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 kidaihuan
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 Can you be patriotic and hate your government? 
#50477 - 06/04/08 01:51 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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implee
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 Re: Can you be patriotic and hate your government? [Re: kidaihuan]
#50480 - 06/04/08 01:52 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes, duh
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Picklez
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Re: Can you be patriotic and hate your government? [Re: implee]
#50484 - 06/04/08 01:56 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
implee said:
Yes, duh
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kidaihuan
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Re: Can you be patriotic and hate your government? [Re: Picklez]
#50490 - 06/04/08 02:04 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Then what exactly is there to be patriotic about?
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Re: Can you be patriotic and hate your government? [Re: kidaihuan]
#50491 - 06/04/08 02:08 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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You can love your country, and what it stands for, but hate who runs it. That simple/
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kidaihuan
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Re: Can you be patriotic and hate your government? [Re: master_shake]
#50523 - 06/04/08 02:51 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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What it stands for? You mean what the government tells you it stands for, via their own education system or propaganda?
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Picklez
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Re: Can you be patriotic and hate your government? [Re: kidaihuan]
#50526 - 06/04/08 02:59 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ah dont be a bitch America does a lot of good in the world also. That never seems to be included in these discussions
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kidaihuan
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Re: Can you be patriotic and hate your government? [Re: Picklez]
#50529 - 06/04/08 03:15 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
KillerPicklez said:
Ah dont be a bitch America does a lot of good in the world also. That never seems to be included in these discussions
Sure, I'll accept that...
...when you tell me what good it does.
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Picklez
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Re: Can you be patriotic and hate your government? [Re: kidaihuan]
#50535 - 06/04/08 03:34 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Go do your own research im not here to educate retards
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kidaihuan
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Re: Can you be patriotic and hate your government? [Re: Picklez]
#50540 - 06/04/08 03:44 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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You can't think of anything, can you?
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TheMantis
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Re: Can you be patriotic and hate your government? [Re: Picklez]
#50541 - 06/04/08 03:45 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fry: "Now here's a party I can get excited about. Sign me up!"
Apathy Party Guy: "Sorry, not with that attitude."
Fry: "Ok, then screw it."
Apathy Party Guy: "Welcome aboard, brother!"
Fry: "Alright!"
Apathy Party Guy: "You're out."
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implee
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Re: Can you be patriotic and hate your government? [Re: kidaihuan]
#50763 - 06/04/08 04:04 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Patriatism isnt "a love for your government" it can be a love for your city or country or a block on your neighborhood...
It can be a love for your country based off your constitution not just the government
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MFDoom666
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Re: Can you be patriotic and hate your government? [Re: implee]
#50773 - 06/04/08 04:07 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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here's a quote that i have on a refrigerator magnet.
A patriot must always be rdy to defend his country against his government.
-Edward Abbey
i dunno why i have this lame ass magnet but i do.
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They should teach african engineering at the college level. mcgyver 101
Harry_Ba11sach said:
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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implee
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Re: Can you be patriotic and hate your government? [Re: MFDoom666]
#50781 - 06/04/08 04:12 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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For sure man thats what its about. Thats why were allowed to have guns in this country, to take over the government in case it gets bad... (too late we fucked up)
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Brugman
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Re: Can you be patriotic and hate your government? [Re: kidaihuan]
#50814 - 06/04/08 04:23 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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You're trying to be argumentative and shit but really just look up patriotism?
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MFDoom666
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Re: Can you be patriotic and hate your government? [Re: Brugman]
#50820 - 06/04/08 04:32 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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no.
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FurrowedBrow said:
They should teach african engineering at the college level. mcgyver 101
Harry_Ba11sach said:
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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Brugman
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Re: Can you be patriotic and hate your government? [Re: MFDoom666]
#50828 - 06/04/08 04:44 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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no what?
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MFDoom666
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Re: Can you be patriotic and hate your government? [Re: Brugman]
#50837 - 06/04/08 04:53 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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no what what.
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FurrowedBrow said:
They should teach african engineering at the college level. mcgyver 101
Harry_Ba11sach said:
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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Brugman
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Re: Can you be patriotic and hate your government? [Re: MFDoom666]
#50839 - 06/04/08 04:56 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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k.
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MFDoom666
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Re: Can you be patriotic and hate your government? [Re: Brugman]
#50840 - 06/04/08 04:58 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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patriots love their country, not particularly the government.
if the man is fucking the country up the patriotic thing to do would be stopping those hozers at all costs.
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FurrowedBrow said:
They should teach african engineering at the college level. mcgyver 101
Harry_Ba11sach said:
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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Brugman
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Re: Can you be patriotic and hate your government? [Re: MFDoom666]
#50842 - 06/04/08 05:03 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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agreed.
patriotism is about the country, not just government, yeah.
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Re: Can you be patriotic and hate your government? [Re: Brugman]
#204623 - 03/11/09 01:35 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes, it is absolutely possible to be patriotic while still hating the government. To me being patriotic is an undying love of one's country. The United States in this case. A country is represented by it's people, not these assclowns that are routinely elected into office (not talking about anyone specific). I enjoy (for the most part) the people of this country.
I like how different people act in different ways in different parts of the country. I like the diversity (at least in the cities). Nothing would be more boring and ridiculous than an entire country full of clones. In this country you can go about your business and do things the way you want to and live your life the way you see fit, so long as nobody is harmed and no part of the government would ever know (they are not as far reaching as conspiracy theorists would have you believe).
Of course it isn't without flaws. No country is. One major problem that relates to the herb we all love, is the goddamn snitch. People who would turn on someone at the slightest application of pressure. It's to the point where a cop could drive by someone, mean mug him, and that guy would be ready to snitch out anybody and everybody only because he has no goddamn idea what to do if encountered by the police.
These..fuck it. We're all fucked.
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Re: Can you be patriotic and hate your government? [Re: Bad Days]
#204655 - 03/11/09 09:14 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm late and most of my points have been made. I just wanted to get in on this thread saying fuck the government!
Backing a government that is bad for your country is the opposite of being patriotic. There is no question about it.
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