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Re: Allah, Bless Me [Re: MonsignorBerric]
    #570217 - 07/06/11 09:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Wow that atheist guy is a total moron ...Why keep trying to put fences between people's beliefs when you can have them live happily together?


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Re: Allah, Bless Me [Re: Manitou]
    #570218 - 07/06/11 09:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Fascism is contagious

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Re: Allah, Bless Me [Re: Manitou]
    #570219 - 07/06/11 09:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I get so worked up about this stuff. I dont want to be all "athiests are stupid for believing in nothing" but its people like that that push me damn near close. Im done with this thread also, cause I really dont want to get banned over trolling MB. And im not demonstrating being a open minded person either, so for that, I apologize MB.


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Re: Allah, Bless Me [Re: BlueBerry_Swisher]
    #570220 - 07/06/11 09:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Was talking about the atheist guy in the video link btw :bubbles: not about another member


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Re: Allah, Bless Me [Re: Manitou]
    #570222 - 07/06/11 09:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I know. This wasnt towards your post :haha:


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Re: Allah, Bless Me [Re: BlueBerry_Swisher]
    #570223 - 07/06/11 09:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I used to think religion was a great evil, but that argument is really just another distraction to keep us divided. I still don't find most of it entirely logical, but I can understand people have different desires out of life than I.

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Re: Allah, Bless Me [Re: DungenessDank]
    #570227 - 07/06/11 09:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Gaskelort said:
It sure is, reasons? What is a religion? It is a belief that attempt to explain the environment around the persons, what is science? Same thing

Why would science be "the truth"? Because scientists say so
Why would a religion (ex: any monotheist religion, but here it will be with Catholicism, doesn't necessarily works with animism) be "the truth"? Because Vatican say so...

It is not because you were educated with science that it is necessarily the truth, I prefer to say it is an explanation, among so many others which are all coherent in themselves, I do believe it is a religion, because people these days venerate scientists like priests & "The Science" like a god.



Fucking retarded.


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Many people do have this mind set, and it is through their own ignorance of science that they arrive on science as the source to all answers.

Throughout history science has proven itself to be completely wrong, the one thing that sets it aside from religions is the fact science can change its "truths", eventually, to meet reality.

Science can't answer all questions yet, nor do I think it will ever be able to, but at least their approach is more logical than religious institutions.




Fucking NOT retarded.


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Re: Allah, Bless Me [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #570228 - 07/06/11 09:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Allah, Bless Me [Re: MonsignorBerric]
    #570231 - 07/06/11 09:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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MonsignorBerric said:
about 90% of this thread is just :doublefacepalm:
Now I'm :kingcrankey: Guess I need a j

I'll just put this out there

An atheist cannot tell a theist their beliefs are wrong, and vice versa.

I cannot drink from your cup, and you cannot drink from mine

Science and the occult are the same thing

Remember that scientists constantly have to revise their ideas, and before they do so, they are "wrong"

Believing in anything 100% is pure stupidity

Edit- the smartest man is the one who knows he knows nothing





I like where you were going with that, but the underlined part bugs me. I don't think people who say they believe in science say that scientifically "proven" facts (That phrase bugs the fuck out of me as well because one of the most primary tenets of science is that NOTHING can be proven) are the hard fast truth. I think what they're saying is they believe in the idea that you can take outside inputs, experiences and observations and use them to reformat your understanding of your surroundings. Whereas most religions are founded on a steadfast set of laws that are unbendable and permanent regardless of new information, science is malleable and constantly striving for improvement.

At least that's how I interpret statements like that :shrug:


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Re: Allah, Bless Me [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #570233 - 07/06/11 09:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Look at how far science has come. The sun used to revolve around us. Now its the opposite. What else is the opposite now?


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Re: Allah, Bless Me [Re: BlueBerry_Swisher]
    #570237 - 07/06/11 09:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

going back even further, the entire universe used to revolve around us as well. Even further, the Natives used to think the night sky was a painted bowl turned upside down over the ground at night. :shrug:

People are funny.


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Re: Allah, Bless Me [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #570238 - 07/06/11 09:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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science is malleable and constantly striving for improvement.



I like how you interpret it bro.
:yesnod:


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Re: Allah, Bless Me [Re: Slave of Cthulhu]
    #570242 - 07/06/11 10:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I find Native American religion to be amazing. It was so organic and thankful. Especially kokopelli, he carried songs on his back that brought rain and harvest, and fertility to women. Thats a big range of abilities lol.


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Re: Allah, Bless Me [Re: Slave of Cthulhu]
    #570243 - 07/06/11 10:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks homie. I've spent basically my entire life being scientific, and more importantly philosophizing about the need for science.


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Re: Allah, Bless Me [Re: BlueBerry_Swisher]
    #570244 - 07/06/11 10:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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A7X said:
I find Native American religion to be amazing. It was so organic and thankful. Especially kokopelli, he carried songs on his back that brought rain and harvest, and fertility to women. Thats a big range of abilities lol.




Yeah that's pretty much what happens when I sing too.


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Re: Allah, Bless Me [Re: Slave of Cthulhu]
    #570253 - 07/06/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

both fields have proven to have their unique qualities. even some of the eastern religions have parallels with modern science like quantum theory or other branches of physics. cant say much about western though, for i lack understanding.

this thread turned onto a dead end street.

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Re: Allah, Bless Me [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #570254 - 07/06/11 10:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Same here bro. My whole family has always tried pushing their Christian ways on me but I refuse to accept something that I cannot and will not believe. It's cool to know I'm not the only one that feels strongly about science.


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Re: Allah, Bless Me [Re: Slave of Cthulhu]
    #570255 - 07/06/11 10:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ahh but I don't use my appreciation for the scientific method as a way to discredit religious people. I believe there's a time and a place for both, as long as they're used properly.


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Re: Allah, Bless Me [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #570258 - 07/06/11 10:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think if all were one, one really could be for all. Science included.


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Re: Allah, Bless Me [Re: Slave of Cthulhu]
    #570259 - 07/06/11 10:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm super digging your futurama pictures :thumbup:

I'm borderline obsessed with that show.


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