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Marijuana Rant. * 1
    #509869 - 12/30/10 04:45 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Marijuana Rant. [Re: iStoner]
    #509877 - 12/30/10 09:44 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

This guy speaks the truth.


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Re: Marijuana Rant. [Re: Krackatus]
    #509900 - 12/30/10 11:36 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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This guy speaks the truth.




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Re: Marijuana Rant. [Re: Shaggy420]
    #509932 - 12/30/10 03:20 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

He understands making heroin and coke illegal?!  I hate people that stand up for pot but then say that they can sympathize with the illegality of hard drugs. 

morale of that story -

dangerous freedom > peaceful slavery

I really do wonder how many pot advocates think like this.  They are missing the point.  This is a fucking human rights issue.  Drug and pot advocates should be advocating human rights, not a particular drug they enjoy.  That's part of the fucking problem right there!


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Re: Marijuana Rant. [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #509943 - 12/30/10 04:10 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Furrowed you speak truth, but ive seen peoples lives get fucked up so much because of hard drugs.


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Re: Marijuana Rant. [Re: iStoner]
    #509997 - 12/30/10 06:21 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Is that the drugs fault? No, it's their dumbass in the first place.

I have stood by and will always stand by EVERY SINGLE drug being legal.


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Re: Marijuana Rant. [Re: Shr0000ooooms]
    #510011 - 12/30/10 07:26 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

well... curiosity killed the cat.

but the cat wanted to be curious and im sure as hell its not the needle's fault if it slipped in the cat's arm and some heroin got shot.


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Re: Marijuana Rant. [Re: iStoner]
    #510016 - 12/30/10 08:02 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Furrowed you speak truth, but ive seen peoples lives get fucked up so much because of hard drugs.




So?  Like shrooms said.  isn't that their own fault?  Shouldn't they be held accountable for their actions?  Is it the government's responsibility to educate us about drugs?  I don't really think so.  Why should I add my money to do something that parents should do themselves?  All drugs should be available to the public and harm reduction should be the policy.  We all know of the damage that addiction can cause.  You aren't the only one who has dealt with it or know people that have.  That's not an argument.  I doubt that is really your argument but I just wanted to add that since you added the 'but' in there as if to provide a contradiction to my statement.  But I have to ask...Do you fall into that category of not thinking all drugs should be legal?  I'm going to throw up a poll in a new thread for shits.


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Re: Marijuana Rant. [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #510037 - 12/30/10 10:14 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Furrowedbrow you're totally right man. Who's to say which drugs are ok and which are not ok to use? I still agree though with most of what this dude in the video says. Yeah he's only really backing pot rather than all drugs, but hes mainly directing his frustration at how alcohol can be legal given the current drug laws.


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Re: Marijuana Rant. [Re: Krackatus] * 1
    #510038 - 12/30/10 10:16 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I dont have much of a stance, but i do think all drugs should be legal.


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Re: Marijuana Rant. [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #510117 - 12/31/10 05:17 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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FurrowedBrow said:
He understands making heroin and coke illegal?!  I hate people that stand up for pot but then say that they can sympathize with the illegality of hard drugs. 

morale of that story -

dangerous freedom > peaceful slavery

I really do wonder how many pot advocates think like this.  They are missing the point.  This is a fucking human rights issue.  Drug and pot advocates should be advocating human rights, not a particular drug they enjoy.  That's part of the fucking problem right there!




People should have complete dominion over whatever they put in their bodies whether it's heroin, cyanide, broccoli or whatever- It's your body, you should own it, not the fucking  government. But if people use other arguments to get weed legalized I don't fucking care. I want weed legal and I don't care what method people use to get it done. I will lie and distort my own position it if it helps bring others to the cause. Social movements happen in baby steps. The slaves had to be freed before a black president was elected.

LEGALIZE IT!!!

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Re: Marijuana Rant. [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #510193 - 12/31/10 04:22 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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FurrowedBrow said:
He understands making heroin and coke illegal?!  I hate people that stand up for pot but then say that they can sympathize with the illegality of hard drugs. 

morale of that story -

dangerous freedom > peaceful slavery

I really do wonder how many pot advocates think like this.  They are missing the point.  This is a fucking human rights issue.  Drug and pot advocates should be advocating human rights, not a particular drug they enjoy.  That's part of the fucking problem right there!




