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Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W Indoor Hempy Grow (Harvest Update 11/8!)
    #446539 - 07/15/10 01:40 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I've been slacking, time to get this log underway!

Twelve seeds were soaked in water overnight, then put into peat pellets the next evening.  Four were Joey Weed's C99 F2, the other 8 were bagseed collected over the last year.  Of these, all four C99 and 6/8 bagseed emerged on July 7 (one of the C99 actually took a full 1.5 days longer to emerge, but as far as counting goes, I'll be going from 7/7).

I left them in peat pellets for a few days before transplanting to solo cups of perlite.  They've been under 4 CFLs, 2x27W blue and 2x23W red, and have had a fan lightly on them from day 2.

Here's a few pictures from the night of Day 5:

The ones with orange tags are the C99.

On the night of Day 6, I fed them all a bit of Flora Nova Grow at 1mL/gal (2.5mL recommended for seedlings), and they seemed quite fine with that.  When I use up the gallon I've mixed, I'll step it up to 1.7mL or so.  Today (Day 7), I moved them under the 600W MH, about 36" from the bulb.  Temps are staying below 81F.  Here's how they look as of an hour or so ago:



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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #446557 - 07/15/10 05:20 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

well if God cant do it then who can ?


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: grod31]
    #446684 - 07/15/10 12:21 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

jw what ur ventilation is? 81 f under a 600w is pretty good.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
    #446721 - 07/15/10 01:28 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I have a 450CFM vortex dialed down to about 70% with a temperature-controlled triac.  I can probably get away with ~50% normally, but it's the hottest point in summer here.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #446734 - 07/15/10 02:02 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

nice bet that was pricey. ya i kno what ur sayin, 106 degrees today where im at. im strugglin just to keep my area 85 degrees.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
    #446760 - 07/15/10 02:53 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I've been slowly purchasing equipment over the last couple years in preparation, so it's been like buying a piece of grow equipment instead of a bag every once in a while.  Temp-control ended up not being necessary so far, and a normal triac can be had for <$25, so if you need fan speed control, it's not a bad option.  Though it sounds like you might need to be running full-blast right now...

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106 degrees




Ouch.  I feel for you.

I've been running the lights 20/4, with the 4 off being from noon-4pm, the hottest point in the day.  Seems to keep my apartment cooler, if anything :shrug:


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #446805 - 07/15/10 07:00 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Are you still running the floros or using the 600?


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: SmOakland]
    #446826 - 07/15/10 08:38 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I switched to the 600 MH a couple days ago, but they're about 3' away from the bulb.  Going to slowly move it closer over the next week or two as they can handle it.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #447385 - 07/17/10 03:58 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Day 10

I've fed a couple times now with the 1mL/gal solution of Grow, skipping every other day (not really counting here or anything, just going by weight of cup).  Also, the light has been lowered a few inches each day, so the plants are now about 28" from the glass.  Temps 73-84F.  Overall everyone seems happy:



They look a little darker than I expected (could be due to early feeding regimen), except for B1 ("B" for "bagseed"; B1 is the last picture in the OP), which also is the tallest and has the thinnest leaves:



B2 is probably the second largest, after B1, and is looking more indica, with perhaps the thickest leaves of the lot:



Here's the only other bagseed I bothered to photograph:



And here are all four C99:




C4 emerged from the peat pellet about 1.5 days after the rest, and it's really apparent.  Still, it has no issues with the HID or the feeding schedule so far.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #449115 - 07/21/10 01:55 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Week 2



Seedlings aren't very exciting, but a few things are going on.  The light's now down to ~20" from the plants, and temps are still staying <85F.  I was noticing a bit of potential N-deficiency in a few of the faster growers, so I went ahead and gave them all their first real Hempy watering (watering until a bit runs out the holes), though still at 1mL/gal.  I'll update again next Wednesday, or if something notable happens.





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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #452566 - 07/28/10 05:39 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

Week 3

Last Thursday night, everyone was topped:



and tied down:



and perked up within a few hours:




Now, about 5 days (and one feeding of Grow at 4mL/gal) later, they're looking great:









This last one is a bit weird looking, I think parts of the lateral growth tips got pinched off in the process of topping the axial tip.  At first I thought it might have accidentally been FIM'd, but now I'm not so sure:



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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #455828 - 08/06/10 12:49 PM (9 years, 16 days ago)

Week 4

A little late in updating, real life interfered for a bit.
I transplanted into 4 gallon buckets on Monday, and all of the following photos are from Thursday.





