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Offlinejutfan
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guey rooots!!!!!!!!!!
    #537618 - 03/17/11 01:24 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

just recently but my two female plants in a 10 gallon tubaware. with only five gallons in it. but when i pick it up to see the roots. it does look like them got a bit longer. but all i see is guey lookin roots. someone help me know wht tht could mean.


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Re: guey rooots!!!!!!!!!! [Re: jutfan]
    #537620 - 03/17/11 01:35 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

wtf are "guey" looking roots?


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Re: guey rooots!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #537623 - 03/17/11 01:55 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

here is a pic of what i was talking about.remember this is my first time growing so im making sure every lil thing i see i ask about so i can know for the future and couldnt find anything tht related to it




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Re: guey rooots!!!!!!!!!! [Re: jutfan]
    #537625 - 03/17/11 02:35 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Ok I'm still not really sure what the word "guey" is supposed to mean, but I can tell you those roots look absolutely awful. Is that plant still alive? if it is then I'd give it at most another week until it isn't.

You need to get ALL the algae out of that tank and off those roots. Buy some physan 20 and some H2O2 and go nuts on that shit, like seriously those roots should be sparkling white from top to bottom, and that slime is literally going to choke the plant out. Change the water in the reservoir and COMPLETELY lightproof the entire system. Also, run the tank for a couple days with water, Physan20 and H2O2 to kill everything in there and then start again with fresh nutrients. Hopefully we can save your plant but that's pretty bad.

What's the water temperature? I'd guess around 80 or 90 degrees.


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Re: guey rooots!!!!!!!!!! *DELETED* [Re: jutfan]
    #537628 - 03/17/11 03:02 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: guey rooots!!!!!!!!!! [Re: wishcouldeletethis]
    #537631 - 03/17/11 03:09 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Hahaha oohhhhh, that's the word he was trying to say. I couldn't figure that out for the life of me. :lol:


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Re: guey rooots!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #537660 - 03/17/11 05:53 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

damn damn damn that fucking sucks. hopefully we can keep them alive. they look really healthy with a bit of heat stress on top due to me lowering it but i highered it back up/so what do i do when i buy the stuff . just throw it in there with it are get a new set of water an throw the


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1. Are you growing from seed or clones?seeds
2. How old are your plants? about 26 days of veggie
3. How tall are your plants? lil more than a foot
4. What type of hydro system are you using? dwc
5. What brand/type of nutrients are you using? biothrive
6. What is the Ph of your nutrient solution?6.5
7. What is the PPM/EC of your tap water? 10 to 15, get 5 gallon jugs at heb
8. What is the PPM/EC of your nutrient solution???
9. What is the temperature of your nutrient solution???
10. Does your PPM/EC show a rise or fall when you do your daily PPM check? rise
11. Does your pH show a rise or fall when you do your daily check?rise
12. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?n/a
13. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")just a 400watt mh
14. How close are your lights to the plants?about 2ft
15. What size is your grow space in square feet?12*12
16. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?80
17. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?no
18. How much experience do you have growing?reading


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Re: guey rooots!!!!!!!!!! [Re: jutfan]
    #537663 - 03/17/11 05:56 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

im going to the ponics store to get tht stuff. be right back on after a bit. i dont wanna lose my girls. alos to add i dont have an inline fan yet, tht were alot of the heat is coming from


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Re: guey rooots!!!!!!!!!! [Re: jutfan]
    #537665 - 03/17/11 05:59 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

The Physan20 is a miracle cure for algae I've found. And H2O2, don't skimp, get the 30% stuff


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Re: guey rooots!!!!!!!!!! *DELETED* [Re: jutfan]
    #537675 - 03/17/11 07:12 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: guey rooots!!!!!!!!!! [Re: wishcouldeletethis]
    #537678 - 03/17/11 07:26 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

ok gotcha. for now. in the container i have 2 9inch air stones. i will add another just to see how it goes.i did buy some sm-90 just to throw in there an see how much it would help. but i take total responsibility what you dont know is before i put them in the tub (2 days ago) i had them in a plastic tubaware an it was see threw.,, what can i say im an amature.


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Re: guey rooots!!!!!!!!!! [Re: wishcouldeletethis]
    #537679 - 03/17/11 07:29 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

in a bucket this is much easier.

