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Blue Cheese grow
    #715979 - 02/18/14 10:15 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Got my new room going. I'll be running some blue cheese mostly with some chem and a couple of less important randoms. Cuts pooped roots about a week ago and are now starting to veg under 1000 watts of mh. Probably going to veg out another 2-3 weeks then flip to 3000w of hps. May run a double trellis may just use stakes I'm not too sure at this point. I'll have a couple group photos posted tonight.

I will be running a side by side comparison of H&G Root Excelurator and Tappin Roots all the way through with the first feeding being Thursday.


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Re: Big Buddha Blue Cheese grow [Re: GreenHorns]
    #715982 - 02/18/14 10:25 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Are you going to do a couple plants as a control with neither of those products?


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Re: Big Buddha Blue Cheese grow [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #715991 - 02/18/14 10:59 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I wanted to initially but may just give everything something. Still kicking ideas around with feeding. If I do there will be more more than 2 with no root additive.


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Re: Big Buddha Blue Cheese grow [Re: GreenHorns]
    #716579 - 02/21/14 11:18 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

So heres the girls as of a couple days ago. I just gave them their first feeding when this pic was taken, and there is already new growth since then. Ill try and upload a pic a week to document the growth. I will be feeding most of them House and Garden Soil line and growing in FFOF mixed up with perlite or maybe just a bag of air mix from Botanicare well see when i transplant in a few days.

Also i will pull 2 plants aside when i they hit 1 gallon pots and start giving them the Tappin Roots in place of the Root Excel. The dosage between the two are very different (.5ml/gallon RE and 4ml/gallon TR) but i dont think that should make a difference in overall food to plant. Decided against depriving a test plant the supplement since i don't think anyone here is going to contest whether or not adding RE is a worthy investment. Enjoy




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Re: Big Buddha Blue Cheese grow [Re: GreenHorns]
    #717081 - 02/23/14 01:15 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

application rate is  4-6tsp per gallon not ml


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Re: Big Buddha Blue Cheese grow [Re: macs]
    #717160 - 02/23/14 09:47 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Ehh from a scientific perspective I'm a little bothered about the lack of a control, as it really helps clarify what's doing what. 

But I can totally understand why you wouldn't want to leave a plant with nothing, that could be affecting your plant health/yield by the end of it, etc.


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Re: Big Buddha Blue Cheese grow [Re: Inocuole]
    #717167 - 02/23/14 10:28 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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macs said:
application rate is  4-6tsp per gallon not ml



My sample bottle says 1.1ml per gallon but it is a sample.
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Inocuole said:
Ehh from a scientific perspective I'm a little bothered about the lack of a control, as it really helps clarify what's doing what. 

But I can totally understand why you wouldn't want to leave a plant with nothing, that could be affecting your plant health/yield by the end of it, etc.



Yeah it won't do any good having a control. Enough people have done that research already.


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Re: Big Buddha Blue Cheese grow [Re: macs]
    #717187 - 02/24/14 02:05 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

could you post a pic of the tap pin roots sample bottle? all my sample bottles say 4-6tsp per gallon thats weird


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Re: Big Buddha Blue Cheese grow [Re: GreenHorns]
    #717209 - 02/24/14 09:15 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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GreenHorns said:
Quote:

macs said:
application rate is  4-6tsp per gallon not ml



My sample bottle says 1.1ml per gallon but it is a sample.
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Inocuole said:
Ehh from a scientific perspective I'm a little bothered about the lack of a control, as it really helps clarify what's doing what. 

But I can totally understand why you wouldn't want to leave a plant with nothing, that could be affecting your plant health/yield by the end of it, etc.



Yeah it won't do any good having a control. Enough people have done that research already.





Actually if you don't have a control, technically the entire test is null.


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Re: Big Buddha Blue Cheese grow [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #717215 - 02/24/14 10:48 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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macs said:
could you post a pic of the tap pin roots sample bottle? all my sample bottles say 4-6tsp per gallon thats weird



Sorry typo the RE is 1.1ml/gallon

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Quote:

GreenHorns said:
Quote:

macs said:
application rate is  4-6tsp per gallon not ml



My sample bottle says 1.1ml per gallon but it is a sample.
Quote:

Inocuole said:
Ehh from a scientific perspective I'm a little bothered about the lack of a control, as it really helps clarify what's doing what. 

But I can totally understand why you wouldn't want to leave a plant with nothing, that could be affecting your plant health/yield by the end of it, etc.



Yeah it won't do any good having a control. Enough people have done that research already.





Actually if you don't have a control, technically the entire test is null.




Ehh like I said I'm not trying to prove either works better than nothing since plenty of people have already seen diminished yields from doing nothing. All it will prove its that I'll have less weed too. no thanks. Just want to see how much better one works compared to the other since they claim similar things.


