna store em in the freezer and pass em down as my "first homemade cross" xD  Maybe ill stabilize it and make it available at some point who knows.





Mixed the same soil as last time making DAMN sure I got the full dose of nutes, and all the garins, minerals, and ash id need and whatnot. Only difference this time is I increased perlite content by 50% so I can get more than two waterings a week in




And I dont think sensimilla plants are EVER happy, the reason theyre so dank is because we grow them under MAJOR Sexual tension, most die virgins xD

And heres a candid upskirt of the same lanky queen clone Im running grown by a friend of mine, is under 3100k t5, GH Flora Nova series in coco/perlite. Is 8 days in flower ahead of mine. He didnt send me a pic of the whole thing, is about twice the size of mine xD vegged for 6 weeksish I think



looks good you say?

well this is the SAME lanky queen clone flowering under purely 6500k t5 two weeks from finishing, same point as my buddies clone cut, and this is why i prefer 6500k t5 to 2700k, shorter fatter hairs, smaller denser buds, same long skinny fan leaves, but still those are more compact as well, even the vein spacing in the leaves is narrower, bud leaveas are a bit shorter and fatter like the hairs, like its trying to shield its calyxes a bit, but for whatever reason, that spectrum of florescent shoots the trichome production THROUGH THE ROOF, which also makes me think they are involved in some sort of defense mechanism, that and the fact when a gnat lands and eats a glandular trich it dies in a few seconds xD, i have a few a week i have to tweezer off a leaf. was also grown in a basement at the time that NEVER got above 75 day time, 68 night time, may be a factor as well

feel free to blow the image up and notice there are many areas where trichs are stacked standing room only :cool:



OVERALL YEILD IN CONCENTRATE PER PRODUCTION DOES NOT CHANGE, OFTEN GOES UP, effectively implying ounce for ounce MUCH higher potency in the ratio of goody amount to basic plant matter



So far this grow I have learned:

1. Use bigger pots in relation to the size of the plant when trying to grow smaller plants...that ratio does NOT scale evenly xD

2. My Fatass needs more food than what I gave it this round lolololololol

Looking at my results with the lanky so far, I think im gonna have it nailed next time. Same mix as lanky, bigger pot, 50% more perlite. not worried about this making it overdose in nutes, the sybiotic ecosystem IF functioning properly should feed the plant exactly what it needs, when it needs it, i think thats the super soil theory anyway. will be doubling pot size to compensate for the extra space taken by inert medium.


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815880 - 06/27/16 09:26 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

100% popped in 36 hrs :cool: more effortless awesomeness :rockon:



Four fastest planted, will be going under t5 on 18/6 soon as they break ground



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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #815915 - 06/28/16 11:47 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

More indoor porn....having issues with editing last post so sorry for triple posting, cant do anything about it atm.

Lanky Queen...Day 41 of 12/12...probably 36ish days of actual flowering.t






Fatass Queen....Day 41 of 12/12. Shes FINALLY starting to become a little more photogenic,  ut I fu ked her mix BAD this round, bud density, size, and teich peoduction suffered, I know what the fatass clone can do, and this AINT it. She should be noticebly fatter than lanky at this point, not noticeablt smaller...she will make some decent hash in the end most likely. Shes healthy but obviously i havn't given her the resources she needs to be all she can lol, shes probably gonna get the cut early in the next few days to make room for another clone to try again.



About to hit that part we all live for....the home stretch swell :cool: If I wasnt waiting on her seeds I would have already pulled her up and remixed her soil to replace her with another fatass clone...shes healthy, but coming along much slower than usual with far less resin.


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #816038 - 06/29/16 12:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Nice dude :super:


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Sloppy]
    #816040 - 06/29/16 12:41 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks Man!!!


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #816134 - 06/30/16 04:05 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

i cut the fatass down and turned her into hash last night over a few hours, want to add some light to the lanky i acutally nailed the mix on, and get another fatass clone into the box soon that i WONT ruin lolololol


no pics because they're just sad...once i get over the loss ill throw up some of the bud shots i took :lol:

one dqay soon ill edit them into this post


however the hash itself, color, taste, and potency are actually EXCELLENT for ISO, am not impressed with hash yield, not even close, but god DAMN the quality is WAY better than i expected for 2+ weeks early



Outdoor coming a long nicely









cant wait for her to finish, seems like i picked a good seed to pop this cross' outdoor cherry :lol: been doing 3-5 nodes on the big branch for a bit now, stem is almost a half inch thick, hoping for quite the impressive cola on that one :cool:


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #816345 - 07/03/16 12:19 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Cant wait....gettin FAT for ~105-110~ watts :wink: one of my best looking buds on a run of lanky yet somehow xD







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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #816356 - 07/03/16 01:20 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Nice :smile:

I put a cfl at the top of my ao lol... so she is getting light in all areas now maybe we will see some differences


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Nevar44]
    #816426 - 07/04/16 04:10 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

if she's right in the hps glow it wont really make much difference, although quite a few single light HID growers use cfl's to side light and light the plant from underneath the canopy because of how close you can get them to the plant. If yor AO's main cola has just outgrown the height of the light a bit that CFL shol help a ton as long as its at least 23 (non equivalent) watts. 26, 36, or 42 have the best lumen/watt ratio in CFL's though.

ive seen HID growers on the forums pull MASSIVE colas all the way down the plant when they've done this and not lolipopped the little suckers, its all a matter of keeping things cool i imgagine


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #816429 - 07/04/16 04:56 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Interesting

I think lollipopping is slightly different than what I was told to do

U don't wanna nessicarily cut off all the bottom sights..

U want to cut off any and all suckers. Suckers equal sights w small stems not popping and growing like the others. Wether they are down low or the branch or where ever they may be.

A lot if the times the entire lower branches end up being suckers in my experience so I'll cut them entirely. If the branch doesn't swell and create a thick branch that reaches the canopy..

I'm still learning and playing.

Ive never looked up lollipoping online... but I think it's taking all the bottom sights off...??? sometimes some of those bottom sights are nice sights..

I got a 26w 1700 lumen cfk, for the top of the AO. It's grown past the light and wasn't getting any light at all but now it is :smile:


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Nevar44]
    #816433 - 07/04/16 05:51 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

thats what i mean by lolipopping, waiting just long enough into flower to tell whats gonne blow up and what isnt, if you light from underneath with CFL's its safe to say MORE of the bud sites would take off. and obviously the more of the plant that takes off the heavier you can feed into flower

supplementing with a CFL is a good idea for anything that isnt getting too much direct light that you dont want to lolipop, lolipop is just the word i use for it because that was the common terminology for it when i started.

i even had one top i though was gonna be a main top get the cut about 3 weeks into 12/12 on the lanky, it just kinda stopped, was right at the edge of the main glow so i wasnt sure till then, anything that was not stretched into the main glow or hadnt done anything by then got snipped, leaving that stuff is a recipe for stress nanners where you dont want them. if those buds get pollinated theyll redirect lots of unwanted energy in that direction on the plant, away from the main glow of the light. they would have a good chance of being decent feminized beans, but would lose more yield than its worth, if you go the route of making fem beans is beast to just use a late flower bana from a strong plant and hit a calyx or two in the main cola of a strong plant not quite as far into flower. couple beans wont slow a large bud down at all.

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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #816468 - 07/05/16 01:38 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

First signs of late flower N2 lockout RIGHT on schedule.

Can confidently call 2-3 weeks now instead of just saying, eh, idk, maybe 3 weeks for the last 5 days :lol:

Day 48 of 12/12, 14-21 days left, solid 8-9 week strain, not counting the first week of 12/12 give or take, counting flowering time from first preflower.