I don't think this issue is about distilled drugs.
Marijuana is one of the few drugs that is used as is.
It isn't altered in any way and has no harmful side effects
Heroin and Cocaine have to be distilled in some way
and can kill you in high doses, that is the main difference I think

Marijuana is the MOST HARMLESS DRUG  anyone can consume....
can you say the same thing about heroine or cocaine?

We have to realize that marijuana is NOTHING like H or C

Politicians (and people like yourself) think that there is no difference in between weed and H/C and there is a HUGE difference in them.


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Re: Marijuana Rant. [Re: niteowl]
    #510210 - 12/31/10 05:50 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

:lol:  I am well aware of the differences between heroin, coke and pot.  Although them being 'distilled' is a new concept for me.  So what if there's a difference in them?  There's a difference between water, beer and grain alcohol too.  I don't think i understand your argument.


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Re: Marijuana Rant. [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #510242 - 12/31/10 08:44 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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:lol:  I am well aware of the differences between heroin, coke and pot.  Although them being 'distilled' is a new concept for me.




Both Cocaine and Heroine have to be processed (distilled) in order to get the 'drug' out of the plant. These concentrated (distilled) drugs are FAR more dangerous than Marijuana ever could be.

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So what if there's a difference in them?  There's a difference between water, beer and grain alcohol too.  I don't think i understand your argument.




Well ..... we regulate beer and grain alcohol :flowstone:

Im not saying that H/C should be illegal, just that you can't compare weed to them.

Trying to throw weed in the same category as H/C is retarded, and IMO is the main reason it isn't legal. Too many people try to compare it to harmful (distilled) drugs like alcohol, heroine or cocaine.....all of which CAN kill you.....weed can not.

Trying to compare weed to those other 'distilled' drugs is pointless and harmful to the marijuana movement


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Re: Marijuana Rant. [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #510251 - 12/31/10 09:06 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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FurrowedBrow said:
:lol:  I am well aware of the differences between heroin, coke and pot.  Although them being 'distilled' is a new concept for me.




Both Cocaine and Heroine have to be processed (distilled) in order to get the 'drug' out of the plant. These concentrated (distilled) drugs are FAR more dangerous than Marijuana ever could be.

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So what if there's a difference in them?  There's a difference between water, beer and grain alcohol too.  I don't think i understand your argument.




Well ..... we regulate beer and grain alcohol :flowstone:

Im not saying that H/C should be illegal, just that you can't compare weed to them.

Trying to throw weed in the same category as H/C is retarded, and IMO is the main reason it isn't legal. Too many people try to compare it to harmful (distilled) drugs like alcohol, heroine or cocaine.....all of which CAN kill you.....weed can not.

Trying to compare weed to those other 'distilled' drugs is pointless and harmful to the marijuana movement




Once again you show your ignorance while attempting to put others down. Coca is used indigenously, and while heroin is processed, it actually is not extracted, obviously opiates can be used without further process or extraction. Or as you would like to put it "distillation."

Either way you were missing the point.

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Drug and pot advocates should be advocating human rights, not a particular drug they enjoy. 




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Re: Marijuana Rant. [Re: THEBats]
    #510253 - 12/31/10 09:11 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

this:

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Either way you were missing the point.

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FurrowedBrow said:
Drug and pot advocates should be advocating human rights, not a particular drug they enjoy. 





 


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    #510260 - 12/31/10 09:33 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Once again you show your ignorance while attempting to put others down. Coca is used indigenously, and while heroin is processed, it actually is not extracted, obviously opiates can be used without further process or extraction. Or as you would like to put it "distillation."




:whatever:

I don't see anyone here chewing coca leaves or making poppy tea.

Wanna push to legalize the personal growing of coca and poppy pods......Im all for that. :super:

Processed drugs like powder/crack cocaine, meth or heroine are NOT in the same category as weed

:sorry:


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Re: Marijuana Rant. [Re: niteowl]
    #510264 - 12/31/10 09:45 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Stop using the point that Marijuana is harmless. As i agree its not bad, or as bad as what people think. But it is certainly not 100% harmless.


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Re: Marijuana Rant. [Re: iStoner]
    #510277 - 12/31/10 10:16 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, that's a fact - we all accept it and so does all of the brainwashed public.  it's like saying being burned alive is worse than taking a hot shower.  no shit.  :lol:


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Re: Marijuana Rant. [Re: iStoner]
    #510278 - 12/31/10 10:17 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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iStoner said:
Stop using the point that Marijuana is harmless. As i agree its not bad, or as bad as what people think. But it is certainly not 100% harmless.




I think it's harmless.


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