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Re: Growery: Lets have an honest talk about Marijuana [Re: perosiste]
    #223522 - 05/06/09 04:39 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

pero

good to see you back around


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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.


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Re: Growery: Lets have an honest talk about Marijuana [Re: Weed]
    #243650 - 06/28/09 02:26 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

im thinkin about printing like 50 copies of this out and putting it in mailboxes all over my neighborhood


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Re: Growery: Lets have an honest talk about Marijuana [Re: ttotheh]
    #243697 - 06/28/09 12:11 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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ttotheh said:
im thinkin about printing like 50 copies of this out and putting it in mailboxes all over my neighborhood



go for it!


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Re: Growery: Lets have an honest talk about Marijuana [Re: Weed]
    #268069 - 08/20/09 08:23 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Wow, great report! Many unbiased studies and even addressing the issues of those who oppose legalization. +Rep Please Sticky for a while at least =p


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Re: Growery: Lets have an honest talk about Marijuana [Re: perosiste]
    #268753 - 08/22/09 02:52 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Its madness that its illegal, to think the government wastes billions trying to fight a drug that 20% of the population is using regularly.


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Re: Growery: Lets have an honest talk about Marijuana [Re: Weed]
    #281421 - 09/16/09 09:32 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Preaching to the choir;)


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Re: Growery: Lets have an honest talk about Marijuana [Re: WinterRose]
    #281477 - 09/16/09 10:26 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Some of the choir members are really dumb though.


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Re: Growery: Lets have an honest talk about Marijuana [Re: perosiste]
    #293229 - 10/07/09 10:13 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Wow, what an amazing breakdown you have here. Very insightful work my friend. Im sure this topic has gained you a ton of respect including my own. Nice topic to make a first post!


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Re: Growery: Lets have an honest talk about Marijuana [Re: Keith22]
    #322697 - 11/28/09 05:36 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

learn to swim


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Re: Growery: Lets have an honest talk about Marijuana [Re: StormRider]
    #335887 - 12/24/09 03:16 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Weed said:
Update: A poster bellow wanted more sources for other claims, so I have included them here:

Marijuana already Is a multi-billion dollar industry. Hell, even in just British Columbia, it is a 7.5 billion dollar industry. In the US, it would be much higher:

http://www.medicalmarihuana.ca/tax.html





I have a story from the Sacramento Bee somewhere here about how Humbolt is the only county in California with a thriving economy. Well it was more about how evil the growers are but they said something like 200% increase in overall business in town since 215 passed. and thats LOCAL business, people stimulating the roots of this whole system not sending money off to some drug king who kills off families for their land so he can plant more of whatever.

When home values are plummeting and people are losing jobs left and right and you have a trend like that in one area can we afford to dismiss it?

Even if you don't think anyone should smoke this stuff you can't argue that the control system is broken beyond repair.


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Re: Growery: Lets have an honest talk about Marijuana [Re: Hydro]
    #347923 - 01/14/10 10:15 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Hydro said:
i do believe that smoking weed on a long term may cause a.d.d . anyway sure did for me . lol






makes my a.d.h.d. much better!!


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Re: Growery: Lets have an honest talk about Marijuana [Re: Tina]
    #347999 - 01/15/10 12:23 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Tina said:
makes my a.d.h.d. much better!!




heard this before from many different people.

i would recommend it


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Re: Growery: Lets have an honest talk about Marijuana [Re: Tina]
    #348068 - 01/15/10 04:39 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Tina said:
Quote:

Hydro said:
i do believe that smoking weed on a long term may cause a.d.d . anyway sure did for me . lol






makes my a.d.h.d. much better!!




Im pretty sure the weed just turned the adhd into add.


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[quote]hemostats said:
like i said before

quite simply, you are a nuisance while i am a smooth criminal.[/quote]







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Re: Growery: Lets have an honest talk about Marijuana [Re: perosiste]
    #348074 - 01/15/10 05:28 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

then how do you explain this?



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FurrowedBrow said:

They should teach african engineering at the college level.  mcgyver 101

Harry_Ba11sach said:

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?


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Re: Growery: Lets have an honest talk about Marijuana [Re: MFDoom666]
    #348105 - 01/15/10 11:50 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Besides smoking for recreation I also was diagnosed ADHD in 3rd grade and since I tuned 18 I haven't touched a prescription. If I feel myself getting antsy or having trouble focusing I grab a small toke and I am back to 'normal'

I also am not someone who feels my ADHD is any kind of disability too. It can be frustrating when you just want to go run around instead of taking a test but if you work with it and refuse to take the doctors 'advice' you can really get a lot done in a day.


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Re: Growery: Lets have an honest talk about Marijuana [Re: pha3r0]
    #348165 - 01/15/10 02:12 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

i was on ritalin when i was a kid for add and adhd.

fuck that shit and the doctors prescribing it.

green crack ftw.