Well aware i need to clean out my box, cant remove the plant atm to do so and is slowly getting worse :lol:


Gonna have to wait till lights out to get good pics of the Top nugs, they're washing out up close and i cant get good shots to show maturity of the tricks or calyxes.

But heres a pic of a couple BOTTOM  nugs to avoid washing out the photo, not quite as far along as the very tops but should give a good idea as to how far along. About 15% of the hairs have turned, and about 20-25% of the trichs have gone frosty, this bud is slightly farther behind though, not getting exposed to nearly as much light as the tops. As usuall, proves herself to be a solid 8-9 week strain.


i need to pop on ebay and get a USB microscope so i can show off REAL trich shots :lol:



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Seedlings doing nicely, one is growing ridiculously fast. and i lost one because of a zip tie at one end of my t5 that slipped, it burnt the edges of the first set of leaves, so that one i actually pulled, didnt feel like waiting on it to recover and i have plenty more of these seed saved.

I think this first one may start to present some hybrid vigor :cool: hoping she's a she.


Another fatass most likely


this one has interesting leaves, will most likily look completely normal in a day or two


And this one is no longer with us lol, pulled it this morning. didnt wanna wait for it to recover and get left behind




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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #816478 - 07/05/16 08:27 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Just realised i am now testing how resistant Lanky is to going hermaphrodite and revegging xD


Couple notches on the end of my light cycle timer on the night period were lifted up.......


she went to 13(d)/11(n) god only knows how many days ago, im always asleep when they kick on.

i corrected the error, and am now watching for bananas/symptoms of reveg. only noticed it because i repositioned where the timer was trying to do some box maintenance/cleaning

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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #816489 - 07/06/16 12:59 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

13/11 shouldn't cause a reveg at all.
Right many growers flower on that setting, and claim to yield more.


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Stoneth]
    #816505 - 07/06/16 12:46 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

well, was just worried about hermie mainly since shes got a lot of sativa in her, the days going from short to slightly longer back to short again, makes me wanna keep an eye out for some nanners. And my more sativa dom hybrids ive ran in the past (not this one specifically) have been far more willing to reveg than indica leaning hybrids.

not expecting revegging really once i thought about it, would have to keep slowly increasing day time length not one quick bump, dont think it was more than a few days since i bumped the timer last. just more or less keeping an eye out for some bare stamen to pop, i wanted to try and make a fem bean or two with my outdoor anyway :wink: Ive never seen a hermie in my cut of this lanky pheno, if i could stress a nanner or two i imagine would be excellent XX only pollen


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #816507 - 07/06/16 01:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yea watching for nanners is wise, better safe than sorry.:smile:
If feminized seeds are something you're interested in, look into STS and/or CS treatments.
Making seeds from a stressed hermie pollen is a good way to make more hermie seeds.


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Stoneth]
    #816508 - 07/06/16 01:14 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

making them from genetic hermie pollen is a good way of making hermie beans ime,and colloidal silver forces the exact same kind of bare stamen that forcing them through stress does, because either way you are still forcing them through stress.

when ive used genetic hermie pollen ive got hermies, when ive used stress induced bare stamen pollen, ive got about 80% give or take straight non hermie female, same rates as using colloidal silver,

only difference is i dont want to make an entire plant filled with  feminized beans like i would if i was trying to breed them to sell.

what i am doing is how you make just a couple feminized beans, without ruining the herb produced by either plant. im not trying to make 1000 seeds and have no herb to smoke. :blazed: have done this quite a few times, as long as you use a plant that wont hermie without being stress induced you seem to usually get XX pollen ime.

From what ive done in the past, THESE hermaphrodites (fully formed male flowers mixed in starting week 2-3 of flower) will make predominantly hermaphrodites as offspring



And these, non fully formed, bare, individual male stamen (genetic herms will have fully formed male flowers with 4-8 stamen per flower, hundreds per cluster sometimes), produced through stress or near the total end of a plants life cycle, or earlier through artificial means like colloidal silver, produce pretty much entirely female (XX) offspring with the very very rare genetic herm present, just like any other feminized seed, as long as you pollinate a genetically distinct female plant, and not the plant that produced the pollen, and ime, if you stress it or over ripen long enough, all females will do this....all of them, there are no exceptions especially if you let them over ripen long enough, it's just a fall back tactic to attempt to preserve their genetics through winter




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    #816509 - 07/06/16 01:32 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Personally I wouldn't use a hermie stressed or not, it's still a genetic hermie.
But if you've done it in the past and are happy with the results pay me no mind.:thumbup:


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Stoneth]
    #816510 - 07/06/16 01:40 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

but colloidal silver induced hermaphroditism is STILL stress induced herm, that's all im saying lol, there are no ways to make bananas without stressing the plant through introducing chemicals or altering their environment, if you go the chemical route you just make way more banas and get enough pollen for commercial production of feminized beans but the end herb of the treated plant is not consumable, i have no reason to want to do that

some do it naturally without stressing through introduction of chemicals, environment alteration, or being over ripened, (both kinds of hermaphrodite, whole flower herms always will, banana herms sometimes will) these i would not use to make fem beans for exactly the reason you are saying, but this is a plant me and my friends have never seen throw bananas or male flowers by the time it got to harvest in any of our runs, is quite stable, if i get a banana im running with it :thumbup:... not expecting one but it would be a cool thing for me to have considering i have a strong from seed new pheno from this cross going into flower outside

you dont have to introduce foreign chemicals to get fem beans, only if you want enough pollen to seed an entire plant or two to sell beans :lol: i have yet to find a plant that wont do it especially if over ripened, not one from probably over 100 genetics we've ran at this point, weve let dozen of plants over ripen a bit just for the added weight and the female pollen from the bananas, they ALL will do it eventually, so i just think its a last ditch effort survival tactic.

have not been disappointed with my results in the past, and thanks for the bumps!:blazed:


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #816515 - 07/06/16 03:40 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

See using chemicals isn't necessarily the same as stressing.
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One chemical bonding to another isn't stressing the plant. Not every reaction such as a loss of color in a plant and a slow down in growth are results of stress. Both plants use the same hormone to signal flowering just the female has a added hormone that tells it to make the flowers female. The sts or cs bonds to that hormone and makes it unusable to the plant.

Female flowers that are caused by stress are generaly gonna be hermmie as in the flowers and the seeds coming from them. There is a major difference between plants that are stressed into giving male flowers and those that are treated to do it.


If you get the ppm right for your strain when using cs or sts you will notice no color change or slowdown in growth. I use to do that but it's a pain in the ass so I use a general mix not that is on the stronger side. As long as the percentage rate of hermies in my feminized seeds stays the same as regular seeds I'm fine with it. :happyweed:



From an old discussion. https://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/522124#522124

Yea, you're method will work, but hermie numbers are lower when done with CS or STS.


