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Offlinepure sativa
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Favorite hallucingen?
    #528908 - 02/20/11 12:50 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Favorite thang to trip on


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Re: Favorite hallucingen? [Re: pure sativa]
    #528910 - 02/20/11 12:54 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

:lsd2:


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Re: Favorite hallucingen? [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #528931 - 02/20/11 01:20 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

its a toss up.. LSD is so much fun and feels so good.. DMT is fuckin WOW!!!!!!!!!!
cant go wrong with either. DMT is so strong.. lol..


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Re: Favorite hallucingen? [Re: pure sativa]
    #528954 - 02/20/11 01:44 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

:laugh:mt:


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Re: Favorite hallucingen? [Re: Stoneth]
    #529099 - 02/20/11 03:20 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Shrooms hands down. What I experience and the way I feel compares to nothing else.

Still waiting to try dmt :deemsters:


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Re: Favorite hallucingen? [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #529103 - 02/20/11 03:28 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Seconded.

Its been too long.


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Re: Favorite hallucingen? [Re: RasJeph]
    #529109 - 02/20/11 03:43 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

mesc for sure based on my very limited experience with it.


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Re: Favorite hallucingen? [Re: pure sativa]
    #529112 - 02/20/11 03:53 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Probably DMT, its pretty insane and the short duration is the best part.



For the actual long ride- toss up between mushrooms or mescaline. :shrug:


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Re: Favorite hallucingen? [Re: Ombient]
    #529117 - 02/20/11 04:00 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

I'd love some mescaline. I wish I had some mescaline sulfate. I'd love to make some myself but I don't wanna fuck up and waste a whole bunch of cactus for nothing...


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Re: Favorite hallucingen? [Re: RasJeph]
    #529118 - 02/20/11 04:05 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Not hard to do the simple Iso extraction from what i hear... similar to making iso hash


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Re: Favorite hallucingen? [Re: Tangerines]
    #529121 - 02/20/11 04:08 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Tangerines said:
Not hard to do the simple Iso extraction from what i hear... similar to making iso hash




I'd be interested in trying to make some of this in the near future.  I've wanted to do that and DMT for a while.  i'll get in touch with that stoney guy, i heard he's done the dmt thing.


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Re: Favorite hallucingen? [Re: Tangerines]
    #529122 - 02/20/11 04:12 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Hash is a crude product, much like that would yield...I'd still prolly barf. How people eat straight cactus, I dont know. :grin:


Getting some Mescaline Hcl is not much harder than extracting DMT. But you do have to evaporate from water, which can take longer.  :sleep:


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Re: Favorite hallucingen? [Re: Ombient]
    #529124 - 02/20/11 04:17 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

how unbearable is a mescaline water extraction?

ive read plenty of reports that claim its effectiveness, but they all emphasise how hard it is to get down


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Re: Favorite hallucingen? [Re: Ombient]
    #529125 - 02/20/11 04:18 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

I did a *very* small DMT pull. I had a LOT of trouble with the freeze precipitating. Everything kept getting reabsorbed into the naptha before I could drain it all off.

I got enough for me to use once though. What an experience!

I'll probably do mesc. hcl eventually. I'd do it with San Pedro though, obviously not peyote.

Also- I wouldn't do the iso extract simply because I want to store the finished product (at room temperature) and I'm not sure for how long. That, and, I assume its easier to guesstimate a dosage with the hcl and (relatively) know the potency. A ball of hash could be super intense, more so than I'm looking for.


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Re: Favorite hallucingen? [Re: RasJeph]
    #529126 - 02/20/11 04:22 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Never done freeze precip for anything other than a CWE...


Sitting the solvent in a pan outside works. Leave it for the day, come back and scrape up your goods. :shrug:


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Re: Favorite hallucingen? [Re: Ombient]
    #529167 - 02/20/11 07:09 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

For DMT? I wanted to use the naptha for more than one pull. And I didn't think evap would work? All the teks I was reading at the time suggested a freeze precip.


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Re: Favorite hallucingen? [Re: Shaggy420]
    #529203 - 02/20/11 09:22 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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TrippyStoner420 said:
how unbearable is a mescaline water extraction?

ive read plenty of reports that claim its effectiveness, but they all emphasise how hard it is to get down




Yeah the stuff is horrid.  Oddly I managed to keep mine down once I drank it, which I though was strange.


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Re: Favorite hallucingen? [Re: RasJeph]
    #529206 - 02/20/11 09:35 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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For DMT? I wanted to use the naptha for more than one pull. And I didn't think evap would work? All the teks I was reading at the time suggested a freeze precip.



http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/260765#260765

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Zippy said:
Hey man. DO NOT EAT THE FUCKING POWDER!

Do an extraction with this tutorial:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10089233/fpart/1/vc/1

FOLLOW IT EXACTLY. It is honestly easier than making cookies. Feel free to shoot me a :pm: if you have any questions.