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FurrowedBrow said:

They should teach african engineering at the college level.  mcgyver 101

Harry_Ba11sach said:

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?


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Re: Growery: Lets have an honest talk about Marijuana [Re: MFDoom666]
    #348231 - 01/15/10 02:59 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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MFDoom666 said:
i was on ritalin when i was a kid for add and adhd.

fuck that shit and the doctors prescribing it.

green crack ftw.




:thumbup::thumbup:

Has anyone seen The Medicated Child?  It was a Frontline documentary.  It discussed how doctors are diagnosing problem children with bipolar disorder and are prescribing them all sorts of anti-psychotic and other psychiatric medications.  It's fucking unreal how all these parents just let their child be given all these drugs that were intended for adults and have no testing done on long term effects on the children.  it sickens me that the fda and dea would allow that kind of shit to go on.  Oh the power of money.  George soros and the open society are doing good things on our behalf though.


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Re: Growery: Lets have an honest talk about Marijuana [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #348411 - 01/15/10 09:01 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

yeah no shit furrowed. one of my buddies tells stories about his teenage years.

he had a young pediatrician and when he got suspended for his first fight he gave him adderall then because he was jittery added ambien right before he went to school... long story short he got in trouble for sleeping through 9th grade and had to do extra work in 12th to make up his credits.

no child should be prescribed any medication unless it's to fight an infection thiere body can't treat itself. (don't intend this as a blanket statement as i am not a doctor but my point i think stands, we got this far without synthetic bullshit, what changed in the last 150 years that we need all these meds)


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Re: Growery: Lets have an honest talk about Marijuana [Re: pha3r0]
    #348565 - 01/16/10 11:12 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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pha3r0 said:
we got this far without synthetic bullshit, what changed in the last 150 years that we need all these meds)




Nothing... however, that doesn't mean problems didn't exist. We say they didn't exist because, at the time, they weren't actual problems. What we use our minds and bodies for now a days is extremely different to people 150 years ago. People would do their primary years and begin work. Specialization began when your nuts dropped.

In my experience, I have found that ADHD people are extremely talented at one thing or another. Some people are born or become (whatever psychological perspective you stand on) talented at one thing or another but lack the same superior skills in other fields - this was not a problem up until now. The sad fact is everyone is required to assimilate and participate in the same system that we have created for ourselves.

Specialization, I believe, is a natural occurrence. We all become good at doing something - usually because we like doing it. Some people, instead of being really good at one thing, are pretty good at multiple things.  However, when we are all expected to do well at the same things, I think that's where we see problems arise.

These medications exist to make people fit into the system.

Yet we are shocked when we hear that kids are being given meds? Why is this shocking? Sure it sucks, but unfortunately this is actually the world we want for ourselves. We want our kids to do well in school and have a good life - unfortunately to win the game (society) you gotta fuckin play.

When you make your life as unnatural as possible, create systems, and place values on things that in the grand scheme of things make no sense - then it is of no surprise to me, that we will see problems within human development and it is of no surprise to me we will find yet more ways to counter the ill-effects we've only bestowed on ourselves.

I wonder sometimes how much we are altering our own evolution because we posses bodies originally built for the natural world. Now we must adapt to an environment that changes faster than evolution can react.

Also, I can tell you first hand, modern standardized curriculums like the IB Diploma that are centrally moderated, are beyond anything our parents ever saw in high school. School curriculums such as the IB Diploma are so vigorous and difficult, that I cannot even begin to understand how we can justify a comparison of todays pupils to previous generations.

To me, it seems that we have created a world for ourselves that we can no longer handle naturally.

It is of no surprise to me these problems exist if they do, and unfortunately there does not seem to be much alternative to fix the problem without slowing people down.

With that said though, kids shouldn't be just jacked up on meds without some sort of counseling. As I understand it, proper psychiatry is accomplished with a balance of psychological counseling and use of medication. Medication acts as the short term and the counseling as the long term problem solver.


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Ok so let me bring you idiots up to speed.
The admins are tired of this shitfest being made the joke of the weed community on the Internet.


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Re: Growery: Lets have an honest talk about Marijuana [Re: TomCollins]
    #348577 - 01/16/10 11:55 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Extremely well written Spency and I couldn't agree more on your points.

I do wonder if conditions like ADD and even OCD is caused more by being pulled and pushed in so many directions rather then a naturally occuring disorder.

As for me and my family we decided years ago that moving away from the city and slowing ourselves down was not only good for our daughter but imperative to our health. With the stress of the grind and the worry about our young one gone we are again healthy and happy and our child is excelling in every aspect. It really is amazing how much less pressure you feel standing under a big blue sky as opposed to between two skyscrapers.


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