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Stoneth]
    #816516 - 07/06/16 04:13 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

i can see that for sure, the ones i make generally dont throw nanners unless stressed in abnormal conditions specifically over ripening, but i can more than see why that could be passed on, just like using ones that throw nanners before they over ripen is something that *could* be passed on.

i just dont like losing all that bud :blazed: and weve had pretty good results so far as were choosy over the clones we use pollen from, and i dont want to consume any of the chemicals used to do it. well aware that cs becomes a new chemical when it binds to copper, but id still prefer to avoid something that can pass through blood brain barriers and whatnot. and the reason over ripening them is a good way is because the stop uptaking the metals they use to produce flowering hormones that late into flower because they cant metabolise it, and the flower begins to revert towards intersexual flower production as a result, complete lack of those hormones means production of male flowers, is just what happens when the right metals and minerals for female flower production are no linger present in a living sexually mature plant, and lockout of these metals and minerals late in flower it 100% to be expected for any plant if taken long enough past "perfect" as i am sure you are already fully aware. But its the EXACT same biological process that introducing CS stimulates, just at a much slower rate. resulting in only a couple bananas instead of a plant filled with them. using a chemical to stimulate that process doesn't somehow make it different.

we generally just use male pollen then weed the males from the seed as we grow them, thats how the mother of the lanky and the outdoor came along lol. were non fem seed. but when we have done tis our results were fantastic, we wouldn't sell any of the seed made this way bulk, its pretty much for our own grows, but if done right it works fine. Is just a very poor choice for making fem seeds in bulk. and even if using CS isn't technically  stress hermie, it's mimicking whats going on in the biology of them on a micro scale.... semantics aside imo thats still stress induced when your just mimicking the biology present in an over ripened plant. when you stress a plant into hermaphroditism that otherwise wouldn't have done it, you aren't somehow adding to or subtracting from the genome of the plant in any way introducing CS would or wouldn't. we're just dealing with chemical reactions and hormones on this level, not anything to do with the genome of the plant.

another quote from that thread in response to being asked how to make female pollen:
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coda (also a trusted cultivator) said:
Stress the plant out to produce male flowers on a female plant.  Only way to make fem seeds.




not been here long, have no idea how these views stack up with one another "politically" here, ive just done it this way many times, as have my friends locally, never had issues, but assuming Coda thought about this for a bit before making the statement and was coming at it from a similar standpoint to me it was entirely accurate from my point of view on the subject.


If over ripening for bananas is stress induced, then so it CS..... if CS is NOT stress induced, than neither is over ripening....same exact biological process, just on separate scale of time and efficiency.


thanks for the link and the 13/11 info btw Stoneth! steered me towards quite a few interesting things to read and thoughts to pursue! :smile: and as always much love for stopping by my grow log!:heart: forgive me if , I come across as condescending, just sharing how Ive come to understand the subject.


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The queen's been putting on a few these days :cool: am quite pleased for what is now 125ish watts from a non-single source :lol:




seedlings taking off nicely :cool: one in the middle is getting quite hefty for a week old from seed.



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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #816613 - 07/08/16 04:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

last update till harvest for the lanky queen, probably 10-14 days left to where i want her :laugh:

three fattest tops: The Skunk Be strong in the Lanky, probably 9 weeks or a little more under pure CFL to harvest, just hit a little bit past 8 weeks of flower i believe. probably gonna let her go total close to 10

noticing some fresh foxtailing starting, thinking it has something do do with those 3-4 days she went back to 13/11,  not the biggest fan of foxtailing, means a harder trim job and extra twigs in the bud, definitely something to do with that change in light cycle though, this clone usually doesn't do that and its only foxtailing on a few tops, less than half actually.













Outdoor queen is currently in the process of exploding as well :cool: Lookin like shes gonna cola up nicely :awesome:









Fat top gonna be FAT lol



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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #816688 - 07/09/16 04:51 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

the Afghani Queen babies looking fantastic :cool:

9 days old from seed first breaking ground. breaking ground on July 1st will help me keep track of ages a bit better. dont usually write anything down lol, looking at them they could use a little more N2 but ill get on that at first transplant :lol:



feel free to notice the wallpaper behind them :lol:, gonna have my t5 box back up and going with both fixtures soon to get 6 plants going again.

just ordered a few new genetics, maybe ill find something to mix into my F1 idk yet:

another Royal Queen, Special kush #1 x5 seeds, feminized, hopefully will be just as impressive as my other Royal Queen purchases, but is their cheapest strain and only marketed at 16% thc so we'll see

Paradise Seeds Dutch Kush x5 seeds, feminized(Amsterdam Cannabis cup 2016 "Best in class Kush")

And getting a Delicious Seeds "Candy" as a freebie, gonna pop it for the hell of it since i only got one.

2 Paradise Seeds Pakistan Valley Feminized as freebies too

5 more Seedsman Original Afghani regular as freebie as well, the seedbank i use has had them on freebie for like a year or more lol. is where all of my seedsman afghani came from...freebies :lol: The male i used for my F1 was a freebie lol.

They will often send you more freebies than you payed for in packaged seed.


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    #816710 - 07/09/16 11:20 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

nice little ones look very happy


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #816720 - 07/10/16 01:59 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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nice little ones look very happy




And now you know what your expecting :awesome:

they grow ridiculously fast. The third baby without any signs of hybrid vigor is still working on his second leaf set, probably gonna gift it to a friend once i get it topped and looking like something significant, is ten days old in this photo like the others:



The two big babies, 10 days from seed, both just got topped at third leaf-set early this morning, already seeing signs of the internodal growth picking up to replace the center stem on the bigger lankier one on the left :laugh:







the one on the left in first pic has some LOOOOOONG leaf stems lol, a lot lkike my lanky phenotype clone, but leaves fingers are noticeably fatter than the lanky's were as a pip squeak


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #816737 - 07/11/16 12:38 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

gave these afghani queens to my clone mother harboring partner in crime, hes gonna complete their run to try and get a good mother assuming the female pheno or two turns out to be a good keeper.

i will be germinating a couple more afghani queens in tandem with the new genetics i ordered. Will probably be starting a fem Dutch Kush, a fem Special Kush #1, The candy freebie fem (looks awesome on paper), a couple afghani queens(4 regular sexed to 2 female), and the two seedsman afghani (hopefully sexed down to 2 female) we never kept a female mother of any of the seedsman afghani freebies and all of them have been great.

gonna have a nice box of indica dominant goodness to come a month or two after the outdoor comes down.

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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #816781 - 07/12/16 04:09 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

soooo, i lied, heres some more pics.

Gonna let her go another week or so and then shes going to get the cut just in time to be in jar for my Mother's Birthday :laugh: (July 27th)

a couple of these tops have blown my mind in their size and density for just over 100 watts of CFL...am very pleased for the effort (which was basically none)

i may not hit a full 3 quarters (21 grams) but am expecting more than a half ounce, would be different if she wasn't over vegged early on and root bound through most of flower :/





ill get some trich shots in a bit, about 50% milky trichs, 50% clear, but i DID find 3 or 4 amber mixed in a little deeper into the nugs. Sadly all i have to look at trichs is an led jewler's loupe, but i ordered a USB microscope from eBay a couple days ago, should easilybe here before the cut to get some pre-harvest trich shots :laugh:

should be right on schedule for 100% milky about a week from now, and thats about exactly where i want her, mostly milky, a couple amber here and there :cool:


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #816797 - 07/12/16 11:25 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I lied again xD

took the smallest top for a week early sample, should have it dry and in jar for a couple days before the rest comes down... the node below the top nug got pulled about a week ago for another sample, this entire branch didnt have enough light anyway, was dwarfed by all the other tops. i just left it really knowing full well it was gonna be an early pulled sample branch.


got impatient, couldnt wait :lol: The bud had an EXCELLENT bud to leaf ratio though.

probably gonna be about a gram dry :lol: hoping it'll fill paper or a couple bowls nicely to toke on while im harvesting the rest next week lol.

this plant is probably gonna get jarred up and gifted to mom on her birthday :heart: timing for it is perfect and it wont be much more than 14-18 grams probably in total including this little nuglet, she never buys high grade weed only regs so she's going to be excited :cool: was just a run for the hell of it anyway while my t5 closet was out of commission which is now over as well, going to be reassembling the whole setup soon.







