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Nirvana Blackberry Indoor Hydro/DWC from seed
    #447148 - 07/16/10 03:25 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Hi all this is my first time postin to a forum since the fall of overgrow.com :frown:
But here goes. just got my nirvana blackberry today and am germinating them in paper towels now. this first grow will be 4 in soil and one in a hydro bucket, i will then take clones and do the rest of my grows in a diy dwc system that i am making. i have a few questions.

1. what is the best type of water 2 use in a hydro system (ie tap or should i buy some)
2.While changing res where do u put ur plant?
3.should i use superthrive on the seedlings or wait til i put in soil?





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Re: New Grow [Re: Mech8]
    #447169 - 07/16/10 05:04 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Welcome to the Weedery.

1.  You will want to buy water or filter your water in a hydro system.  You will need to be able to check the pH of the water.  2.  I do not understand the second question.  3.  I don't know.  Probably not necessary to use it I would just play it safe and save it but i might be wrong.


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Re: New Grow [Re: SmOakland]
    #447172 - 07/16/10 05:08 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

if ur buildin like a dwc where u dont have a res hooked up to the tank, and cant just drain it, then you just pull the net pot right out and if theres no roots hangin out the bottem, you just set it down but if you have roots hangin out the bottom u should just hang it up or hang it over a bucket of water.


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Re: New Grow [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
    #447176 - 07/16/10 05:16 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

thanks for the response so i guess the next question is what water should i buy and where do i hang the plant?


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Re: New Grow [Re: Mech8]
    #447201 - 07/16/10 06:17 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Use spring water. If you're changing the water I recommend just holding the plant in one hand, if it's in a net pot.


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Re: New Grow [Re: aerie]
    #447218 - 07/16/10 06:27 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

lol well if its a decent sized plant ur hands gonna get really tired really quick, plus its really nice to have both hands free. Ur gonna have to rig up some kind of rig to hang it from, could just be a few hangers with bent hooks at the end that you hook on to the pot on like 3 or 4 sides, get creative with it theres so many ways you could.

What i did is i took a piece of foam, just like the one in my DWC, and i cut the same size whole as what is in my DWC. When i change the res, i will put this piece of styrafoam over the top of a five gallon bucket, and simply place my net pot and plant into the whole. Well i have to so theres two wholes, but do you get what i'm saying?

Yo if you want to get cheap filtered water that is pH balanced (6.0pH), i would suggest going to a local fish store, they sell gallons of water for 25 cents a piece where i live. Or those little igloo stands where you just go and put a jug in and it fills it up. They're 25 cents per gallon to, just not sure if they're pH balanced like the ones from the fish store.


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Re: New Grow [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
    #447223 - 07/16/10 06:38 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

In my big DWC I put a water pump in the access port and pump out water that way. I also drilled a hole in the front and installed a faucet that I could hook up to a hose if I wanted.


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Re: New Grow [Re: aerie]
    #447336 - 07/17/10 12:40 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

yeah holding 6 plants in one hand and taking a 8-10 gallon rubbermaid tub into another room to dump and mix is kinda outta the question (not to mention all the cords and hoses that i will have to take with it) if the roots are hanging out does it have to be in water or can they be in the air while i change the res? as for the fish store i live in a small town and stuff for that or hydro is few and far between. so i am also workin with very limited supply. as for pumping it out i dont really have a place to pump it my house is really small and i dont really have a way to pump it to a drain even if i did do that it would be really noticable and i have a rental so i cant really drill holes or anything. plus im poor so im on limited budget hence the reason im makin my own and not buyin one and a couple grow tents. howeva my wal-mart does have a oasis water thing there where u fill ur own jugs with water would that work for my water?


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Re: New Grow [Re: Mech8]
    #447464 - 07/17/10 10:11 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I'm just constructing a hydroponic bucket using this thread I found on another cannabis related website. It's pretty good imo. http://www.420magazine.com/forums/do-yourself/65948-hydro-bucket-construction.html
:edit: The OP of that thread has some other good threads you should check out: http://www.420magazine.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1506070


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Re: New Grow [Re: CharlieD123]
    #447722 - 07/17/10 10:21 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

yo for drainin ur water for probably the cheapest just buy a fish tank syphon, u can get a good one for under 10 bucks. u can get if from walmart or just order it off the internet. if u dont have a walmart than wtf where are u egypt lol, but if not, and you have any kind of hardware store you can probably make one yourself. I'll make up how to make one off the top of my head for u that would work great. take a pvc pipe or a clear pipe like 1-2 inches in diameter and cut to 6 or 7 inches the bigger the diameter it is the faster it will drain.
then you get tubing that will fit inside the pipe, this should be cut to 2-3 feet. The thicker the diameter on this the faster the drainage again.
If you get a tube thats not quite wide enough to fit in the pipe then you can seal the open area with silicone or alot of ducktape, however you want to seal it.