Your ph should also be roughly 5.8, not 6.5

With that kind of growth you definitely have a lack of air and more than likely, light leaks.



tomorow i am going to go get some buckets so this dont ever happen again. but i didint know that i always saw keep it 5.8 threw 6.5 so i didnt think 6.5 was a bad thing. misunderstanding on my part.


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Re: guey rooots!!!!!!!!!! [Re: wishcouldeletethis]
    #537681 - 03/17/11 07:57 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

lampshadehelmet said:
Use Physan20 at 1mL per 10 gallons and I would only let it sit in your reservoir for 12hrs before dumping and starting fresh. Physan20 is some strrrrong stuff and can very easily kill sick/weakened plants.

H202 in my opinion is nowhere near as effective as upping the air in your reservoir.

Before adding the physan take your plants to your kitchen sink and hose off your roots with the spray hose using cold water, just don't blast them with too much water pressure.

I do not know why you are using a 10gallon tub and filling it to 5 gallons but I would switch to, two 5 gallon buckets. You need to fill your water with air bubbles and not have dead spots, in a bucket this is much easier.

Your ph should also be roughly 5.8, not 6.5

With that kind of growth you definitely have a lack of air and more than likely, light leaks.




I've never had issues with Physan20 hurting my plants, but I guess I've also never had them looking like this one before either. Good advice :thumbup:

As for the H2O2, it does far more than just oxygenate the reservoir. It's an actual sterilization agent as well as a heavy oxidant so it will help dissolve dead tissues, both necrotic roots AND dead algae. So instead of a bunch of dead organic matter floating around in there in chunks after the physan the Hydrogen Peroxide will dissolve the dead tissues. Of course he should always work on increasing dissolved O2, but I wouldn't discount the effectiveness and importance of H2O2


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    #537688 - 03/17/11 08:24 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: guey rooots!!!!!!!!!! [Re: wishcouldeletethis]
    #537698 - 03/17/11 09:44 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

ok i got you. i just added another battery powered air pump just to help so theres a good pit of oxygen pumping in there now.. but i plan on doing that with the next day are so, to see if me doing wht i did helped anything.


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Re: guey rooots!!!!!!!!!! [Re: jutfan]
    #537699 - 03/17/11 09:48 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Just adding air at this point won't do anything though. Increasing dissolved oxygen, lowering the water temps and fixing light leaks will be great for preventing algae in the future, but with the amount of nasties on those roots right now you NEED to get Physan20 or something similar and some H2O2 immediately to kill the existing algae.


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Re: guey rooots!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #537703 - 03/17/11 10:14 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

yes i well do that too i just got to wait till the water gets done sitting out for a bit. so that it dont kill the roots. from what iv heard it will. are am i wrong. cause thats the reason i havnt done so yet.


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Re: guey rooots!!!!!!!!!! [Re: jutfan]
    #537710 - 03/17/11 10:58 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

What do you mean sitting out? Like to let the chlorine evaporate? If that's what you're talking about then I wouldn't worry about it. The algae on your roots is 1000% worse for the plant than tap water.


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Re: guey rooots!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #537720 - 03/17/11 11:29 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

If anything the chlorine would help the problem right now..

I would at this point though be doing daily res changes. Look into some products called Hygrozyme and FloraShield. I use them for fungus related root problems. They help break down all of the foreign growth or "gooey" shit.

But really though your roots should look like this.



Also what temp is your res at? Do you have a decent air pump? Is there any light going into your res at all? These are some things to consider because they are all factors in growth like that.


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Re: guey rooots!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Dephect]
    #537724 - 03/17/11 11:46 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

ok i got you. but the thing is the container i just put it in wasnt the same container it had been in for the past 24 days. so not even a day ago i put them in the 10 gallon container with five gallons.like i said earlyer the first container it had been in for about 24 days thts orginally where it started in it looked like tht when i put it in the 10 gallon container. i went an filled up another five gallons in my jug at the store.so now that you HAVE MORE INFO, should i wait to see how well the sm-90 works, an i did take it to the sink an rinsed it with cold water an 80% of it fell off. in my containter the ppm is less than 800 an the ph is about 6.0 still trying to lower it. the water before everything only had a ppm of 10


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