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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #816891 - 07/15/16 03:38 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

lied yet again....i cut down about 3/4 of the plant as i am completely dry, trichs sat about 80% ish cloudy with a very rare amber and a few clear here and there, she had less than a week left to where i prefer her though, so probably lost an eighth or so in overall end-yield





And 12 hours or so into drying the wet weight sits at 53.7 grams, was 69.5 when it first came down late last night, gonna be somewhere around a half ounce dry. 12-15 grams ish...still got a full sized branch left on the plant as well. sorry for shitty picture, couldnt get the screen to show up, it doesnt work at all with the backlight off :lol:  its old, still waiting on the nes 2 decimal scale and the USB microscope from ebay....gotta love ordering shit from China....



Smell is WAY different than other soils ive run this clone in, is usueally quite citrusy and sweet this clone, but outta this soil mix is very skunky/earthy/spicey, almost like burnt rubber kinda, just way more pleasant :cool: cant wait to pack a bowl of her and ty her out in the whip :laugh:







My first new genetic seeds came in from a friend out west today, 5 feminized MTG Pineapple Purple Skunk seeds, was sent as a surprise, had NO clue what the strain was until i opened the pack, THANKS MAN! YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!!!!



and very excited about this,is the first true purple strain ive had the pleasure of running in YEARS!!!! and is bred from one of my favorite genepools :3


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    #816898 - 07/15/16 05:19 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Mmmmmm, I love pineapples

Never had that one tho


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    #816899 - 07/15/16 05:24 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Mmmmmm, I love pineapples

Never had that one tho





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I love this guy right now

This is my first time getting ahold of Domestic breeder seeds outside of ones i bred myself :3 (not that i consider myself a breeder, far from it, im just a fan of free seeds when i can make them confdently)

i'm giddy like a school-girl

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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #817051 - 07/18/16 08:48 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Outdoor queen is doing fantastic so far.. been a bit since i updated on her, i had to watch her like a hawk for a bit....


about a week ago a very strong storm came through while she was tied down and i was away, it had insanely bad straight line winds, her main stem split right down the middle... and i didnt get to it in time to repair the two sections back together and there were already bugs eating the plant's spongey pith, so reattaching the two hemispheres together was a no go. here how i fixed it (so far anyway)

undid the LST for that branch, used a CLEAN razor blade and removed any and all already dead pith and tissue from the split section, i then covered what tissue was left exposed inside the split with cinnamon (helps non repairable wounds callus over way faster and keeps insects from trying to eat the delicate interior tissues) and let it sit for a couple days with some twisted electrical tape about 6 inches above the wound holding the two branches in a solid position, and a bit of plastic positioned over the wound to keep any possible rain off of it..

the plant is continuing to grow and the split isn't showing any signs of infection or rot, and in about another week ill remove the plastic piece keeping rain off, ass exposes tissue sections inside the split will callus over, then scab up and fuse back together with scar tissue :cool:




The plant is continuing to grow like nothing happened, no signs of stalling whatsoever, the wound isnt severe enough to cause any fluid flow or transpiration issues apparently

Yes i have noticed the couple areas of powdery mildew and also the insect damage, is being combated by Lecithin and Pyrethrum, seems to be working quite well so far, the mildew has dried and is NOT spreading, and have seen no signs of fresh mite damage in days. spreading some diatomaceous earth around the base sometime soon, just got go pick some up somewhere :lol: i DID use a little bit of sulfur as well, but will NOT use any more once it gets farther into flower, sulfur solutions just tend to stop mildew dead in its tracks almost overnight, the smell and taste should absolutely not linger for more than a few days, should be totally gone by harvest, have done this many times before. tends to cause massive problems if used once the buds are stacking though, and your end product will smell and taste absolutely disgusting if used too late.

am also aware the two tall tops on the left are a little too close to each other, sadly is a temporary necessity while repairing the stem split, gonna use a rock to hold the base of the stem solid and re LST that branch a few inches away from that center top as soon as the wound has completely healed :laugh:






And this was the top that went into the dirt when the stalk split during the storm....no worse for wear, still growing strong.


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #817079 - 07/19/16 03:16 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Found my phone so i finally uploaded the couple harvest shots i took, thought i took more than two...


oh well, here they are






Isnt to bad of a smoke at all, i kept the bottom nugs and thats all ive smoked, rest got gifted once jarred up to my mom, the top buds were right at 8 grams dry, the small collection of bottom nugs i kept was right around 5 grams dry, but ive smoked about a gram of it so far.

Left this top on the plant though just to see what it will do :lol: will probably be another 4-5 grams if i let it over ripen enough, may be a bit more stoney than i want it but i want that weight, pulling early because your dry.....

sucks :lol: it actually only stalled for about a day then went right back on into fattening and finishing ripening up.





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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #817125 - 07/20/16 10:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Pulled the last top, trichs said she was right where i wanted her, least ill get try smoke some ripe nugs from this one lol








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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #817163 - 07/21/16 07:20 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

The one Afghani Queen i kept has been abused greatly the last week, had no airflow and temps in the mid 80's to mid 90's....just got the fan hooked mounted back to the wall so im considering it a heat stress/drought stress test :lol:


Some of the older fan leaves were stressed and damaged a bit, but the new growth looks fantastic, hoping she is in fact a she. Just got tansplanted into a larger pot yesterday.






And so far, the Fem Dutch Kush, the Fem Special Kush #1, and both Seedsman Afghani i had in to pop have popped and been planted. The fem cheese candy and the 3 Pineapple Purple skunk still left to pop.



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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #817206 - 07/22/16 04:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Nice nugs, bro. They turned out beautifully.


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    #817235 - 07/23/16 02:53 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

thanks! coulda been a lot nicer though, had i waited till i pulled the last top to pull the entire thing.

oh well, still great smoke :blazed:


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    #817343 - 07/25/16 12:51 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

What's popped so far

Special Kush #1



Cheese Candy



Dutch Kush




Afghani queen baby around 3 weeks old give or take a few days, this was originally the smaller of the 3, ill have to go get pics of the others next time im at a certain friend's place, they are still quite a bit bigger than this one for their age.

This one is still going to be a wild plant to control in such a small setup...this cross makes fucking HUGE plants for the age. Hybrid Vigor ftw. I've even done some defoliating to try and slow it down a bitso my fems could catch up a bit....

Aint gonna happen :lol: as usual this thing is exploding :laugh: (good problem to have)





Definitely looking like yet another variant of my fatass, about 75% or so of the seed turns out VERY similar to this one










Also have a 3x pack of Dr.Krippling's Incredible Bulk (700-1000 grm/meter2)

and another 3x pack of RQS Special Queen #1 (definitely one of the best sub 9 week flowering skunks on the market, imo at least)


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    #817409 - 07/27/16 12:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Just for a re-cap

Afghani queen day 9 (the one i kept is the small one from the far left in this pic)







And now the update...

Afghani Queen day 26 :cool: Lst and clones tomorrow, into flower in a few days :laugh:, already know sex, is female, preflowered day before yesterday, just not large enough for pics yet, in due time.

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    #817513 - 07/28/16 04:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

All indoor plants are under the t5 at 18/6 now

plant stand lowered, not usually that far from the lights.