And its built. The whole key to this is gravity, and to use this syphon you will have to have your resevoir  higher up then the bucket you are draining into. If your resevoir is at the same level as the bucket you are draining into it will not work.

To use you put the thicker plastic part into your resevoir, and you suck hard just for a second on the end of the thinner tubing but be careful when you see the water coming so you don't get a mouthful or nasty nute water. Then you just put the tubing into your bucket and let it flow. To stop the flow when your draining buckets full just plug take the plastic part out of the resevoir, or plug your finger over the end of the tube.

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Re: New Grow [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
    #447727 - 07/17/10 10:26 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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To use you put the thicker plastic part into your resevoir, and you suck hard just for a second on the end of the thinner tubing but be careful when you see the water coming so you don't get a mouthful or nasty nute water. Then you just put the tubing into your bucket and let it flow.




Alternatively sink the entire hose so that its full of water, then hold both ends shut, place one end in the bucket and release the holes, the water will flow by itself.


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Re: New Grow [Re: T-Rex]
    #448170 - 07/18/10 08:52 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

nice trex my buddy used to do that but i couldnt remember how, i hate gettin a mouthful of nasty water.


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Re: New Grow [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
    #448250 - 07/18/10 10:58 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Yea I learn't the hard way too, with a mouth full of fish shit flavored water hahahahaha


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Re: New Grow [Re: T-Rex]
    #448438 - 07/19/10 04:33 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

yum :projectile:


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Re: New Grow [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
    #449830 - 07/22/10 09:54 AM (9 years, 28 days ago)

ok today 2 of the young seedlings went under light. one is in a 2 gallon small dwc non bubble bucket that i made for a grow in the past. and the other is in a 17 qt flower pot. they are for the moment on strictly tap water wit superthrive i will do this until i have some healthy nodes and then got to water from the culligen machine at wal-mart. btw all seeds did germinate but the others are not out of the ground yet :frown: wonder what would keep the others from sprouting at the same time is this normal? this is the first time i have done the paper towel method with more than one seed. so the journey begins! oh and the one in the 17 qt is in miracle-gro with micro max. i know this is not the ideal soil but it is all i can get around here and to get a 1 cu bag of fox farm soil is $35 plus shipping and i got this at wally world for $10 what can i say im poor.


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Re: New Grow [Re: Mech8]
    #451256 - 07/25/10 05:21 PM (9 years, 25 days ago)

ok i have a prob. i have pretty much had this prob since i have moved into the house and i think it is the house. i have alot of nats they seem to only want to be in my grow area i have used organic bug spay to kill them off but nothing seems to be happening. i think they get in somewhere around windows because a wasp or 2 is know to get in. my question is how do i kill off the nats cuz they are getting in my nute water on the hydro grow. the other 3 have not come outta the dirt yet and i am starting to get worried bout them. pictures will follow soon. ive had some computer probs and the one i have now doestn have a card reader but i will have some soon.


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Re: New Grow [Re: Mech8]
    #451268 - 07/25/10 05:49 PM (9 years, 25 days ago)

I try to avoid pesticides whenever possible.  In my experience, fly paper/tape is an inexpensive and effective way of controlling flying pests: Victor Fly Catch Paper Ribbon


Beyond that, make sure your grow space and your hydro system is kept clean.  Clean thoroughly between uses.  Try to segregate your grow space from the rest of your living environment, especially from pets.  If using soil, use fresh quality soil for each new grow cycle in order to avoid added pest problems.


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Re: New Grow [Re: geokills]
    #451309 - 07/25/10 08:07 PM (9 years, 25 days ago)

grow room is separated for everything else. as for the nats they are only in there it is like they didnt even appear until my first all soil grow. but they are only in my grow room. :frown:


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Re: New Grow [Re: Mech8]
    #455880 - 08/06/10 03:26 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

is it normal for seeds that do germ not to come up?


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Re: New Grow [Re: Mech8]
    #455959 - 08/06/10 08:05 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

My seeds that never came up ended up being over watered. It's a newby mistake I made on my first grow that I'm doing now.