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Re: Big Buddha Blue Cheese grow [Re: GreenHorns]
    #717248 - 02/24/14 12:29 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

GreenHorns said:
Quote:

macs said:
could you post a pic of the tap pin roots sample bottle? all my sample bottles say 4-6tsp per gallon thats weird



Sorry typo the RE is 1.1ml/gallon

Quote:

Harry_Ba11sach said:
Quote:

GreenHorns said:
Quote:

macs said:
application rate is  4-6tsp per gallon not ml



My sample bottle says 1.1ml per gallon but it is a sample.
Quote:

Inocuole said:
Ehh from a scientific perspective I'm a little bothered about the lack of a control, as it really helps clarify what's doing what. 

But I can totally understand why you wouldn't want to leave a plant with nothing, that could be affecting your plant health/yield by the end of it, etc.



Yeah it won't do any good having a control. Enough people have done that research already.





Actually if you don't have a control, technically the entire test is null.




Ehh like I said I'm not trying to prove either works better than nothing since plenty of people have already seen diminished yields from doing nothing. All it will prove its that I'll have less weed too. no thanks. Just want to see how much better one works compared to the other since they claim similar things.




i think harry is right cuz each strain yields differently so that should be a factor as well as the nutes. you will have a lot more info about your plant(likes/dislikes/nutrient tolerance and uptake). if your limited with space i would understand why you wouldnt want to do that tho.


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Re: Big Buddha Blue Cheese grow [Re: GreenHorns]
    #717250 - 02/24/14 12:51 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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Actually if you don't have a control, technically the entire test is null.




I didn't want to say it quite like this but, overall, this

Also, I may have misunderstood, did you say that you're going to use one product, then the other, on some of the plants?  Aren't they also somewhat different products with different application methods/timeframes?


I just... 

As a new grower I can't say shit because I'm 100% sure you can grow better plants than me and I can see why you wouldn't want to leave any plants lacking, and hell, do whatever you want to your grow. We're lucky you're sharing it at all, and for that I thank you.

But as a supporter of utilizing proper scientific method, this hurts me just a little bit.

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Re: Big Buddha Blue Cheese grow [Re: Inocuole]
    #717341 - 02/24/14 06:03 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I'm using RE on all but 2 and those 2 will be fed TR in place of RE to determine ONLY if it compares overall to RE.

Transplanting tonight to 1 gallons. I'll upload a pic of the progress. Kicked up the light to 750w from 600w. Once they are all sprawled out I'll bump it up to 1000w and start training.


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Re: Big Buddha Blue Cheese grow [Re: GreenHorns]
    #718310 - 02/28/14 02:25 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Alright its time for an update. Ive got everyone transplanted over into appx. 1 gallon pots. Ill crank the ballast up to 1k and raise the light one more time then move them again to 3 gallon pots where they will hang till harvest. There is great growth across the board.

Now time for the side by side. I started 2 test plants with TR in place of RE and will really start seeing a difference, if any, from this point on.

Group photo



Test plants



Now this sad piece of hell will be the true testament. This was a freebee from a dispensary that was:

1)way to fucking big for being in rockwool with almost ZERO roots popping out.
2) had a touch of PM
3) its a freebee so how good can it get?

This thing had some bad transplant shock going from a cube as a teen to Fox Farm Light Warrior then got put on the back burner while i handled other shit. There are some new roots but not much. I also ran out of pots so i cut up a milk container to give this thing one last shot before i plant it outside. before i covered up the root ball i sprayed the heck out of it with a TR solution. Lets see if this chode plant rebounds.



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Re: Big Buddha Blue Cheese grow [Re: GreenHorns]
    #719291 - 03/04/14 11:08 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

So this is what's happening now. I'm feeding all but 2 plants Root Excel and the other 2 Tappin Roots in place. So far so good the TR seems to at least be keeping up. I'll move up to 3 gallons in a few days and see if the root balls do look more/as developed. This group will be blooming under 3k over 3 hoods in another 10 days or so. Need to square away minor odds and ends before really getting this party started. All I know at this point is these plants are all very happy and im gonna smoke the hell out of some rad cheese come june.

I'll have some pics up real soon.


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Re: Big Buddha Blue Cheese grow [Re: GreenHorns]
    #719335 - 03/05/14 10:05 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Computer issues resolved.

Here are a couple pics of whats going on.





pretty even growth at this point.




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Re: Big Buddha Blue Cheese grow [Re: GreenHorns]
    #719517 - 03/06/14 01:14 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Strange curling on the leaves of some of the og in the room and a similar curl on one of the blue cheese. Not familiar with this and if azamax doesn't clear it up before flower I may just bomb the room or dare think it use avid.






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Re: Big Buddha Blue Cheese grow [Re: GreenHorns]
    #719686 - 03/07/14 01:27 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)







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Re: Big Buddha Blue Cheese grow [Re: GreenHorns]
    #719687 - 03/07/14 01:41 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Looks nice and healthy :hi5:


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Re: Big Buddha Blue Cheese grow [Re: P-O]
    #719730 - 03/07/14 04:50 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Can't wait to flip them. Then we'll really have a show.


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