Plants from left to right

3 Pineapple Purple skunk regular, 1 day above soil
1 Dutch Kush fem
1 Special Kush #1 fem
1 Cheese Candy fem all 4 days above soil i think
1 Afghani Queen 28 days old, regular, but already shown fem preflowers


Group shot under 1 of 2 t5's, this one is just 156 watts+a couple 23 watt 2100k cfl's



the kushes and the cheese



The Purp Skunks





thinking this will be the first clone of her. Has a couple shoots down low to replace the cutting with two more tops so... is a top coming from the first true leaf node, isnt getting nearly as much light as it should be getting, and she has already grown bigger than i wanted for the age, so im just going to up pot her one more time soon and keep a from seed mother, im REALLY liking the looks of this one :cool: Preflowered female early, and a VERY vigorous grower.





This is how the plant stand (made from an old barber shop hydraulic chair) would normally sit atm




And might as well throw up a pic of the breeder packaging, i see a lot of people on other forums doing that so why not :lol:



The rest of my seedbank genetics should arrive within the week :cool: xant wait to see what kind of plants i end up with, really hoping for a nice, strong, solid, Purp Skunk male :laugh:


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    #817589 - 07/31/16 04:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Did some light defoliating on the clone mother'smain tops, the shoots are about to unfold their own fan leaves so i cleaned her up a bit to let the lower shoots get better light, she is going to be another cone mother after all, not as interested in making budsites as i am in making sure i have as many shoots to take cuttings from as possible when the time comes. this plant is SUPER fast, id like to fill an entire box with her :laugh:



This one has some HUGELY indica dominant traits to her...smell is already ridiculous lol



Dutch Kush - Back left
Special Kush #1 - back right
Cheese Candy - front middle



And Pineapple Purple Skunk....these might just be the SLOWEST plants ive ever popped to date...painfully slow lol, the two kushes and the cheese candy were popped at the same time :lol: i'm thinking they may just not be liking the soil mix as much as my others. they do have a bit more sativa in them then what i usually run.


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #817592 - 07/31/16 06:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Those painfully slow seeds look like some I've cracked and had problems with... they take forever to snap outta it if they ever do

Old seeds or improperly stored seeds is best thing I've thought so far

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    #817593 - 07/31/16 07:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

had the same thought, maybe old or had been exposed to moisture and re-dried in the past perhaps, but i REALLY want to try and pull something from this strain, i badly want a decent male of it :wink:

if they dont snap out of it in a couple weeks im just gonna toss them and pop some afghani queen in their place lol


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    #817621 - 08/01/16 10:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

growth on 2/3 of the pineapple purple skunks is picking up a bit, but still very slow.

At this point, not only the slowest, but also the ugliest seedlings ive ever had, cant wait to see what they look like if/when some non deformed growth comes in





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    #817680 - 08/03/16 06:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Outdoor queen has seen better days for sure, need to get some more pyrithrens into her, got a bit of insect damage, nothing even close to life threatening though.

This was my first visit to her in a week or so, have been really busy, made the treck out to give her a few gallons of water and compost teas.

Buds starting to stack early....am excited, one branch is crested as well (fasciation),,,yes i said crested, same genetic anomoly we all know and love in our cacti :laugh: will be more obvious when she gets farther into flower but one branch is crested for SURE, flat polyploid stem and all.















The best close up of a lower nug, trichome production is more than pleasing to me for this early on, im sure whatever i end up with will be more than fine smoke :blazed:


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #817691 - 08/03/16 11:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

ohhhh love that early sugar!


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #817722 - 08/04/16 06:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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ohhhh love that early sugar!





as do i, generally speaking, it implies super thick frost coverage later on :laugh:


INdoor babies doing fantastic, as is the older Queen a few weeks into veg

Back: Special Kush #1
Front left: Dutch Kush
Front Right: Cheese Candy

(although looking at them, i feel i may have labeled the cheese candy and the special Kush backwards :lol: )




Pineapple Purple Skunks....still super slow, still incredibly ugly :lol: Plant material LOOKS otherwise healthy, just super deformed, im thinking Nevarr is correct, the seeds were probably VERY old




Afghani Queen mom to be....such a fast vigorous plant, intending on her being a from seed clone mother for a while, once im done running her im planning on using her as a stable mom to breed with and try to maintain the hybrid vigor this cross expresses so strongly









The closet as it sits now...




And some more seeds in to pop

Afghani #1 after 16 hours on the towel being incubated:


The Incredible Bulk after 16 hours incubated ona wet towel, already impressive as fuck and it isnt even a vegging plant yet :laugh:


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #817858 - 08/07/16 08:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Left to right:

Special Kush #1 Fem, Dutch Kush Fem, Cheese Candy Fem... This photo is a perfect example of why i love Royal Queen Seeds so much, and why i am surprised more people dont use them :wink:...i have nothing to do with the company, just have been very impressed with every single bean ive ever received from them.

Anyone else ive shared my Afhani Queens with, they share 1/4 of their genepool with this special kush, and it shows, the resemblance is there for SURE


And two non fem pineapple purple skunks, lost one already, if these dont take off in the next week im culling them....sad sad looking seedlings....shitty is a better word. in the EXACT soil mix the fems and my afghani queen are in



The Incredible Bulk 24 hours after popping above soil, expecting it to surpass the pineapple purple skunks within 3 days



And last, bt sure as hellnot least, my 38 day old Afghani queen mother plant... thing is an absolute BEAST, about to have to transplant and cut off the nutrients and get her under my t8 fixtured to slow her down....doubt itll work :lol:






Also popped some REGULAR Super Silver Haze strain recreation seeds (far from spot on recreation, but close, used the same strains) from a friend out west, have popped a couple before, are a Haze #1 x Skunk #1 x Northern Lights F1, probably closer to Mr. Nice's SSH than Greehouse Seed's



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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #817892 - 08/08/16 08:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Commencing back to front read of thread...
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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Hashed]
    #817943 - 08/09/16 10:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

u languaged gewd there sir!

thanks for stopping by and for the bumpp!


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #817947 - 08/09/16 11:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

No doubt bro.
Said back to front read of thread had been commenced when I posted that, I'm now up to date.


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    #817950 - 08/09/16 11:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

welcome to the only real addiction that cannabis could ever actually offer you :rockon:


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #817956 - 08/09/16 11:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Word brother!
Already hooked!
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    #818008 - 08/11/16 01:02 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

SSH day 2 from seed (1/3 got eaten by a mouse or bug of some kind, layed down some traps xD)






and my afghani Queen day 40 from seed, showing some signs of nitrogen deficiency, gonna transplant and up the veg nutirents in the mix she goes in to, i dont usually veg for this long, going to break her down into clones in the near future









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    #818057 - 08/12/16 02:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Awesomeness bro!!!!! :ganja:


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Hashed]
    #818142 - 08/14/16 05:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

coming along nicely, gave another dose of pyrethrins for the pests.

a bit of spider mite damage down low, never got to the point of webs. havn't seen any black eggs or live mites in almost a week, been treating twice a week with pyrethrins, will stop about a week before harvest and the buds are going to get a diluted peroxide bath before hanging up to dry to help remove any un-oxidised residue and possible fungus/fungal spores.

had some inch worms come through, but haven't seen any the last week either, newest bud growth and newest water leaves are nice and healthy, unmarked

have removed maybe a gram wet of buds that showed a few grey calyxes for fear of bud rot spreading. looked to be fairly old though, probably from the week of storms we had before this drought kicked in :lol:

has been very dry recently, so some yellowing down low, she received a few gallons of water and a healthy dose of teas right before i snapped the photos

















Lookin like a mid september plant so far, so not going to have any color, and will be a bit fluffy from the heat, but looks like she will be pretty good smoke to me. Definitely could have used a milder more consistent growing season, but you take what you get outdoors :lol:


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    #818146 - 08/14/16 06:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Nice one brother!