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Re: New Grow [Re: aerie]
    #455967 - 08/06/10 08:27 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

yep did that same shit my first grows, everybody overwaters, then learns not to. it just happens.  :ohwell: 

u only have to water a tiny bit when germinating, and when first sprouting. Get yourself a spray bottle, and only mist the soil like 3-5 sprays(the soil only needs to be moist, not wet), and then just let it do its thing. only spray it once a day and SCHABAM!!:tripmolecule: it'll sprout. lol not quite like that, but just be patient. it'll happen.

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Re: New Grow [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
    #459319 - 08/13/10 09:28 AM (9 years, 6 days ago)

i never watered em tho just started em in the lil dirt pellets i think it is them i will not be using them again


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Re: New Grow [Re: Mech8]
    #459455 - 08/13/10 03:36 PM (9 years, 6 days ago)

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grow room is separated for everything else. as for the nats they are only in there it is like they didnt even appear until my first all soil grow. but they are only in my grow room. :frown:




They were probably hiding out in the soil you used.  Get that fly paper I mentioned above.  A pack of four is only a couple bucks and it really works well if you hang a couple of them around your plants (just make sure to secure the papers so they won't hit your plants by accident, those strips are really sticky!).


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Re: New Grow [Re: geokills]
    #461987 - 08/17/10 09:20 AM (9 years, 2 days ago)

Ok i had some pics from when they were younger but the new comp can read sd cards, but anyway these are my ladies now. i tried supercropping on them in efforts to get more tops and more bud this went well on the hydro but on the soil no so much. i bent them down last night and this morning they were standing straight up. so i rebent them and the soil one snapped  in half so i guess i topped it instead. so tryin to save the top that i did not want to take off i dipped it in rooting hormone, dropped it in a rockwool cube and sprayed it down with a mix of water/superthrive. hope this saves it.



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Re: New Grow [Re: Mech8]
    #463498 - 08/19/10 09:56 AM (9 years, 16 hours ago)

ok so today i decided since the soil one was topped i would go ahead and top the hydro one since i am tryin to see what is best. and believe it or not the soil is winning by ALOT. so i topped it and made the top a clone i put it in the cloning chamber with the other top and the one from the soil was a little to big for the cloner so i topped it and made the top part of that one a clone. so now i have 3 clones (hope they all make it cuz that will make up for the seeds that did not come out of the ground). so now we play the waiting game, queue jeopardy music. lol


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Re: New Grow [Re: Mech8]
    #466527 - 08/24/10 12:02 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

7 days for the first one and it feels like its stuck in the cube but no roots yet. im gettin a little impatient so i planted 3 bagseed just in case. hope sumthin happens soon im rdy to flower. lol


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    #467728 - 08/26/10 10:32 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

so got up this morn and had some new growth on the the first clone so roots should be starting soon! :smile: the others aint drooping so they should follow. im so excited!


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Re: New Grow [Re: Mech8]
    #468611 - 08/27/10 06:39 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

ok so the bottom leaves on 2 of the clones started to curl and twist im not sure if this is normal or what but on the big one they where starting to die so i snipped them off which is kinda worryin me as there are no roots yet and that is less for the newgrowth to feed off of. but they seemed to be dead anyway so hopfully i didnt do more damage. on the smaller one i left the leaves on cuz they didnt seem as far gone and i wanted to give them as much food as possible. the new growth on the big one seemed to be closing up is that a problem? any help would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: New Grow [Re: Mech8]
    #469167 - 08/28/10 09:06 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

kk today begain 12/12 on the 2 that have been growing... i cut some clones from them b4 i put them in they are in the cloning chamber with the rest and hopefully they will do sumthin. is anyone even checkin on me anymore?


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Re: New Grow [Re: Mech8]
    #469220 - 08/28/10 10:49 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

lookin good. i cant wait to see the results with this strain


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Re: New Grow [Re: the man]
    #469324 - 08/29/10 08:16 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

ok this morning i went to check on my girls and the soil is lookin great she is so happy!!! and that makes me happy. but someone please tell me whats wrong wit my baby girl! just woke up to find her like this this morn some of the roots look healthy the rest are dangling some look like the tips have dried out.but it still looks bright green. the only thing i did was sit it in a bowl of its old nute bath while it changed its main nute bowl to flowering nutes. i tried to make sure the bowl had just enuff water in it to cover some roots and leave some to get air. it set out no longer than 30-45mins just time to give it a good clean and get the water ph'ed and nutes changed. she's not very happy with me right now :frown:

sry for the lines in the pic for some reason the cam i can use doesn't do well with hps. i've gotta get a sd card reader so i can use my good digital cam.



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Re: New Grow [Re: Mech8]
    #469331 - 08/29/10 09:09 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

i added 2 cups of just ph'ed water hopefully that will help until u guys can give me a hand.


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