P.S. The amount of bark you have may be enough to extract only 3 or 4 doses if you're lucky. To make pharmahuasca (the OTC version of ayahuasca) you're supposed to use extracted DMT crystals with an MAOI, not the MHRB. I've never heard of anyone eating bark. :rofl: If you want to go the natural way, make the ayahuasca tea out of caapi vine. If I were in your shoes, I'd just use 1/4 of all the amounts listed in the extraction tek and smoke the crystals. Or buy more bark online and do it right :shrug:



You beat me to it.:lol:

Here tho I thought it'd be cool to bring it here.

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AFOAF sent me these pics and instructions.  Please follow precisely for success:

Take 1 qt. Ball jar, add 600cc's cool, DISTILLED water.

SLOWLY add 100 grams 100% NaOH while gently stirring in WELL VENTILATED area.  Wear old clothes, eye protection, and maybe even gloves.  Water will get quite warm to touch...go slow...stir often...stay upwind...and ALWAYS add powder to water, never, ever add water to powder.



When basified solution is made and clears, measure out 100 G highly pulverized MHRB and add to jar of basified water.  Note:  Although the scale shows 50.24 grams of NaOH, the FOAF measured this out twice for a total of 100 grams, per accompanying text.




Place lid on jar and swirl to wet and "sink" all the powdered bark.  Solution will turn a dark purple-black.
Congratulations, you just finished the hardest part, which should have taken all of 1/2 hour if you previously macerated your MHRB.



Notice how we still have plenty of room to add VM & P naptha...LATER.  For now, set aside the jar in a secret, undisturbed place at room temperature for minimum of 24 hours to allow the basified water to break down the cell walls and release spice into solution.  Tick, tock, tick, tock...DING!

Ok...so, it has been 24 hrs since MHRB has been soaking in the basified water.  Time to add exactly 150cc's VM & P naptha to the jar.  Cap snugly and put aside in a WARM place, like a furnace room or atop some warm electronics.  Get jar to about 80 - 85 degrees.  Feel free to invert, roll, swirl and otherwise mix the layers together several times per day for one day...with this concentration NaOH no emulsion will form...unless you shake vigorously, which may result in an emulsion.  Swirling alone works quite well.



After 24 hours, your naptha will have a yellow cast.  This is GOOD!  Note:  Perhaps I should have said "mandatory."  A pale urine-yellow cast is indicative of migration of spice into the naptha.  You probably should NOT proceed to the freeze-precipitation step if your naptha remains clear.  It should look VERY MUCH like the two pictures below, before proceeding.



Use your turkey baster, and remove ~HALF the naptha, or 75cc's and place it in your 1/2 pint jar.  This will insure that you leave a nice layer of naptha without soaking up ANY NaOH water.  Don't worry one bit about the naptha left behind...you'll see why in a moment.

Note how CLEAN the naptha is.  No amount of basified water contaminant should be tolerated.



Cap the 1/2 pint jar and put it in the friggin coldest freezer you have.  I use an old meat freezer we keep in the garage.  Freezer should be cold enough to freeze ice cream solid.  24 hours later, you'll have crystals, like this on the bottom and sides of the jar.



Slowly, carefully pour the naptha back into the basified water, leaving the crystals, which will stick to the glass, behind.  Allow every pourable drop of naptha to exit the jar and you won't have problems with crystals re-dissolving back into any minor residual naptha as it warms.  Don't worry about the "floatie" protocrystals in the cold naptha solution you poured back...we'll get 'em all eventually.

Put the 1/2 pint jar aside to allow the crystals to COMPLETELY dry.  A nice dark, warm dry place where air is free to circulate is just fine.  It'll look like this:



When completely dry, use a razor on a handle to gather your powder, and transfer to a sealable baggie or whatever.



The residue in the 1/2 pint jar will be re-dissolved in another 24 hours when you again remove 75 cc's of "recycled and recharged" naptha from the basified water.  So...basically you will repeat and repeat and repeat the removal of naptha with the baster, freezing, etc. several times, until the yield really drops.  Please note that subsequent extractions will yield increasingly yellow product, in ever decreasing amounts.  This is normal.  I've taken to combining all powder.  You, of course, may do as you see fit.

As a final step, you can remove as much of the naptha as possible w/o getting NaOH, evap down and get the last drop of spice.

One you have the powder, I take it as a given that you know what to do with it!!!!  :rofl2:







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Re: Favorite hallucingen? [Re: RasJeph]
    #529213 - 02/20/11 09:58 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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For DMT? I wanted to use the naptha for more than one pull. And I didn't think evap would work? All the teks I was reading at the time suggested a freeze precip.




:orly:

idk I just evaporated from a pan. It was yellowish, but it worked. You can purify further, but I didnt bother.


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Re: Favorite hallucingen? [Re: Ombient]
    #529277 - 02/21/11 07:05 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Ah. The tek above is the exact one I used :cool:


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