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Hashed]
    #818151 - 08/15/16 12:38 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Just received word from my partner in crime the lanky queen clone mother has been soldto a friend a few hours a way to make room for new from seed mothers so they take up a little less space for the number of clones provided.


She will be missed, but i want faster flowering phenos! :lol: of which this cross is full of...not sure what were gonna do with the fatass queen mom, if the new one is better we'll get rid of her too but if not she stays.


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    #818152 - 08/15/16 03:44 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like a plan brother.


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Hashed]
    #818172 - 08/15/16 04:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I was warned Crested/Fasciated buds are VERY susceptible to rot because of how big and dense they get early on, ESPECIALLY when outdoors, so as kind of expectet i noticed a thing today.


they were right, had to remove the crested bud today, noticed a couple dead leaves on it, and upon inspection there is some fresh rot starting on the inside, had to pull it off and do some surgery.

The bud was hard as a rock, so hard and dense, i am not even CLOSE to surprised i lost it early, had been expected since i realised it was a fasciated top branch

Live and learn, next time i have a fasciated outdoor plant ill be removing the top immediately, was just my first fasciated cannabis plant so i wanted to see what it would do.

Gonna dry what doesnt have any rot, and turn it into a dab or two of iso, all the trichs are still clear so not expecting it to be anything but a pre-yardwork dab.







when removing buds like this i strongly advise doing it under a plastic bag or something like that to avoid spreading fungal spores around to other parts of the plant.

spores are already there, this is planet earth, but the point is, you want as little spore mass on the thing as possible.

And when it comes to bud rot, a light steady rain is actually FAR worse then a brief heavy one, the brief ones can physically damage plants, but it actually removes alot of the surface spores and i rarely see rot after them. And after storms it tends to get sunny really quick again, it's the slow set in rates that cool it off for days of cool temps with high humidities that are my bane.

However this just seemed to have been caused by lack of airflow to the center of the bud, was quite a large, dense nug for being this early on in flower, so it's not surprising it rotted

Am thinking about bringing back out he garlic solutions and just hoping i get a good 4-5 days of sunny weather before harvest to kill the smell/taste of it. We got three days of rain in the forecast later on this week, may just have to go throw some grocery bags over the tops and pull off in between bouts of rain to get fresh air.

we shall see what happens when the time comes :lol: Had i not noticed the one tiny brown leaf up top coming from the center of that leaf that went brown without yellow in between, i could have EASILY ended up losing this whole plant in like a week once this next rain comes in.


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    #818176 - 08/15/16 07:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Shit bro, thank you for the information on budrot!


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Hashed]
    #818192 - 08/15/16 10:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

the pineapple purple skunk finally pulled out of whatever it was stuck in since birth, seeing some non deformed leaves and faster growth now :laugh:





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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #818195 - 08/15/16 11:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Awesome bro, can I see the drainage holes at the bottom of your seedling stage pots please. :smile:


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Hashed]
    #818197 - 08/16/16 03:42 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

lol, i literally just take a cigarette lighter and melt 3 or 4 pea sized holes into the bottom of a 16 ounce cup before i fill it with the soil mix.


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #818198 - 08/16/16 04:49 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Word.

Around the circumference of the bottom of the cup, or any specific grid pattern?
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    #818199 - 08/16/16 05:22 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It's the finer details that are often assumed as givens, when in actuality, it's a legitimate question. :lol:

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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Hashed]
    #818200 - 08/16/16 05:27 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Oh, been meaning to ask, seedling stage is still veg right, so like, as soon as the sprout pokes out of the soil, that is day 1 of veg?


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    #818216 - 08/16/16 03:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

not exactly, i usually consider seedling a separate stage...once the cotyledons start to go and the true leaves are taking over i start the veg clock. ( if your running organic or chemical feeds you have to add with the waterings, you start the veg clock as soon as you start the nutrients as far as i am aware)


but to be honest i dont count days, ever, i flip to flower when they are the SIZE i want, regardless of age, all plants are different in growth rates, even separate phenotypes from the same strain.

When i t comes to flowering, i also do NOT count the days, ever, i pull them when the trichs tell me they are ready.

The reason i do this is the wait just doesn't seem anywhere even NEARLY as stressful as when im counting down days


As for the holes in the cup, yea, the outside ring of the bottom, i make sure the holes go ever so slightly up the side of the cup as well, that way it still drains well when the cup is sitting on a flat surface.

Avoid those clay pots with the single drainage hole in the middle of the bottom unless you can get the bottom of the pot raised to allow the drainage to not pool on the roots.

i do NOT let the drainage sit in a container under the pot until the plant uses it, you can, is probably actually a good idea, but i take the drainage and use it to feed an angel trumpet hibiscus :lol: if i run out of nutrients in the super soil too early i just supplement the soil ecosystem with roots organics feed and compost teas, although generally when i have to do that my results arent quite as nice as not having to supplement the soil ecosystem at all

also try and edit new thoughts into your comment instead of posting again IF i havnt replied yet, makes it a little easier to read and keeps my journal from bumping other people's journals down the front page unintentionally


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #818218 - 08/16/16 06:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Word.

:takingnotes:

It's just that seedling soil and veg soil are the same, right?

It's quite a bit to wrap my head around, I'm getting there with your help though.


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    #818219 - 08/16/16 07:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

i just pop my seedlings in the soil mix i use for veg yes.


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #818222 - 08/16/16 07:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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i just pop my seedlings in the soil mix i use for veg yes.




I knew that, just needed confirmation coz the whole nutrient stuff was slightly confusing me and I was not 100% sure if you did something slightly differently or anything.

Well bro, I'm up to speed now and I think I got all the knowledge I need so far, thank you for everything, I'll let you know when I finished our guide.


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Hashed]
    #818223 - 08/16/16 08:02 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Had a tough call to make

Am completely unprepared for the 5+ days of rain forcasted to begin tomorrow, temps will be in the upper 70s and rainy and overcast all day.

In other words, the worst possible conditions my plant could be in at this point in flower, is a recipe for PM, bud rot, and overall disaster


This is what i came up with, am broke til payday atm (another 8 days away), so had to work with what i already had.

4 tobacco stakes and a plexiglass storm-door insert. not expecting much wind, just rain, so i imagine it should hold the majority of the rain off the plant, may get some in the sides but shouldnt be anything to worry about....at least i hope, ive never had a plant outside this far into flower this early.







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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #818224 - 08/16/16 08:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

That should keep most of the rain off. :super:


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    #818280 - 08/17/16 09:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

should hopefully block the majority of the rain while letting as much light though as possible. Thats the idea anyway, no clue if it'll work as well as i hope


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #818281 - 08/17/16 09:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Only time will tell, it will cover it like an umbrella no doubt, but I'm worried about if it's windy and rainy...


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Hashed]
    #818283 - 08/17/16 10:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

wind always comes through from the west here (left looking at the pic), thats why the storm door isnt centered over the plant, i wanted it to have a buffer against wind blown rain


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #818285 - 08/17/16 10:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Ahhhhhhh, I see it now, report back on how that weather troubleshoot works out for you!


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Hashed]
    #818344 - 08/20/16 12:24 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Milktruck apprentice?

I am by no means a master, at anything :lol:

Im good at being stingy with money and not failing miserably in the process.


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #818365 - 08/20/16 10:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Been a while since I updated on my indoor ladies, here's a good one

Here's the whole fam damnly, added my other t5 panel yesterday, gonna space em out a bit soon.



The one pineapple purple skunk that managed to pull out of its funk, is now firmly in veg and growing nice and quickly, is mildly polyploid





Here's my Delicious Cheese Candy fem, dont feel like looking back to see how old, had a weird problem with the leaves early on, looked like PH burn, but it corrected itself so im not worried





Here's the Dr.Krippling Incredible Bulk, showed the same issue the cheese candy showed, but corrected itself as well.






And the two SSH regular seeds i popped, upon watching them grow i emailed the breeder with pics....turn out i got sent the wrong seeds, these are another afghani land race, not Seedsman but should be indistinguishable from them, so far they look exactly like the seedsman afghani, kinda like slightly beefier afghani queens, looking forward to seeing what they do for me and Hashed :cool:

i let em get a bit too dry, were a bit wilty when i snapped the photo




Here is my Paradise Dutch Kush cup winner, looking fucking FANTASTIC, really like the look of this one so far :laugh:..she also never showed the burn issue that resolved itself the other two showed






And after sifting through my breeder slips, i never opened my special kush, but had opened my special queen #1 pack.

Would explain the similarities to my afghani queens xD

Special Queen #1, just as impressive as always, SAME AGE as the cheese candy and Dutch kush, THIS is why i fucking love this plant, easily twice the size of the others..... just wait till she flowers out :wink:. Also never showed the burn looking issue






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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #818372 - 08/21/16 04:24 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah bro, pretty much all my ganja cult knowledge comes from you. :super:


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Hashed]
    #818377 - 08/21/16 12:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Im sorry to hear that brother! lol jk


just remember i am by no means a master or anything close, im good at not failing miserably while spending almost NO money :lol:


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #818396 - 08/21/16 06:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Outdoor queen

Day: Something or other.... I still have the glass up, has rained off and on every day for almost a week now.









Some shitty lower nug trich shots, hard to get good shots up top with all the foliage




Am excited for this one, trichome production is damn near as good as ive ever seen it on an afghani queen :laugh:. cant wait to see her when she's done


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #818398 - 08/21/16 06:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

looking nice man I'm glad that sneeze guard is working well she don't look drenched at all and I am of the same school of thought why buy when you can make its the most overlooked of the 3R's REUSE! save you money and save the planet...


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    #818399 - 08/21/16 07:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

was actually raining when i took these pics, shes nice and dry :laugh: cant say the same about myself afterwards though lol


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    #818407 - 08/21/16 09:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

:dancer:
Good shit! :super:


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Hashed]
    #818508 - 08/24/16 09:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

out of bud til friday so i took the smallest bottom nug from my outdoor queen to quick dry on my fan over night...


will it ruin the taste and smell quick drying? Yes it will

Will it do what i want it to do? probably, smells fuckin fantastic, and super oily, only got about 20% cloudy trichs though, so gonna be quite heady, but hey, its still weed :lol:

already took two small budsites off the bottom of this nug and tossed them in the vape whip, and yes, if anyone is wondering, fresh nugs VAPE fine so long as your using a box and whip, even tastes great, but does NOT do so well in something like a Pax ploom or something handheld like that.


Basically, it's just a bowl to toke on after i get off work tomorrow lol


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    #818545 - 08/26/16 02:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

A little shiny, just sprayed again with some pyrethrins, only gonna get it once or twice more, she has about 2 weeks left or so, trichs are about 50% cloudy, with the rest being a mix of clear or partly amber :laugh:







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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #818550 - 08/26/16 05:42 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

oh buddy how tall did that queen get? pics look about 2 ft and how did that fresh nug vape? by the way they grow you would expect them to grow wild outside the one i got in my rig has popped through the first ring after the second day in the tent I'll post pics today


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    #818552 - 08/26/16 07:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Killin it


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Baron_Samedi]
    #818603 - 08/28/16 01:34 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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oh buddy how tall did that queen get? pics look about 2 ft and how did that fresh nug vape? by the way they grow you would expect them to grow wild outside the one i got in my rig has popped through the first ring after the second day in the tent I'll post pics today




Itsnot asgood as cured bud, but it works well if you have no herb and would like to smoke and all you got is fresh weed,doesnt happenmuch but when it does its good to know wet herb vapes alright...it can take a rip or two to get it vaping nice but once it starts it tastes fucking fantasic and goes for a longtime, and the kick is damn near as good as cured nugs in the same vape.

However smoking fresh herb is a complete waste of time and effort...seriously :lol:

and i didn't get the seed popped until the last week of april, should have had another month more veg time than it had, that;s the only real reason it's so small, is actually taller than i expected, and was almost 3 feet tall, right at 30 inches last i measure


but well... bad news.

Walked with 2 gallons of water about 1.5 miles into the park to give her a drink.


What i found was the MAJORITY of my plant still alive and thriving...

but the second largest branch had been VERY recenty, like hours before, broken right off the plant,and the missing branch was NOWHERE to be found

i made a tough call and pulled her about 10-14 days early.


i fucking hate thieves :mad2: decided to get her out of the ground immediately and not bother waiting to see what happened, as there is a good chance they only took what they could hide and would be back later on, likely the same day, have dealt with this EXACT problem on more than one occasion,is a risk i take planting in the state park.


took a few pics after i got to the house...

some are shit, some are ok....was in a hurry, had a lot of shit to do this evening and it took me about an hour at least to trim it all up








Probably gonna be between 1-1.5 ounces dry, is a little over 6 ounces wet



There are some pretty decent nugs though, gonna be headier than i wanted, but likes like itll be fine to smoke on for a bit, should make some pretty good hash as well;)



A smaller lower nug, still easier to focus on for trich shots than the bigger top ones lol



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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #818604 - 08/28/16 01:44 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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i made a tough call and pulled her about 10-14 days early.


i fucking hate thieves :mad2: decided to get her out of the ground immediately and not bother waiting to see what happened, as there is a good chance they only took what they could hide and would be back later on, likely the same day, have dealt with this EXACT problem on more than one occasion,is a risk i take planting in the state park.



Excellent call, had you waited the culprits could have very well taken everything.
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    #818622 - 08/28/16 11:38 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I took a lot of pics...will type something out for you in PM when I have the time lol


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    #818645 - 08/28/16 07:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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    #818650 - 08/28/16 10:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

bummer dude that's pretty lame lucky they didn't grab it all my buddy used to rig his spot with trip lines attached to hundreds of 5.56 rounds rigged to fire on mouse traps... old school growers used to love rigging traps here as a kid we were always warned to look out for traps and to stay on trails


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    #818651 - 08/28/16 10:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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lucky they didn't grab it all



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    #818914 - 09/03/16 11:06 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

A few of the more mature better looking nugs from near the top of the better branches. Is a bit darker than this. Lighting is a little weird.



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    #819133 - 09/09/16 06:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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    #819598 - 09/25/16 10:55 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Been a while....going to cut all my mothers down Into a bunch of clones later on this week leaving enough room for new growth to replace all the taken cuttings. All five mothers are doing awesome. Still working on getting these moms out for unlimited clone stock :smile:

From left to right: Incredible Bulk, Cheese Candy, Special Queen#1, Dutch Kush (then five little clones down below. 2 special queen, 2 cheese candy, and a Dutch kush so far



Special Queen and Dutch kush


Incredible Bulk and Cheese candy.


And last but NOT least, the one female pineapple purple skunk I ended up with. Is HUGELY sativa domi.ant and growing too tall too quick for my t5 box with the others. So I have it in its own cfl box in veg. Is yet another clone mother at this point.



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    #819690 - 09/28/16 05:06 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

:thumbup:

Great plants Milktruck! I ended up with only 1 female out of the seeds I started and it flowered earlier then I intended but damn it smells amazing :crazy2:

Been wondering if it is feasible to try and clone it then revert the clone to veg so I can get a mother out of it...

If not I will have to start the rest of the seeds when I have the space and make sure I get at least 1 dank mother, thanks again!

Hope you had a great summer Milktruck! :cheers:

Also I can't place it but the smell if very very familiar... It has a very fruity/ skunky smell that is absolutely amazing. I am assuming it smells like some other Afghani and or kush hybrid I have tried but I can't place it.


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    #819691 - 09/28/16 05:46 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

yea buddy that looks like fun I'm slowly converting my veg box to hold some mama Queens now I see the phenos I want to clone it's time to pop seed I lost all my clones due to too much moisture this time so I'm moving cloning to just window light and dwc they should recover better so veg box should be able to hold 2 mama's and a seed starting Aeromist rig or something along those lines lol


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: musiclover420]
    #819716 - 09/29/16 08:44 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yea...clones in flower tend to have lower sucess ratios though. But is definately doable. The stems just harden early in flower and makes it more difficult.

And yea, the smells are definatly one of the positives to this cross. A few of mine have even had some smells ive never smelled before. That "burnt rubber" pheno in particular, ive never smelled anything in my life quite like that one.

Just wait till you taste some fully cured queen...the title Queen is definately fitting :smile:

As for early flowering. I have had two phenos from the queens that were legitimate 7 week finishers. Others, like the burnt rubber pheno ccan take 9. And you could easily be forgiven for thinking they were a different strain all together. But all are the SAME exact f1 cross.


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    #820419 - 10/20/16 04:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

FLOWERING UPDATE


Have the cheese candy, the pineapple purple skunk and the incredible bulk upstairs in my cfl veg box.

And my Special Queen #1 and Dutch Kush are as of right now, 5 days in 12/12



Dutch Kush (as with most bushy indicas, hard as fuck to get good pics of




And Special Queen #1, currently recovering from a nitrogen and phosphorous/magnesium deficiency, but since shes going into flower that ahould be fairly effortless to correct, she always goes into nitrogen deficiency in veg quite easily. New growth is darker and healthier than the old and the stem purrpling is non existent so far on new growth




She is unbelievably quick to flower for the amount of sativa in her, as usual :laugh:


Cheese candy still in veg, only taken a couple clones to far, is a mother plant to be. (slight light stretching, not a major issue since is a clone mother)




Pineapple Purple Skunk looking half retarded and quite pitful, but its because i just took about clones from her :3



Incredible Bulk looking just as pitiful, for the exact same reason


And the aformentioned reason for why my mothers look all wimpy right now (this is TEMPORARY FOR ONE DAY UNTIL I PICK UP SOME MORE COIR AND PERLITE TOMORROW!!!!!)



And i am FULLY aware i let my plants in flower veg too big for my t5 setup, but i am also fully prepared, as soon as they get too big my t5's are being moved upstairs to veg my mothers and clones, and this bad boy is going up for flower.

Is a 400 watt high pressure sodium security fixture, 54,000 lumens and 2200k :cool:
Is non switchable 240 volt so i just gotta do some rewiring in the walls from the breaker a bit first lol. Only thing on my 240 is my oven and its only 6 amps on a 20 amp dedicated 240v circuit :laugh:


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #820441 - 10/21/16 12:10 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

What kind of cfls do you use for veg?


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    #820450 - 10/21/16 11:39 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

i use a bunch, from 2700k to 6500k, from 23 watt to 42 watt

as far as i can tell the spectrum doesnt matter much, ive been told 2700k will have more foliage and smaller stems in veg, and vice versa for 6500k,maybe, but it's not enough to make a nopticeable difference.

i start with a single 23 watt bulb on a fresh seedling, then as it gets larger as more, you can have as little as 75-100 watts of light on plants the size of mine IN VEG and get away with it. If you switch to flower in 4-5 weeks or less you can get away with training and flowering under t5's and pull off more than pleasing yeilds for the wattage.

however there is a reason im moving to an HID for these plants, i got lazy and just let them get too big :lol:


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #820505 - 10/26/16 04:47 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

day 11 of 12/12





Dutch Kush:








Special queen #1








Love how fast the special queen flowers for the amount of sativa in her. Already getting some glandular trichs as well :laugh:





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    #820519 - 10/27/16 03:27 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry for double post.

Decided I'm not going to modify the wiring of my house...

Because I found this on sale for $88 brand spanking new.

400 watt MH/HPS switchable and dimmable. 38,000 lumen MH bulb and 54,000 lumen HPS bulb and bat wing fixture, along with a grounded mechanical timer. Felt like a steal :smile:....ballast is 120 volts so I won't have to modify anything in my house lol







Ill post up some more pics when I get it all setup

EDIT! Its fully setup. Good temps (upper 70s) at the canopy after being on over 90 minutes and the light is about 10 inches from the average top height.







and yes, those two wires have been neatly zip tied and routed up the sides of the closet :laugh:. Ballast and any outlets or timers are now up above the lighting fixtures as it should be


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #820603 - 10/29/16 04:03 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

HIDs for years dude! Nice score. I got a little excited about the ballast, but then you said dimmable. So then I knew it was electronic. dont get me wrong my electronic dimmable ballasts are fucking tops amazing gear. But if you got a 400w magnetic you coulda scored in a different way.

I admire the work you do and the ideas you have about lighting, using the least amount of energy and shooting for top yields in the watts.
So then you'll appreciate 400w cmh setup, 1/3-1/2 the BTU of HIDs which is the equiviliant heat of running a 150W MH :lol: not to mention that ceramic yields could be as high as 1.5g per watt which could give you well over a lb when dialed in off 400w. :eek:


Also leads me to my next question I came back to ask if you thought some 26w 5000k cfls around the perimeters for an extra 100w-200w for 4 sides of my CMHs boundary

Check out my thread for progress man.


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    #820610 - 10/29/16 03:37 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Im expecting about 5-6 ounces this go, but next round with proper training and a single long vegged plant im hoping to get closer to 8 :laugh:



as for 1/5 g/watt under 400 watts, would be quite difficult, at 10 inches a 400 watt maybe 90% as intense as a 600 watty,. but at 18 inches its onlyabout half as intense (with new bulbs, different brandsobviously decay at different rates), the lumens drop off at a much quicker rate when gaining distance from the fixture when you go down in wattage for HID. 1g/watt is doable under a single 400 watt fixture, but its a LOT easier under multiple 400 watt fixtures daisy chained or under a higher wattage fixture as the lumen intensity just reaches farther, and if using multiple lights, it overlaps.

i mnay read 30,000 lumens at a foot from a 400 watt, and 36,000 a foot from a 600 watt, but 2 feet from a 400 watt i read like 11,000, and 2 feet from a 600 watt ill still read almost 20,000 lumens

And about CMH, have never used a ceramic metal halide, i know they run cooler, but thats about all i know lol.


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Re: RQS Special Queen #1 x Seedsman Original Afghani #1 Outdoor 2016 [Re: Milktruck]
    #820652 - 10/30/16 07:55 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

leveled out the canopy nicely, and managed to get my pineapple purple skunk into the glow with the special queen and the dutch Kush :cool:






Dutch Kush





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    #820750 - 11/04/16 04:45 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

day 18 of flower.

the girls are looking lovely :awesome:

Really pleased with how quickly they are maturing under the HPS :cool: had some slight light bleaching start around the edges of a few leaves on the dutch kush but i caught it early and backed the light off a couple inches. Is about a foot away now

and half of my old flowering setup has been retired to my cacti :laugh:





Dutch Kush





Special Queen




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