Here they are all tied down:



And here's the first confirmed boy (such a shame, a good-looking plant):



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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #456468 - 08/07/10 05:49 PM (9 years, 14 days ago)

ahh dam those males! only one i had was on a 5 footer we had outdoors and ahh i was soo pissed. Those plants look really healthy and happy. so at 4 weeks the males are that noticeable? i think maybe i'm in the clear then


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #471570 - 09/02/10 11:01 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

It's been a while, but I'm back.  Pictures were being taken the whole time, the better of which I've saved for you guys.  They will be presented in a poorly-labeled, but chronological, format.











Whew!  So that's about three weeks of growth, starting after my previous post through last Sunday (Aug 29).
Notable things:
-At this point, three males have been culled.  In the 7th picture above, the plant at bottom right was also confirmed male, and culled a few days ago.
-The 8th picture above obviously shows some nutrient/pH issue.  It's the only plant with any problems.  Mg deficiency?  I don't know, and haven't had time to do much.  I'll probably flush it within the next few days.
-Obviously, some clones were taken.  They look sad in these pictures, but they've perked up since.  There is of course a humidity dome, but it was removed for photos.
-The last picture shows everyone as of Sunday morning.  Things are a bit out of control.
-At this point I'm feeding them at 10 mL Grow/gallon.  They seem happy with that, with just a hint of burn here and there.  Perfect!

Since then, the 4th male has been culled, leaving six females: four bagseed and two C99.  Sadly, the two male C99 were the ones that smelled particularly fruity, and I've no room for breeding.  I still have six more seeds to pop, though.


Group shot as of a few hours ago, everyone looking tidy.  Back row from left to right: B1, B4, C2.  Front row: B6, B5, C1, clones.
B1 is by far the most sativa phenotype, lanky with a very fruity smell.  She's going to be a late finish, and difficult to keep tied down.  B4 is the most indica: widest leaves, shortest internodes, and first to sex.  B6 is a strong grower, a plant I'll be happy to flower again, but nothing super distinguishable about her.  B5 is the one with the "Mg deficiency," and has been a bitch from the start: slowest grower under my light, and the only one to react poorly so far.  Will require phenomenal bud to repeat.  C1 & C2, the two Cindys, are easy to confuse.  The C99 line is, from what I understand, pretty inbred and therefore relatively uniform.  One thing I can say for them both: they drink faster than the other four, and still show signs of N deficiency.  I would probably up them to 12 mL/gal next time, but we'll be flowering before next feeding so things will change.

Anyway, here's some more from a few hours ago:


Clones.  Nuff said.
The "Mg def" has progressed from the last picture, but only in the ~4 leaves that have been exhibiting symptoms.  All new growth seems healthy and is growing faster than it has before.
Supercropped!  That's one of C1's main branches, and it refused to bend where I wanted it, so I just crushed it.  Didn't even notice any slowing of growth or wilting of the leaves.  :thumbup:


One of B4's many growth tips, a hint of what's to come.
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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #471964 - 09/03/10 11:55 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

nice man. yo hows that supercropping workin for u?


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
    #472117 - 09/04/10 01:14 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

It's working surprisingly well.  Even though I've read many people say the same thing, I was somehow expecting it slow in growth for a bit, or get all wilty and sad.  But it recovered just as quickly as the other branches that were just LST'd.

Also, to answer your question from weeks ago, not all males will be sex-able in just four weeks; only my first of four males was.  The last one was culled at around seven weeks, though it had started looking kinda boyish at six weeks (I just wanted to be sure).


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #472166 - 09/04/10 04:01 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

ima give it a shot, ive got about 60 bud sites to experiment with. so what exactly does it do? i have one shoot that i folded while lsting, so i just smashed it a litttle more and taped it all up, but i don't notice anything diferent about it from the other branches. :shrug:


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
    #472605 - 09/05/10 12:30 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

I'm using it primarily for training purposes: I was having trouble LSTing one particularly thick branch, so instead of slowly trying to convince it to bend, I crushed the stem in a certain spot to make it flexible, then bent the branch at ~75° angle and tied it down.  Now the branch will heal at the same angle.

Some people claim supercropping provides higher yields, but I've never tried it before, so I can't vouch for that.  The defense I've heard in this area is something like, "the wounded location heals into a thick knot, potentially providing the branch with more strength and nutrients than its fellows, and allowing for greater bud production."  Sounds like shaky logic to me, but maybe I'll be surprised!


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #472699 - 09/05/10 04:03 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

hmmm i do have some reaaly stubborn branches that dont want to bend, so i have to do all crazy things to them, i have to retrain tonight, so i will supercrop a few and see what happens.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: kickin-two-hundo]
    #472943 - 09/06/10 02:26 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Hey man looks good.... Very clean...

Was wondering what your space is like (3'x3'? How do you deal with the hempy runoff?) and if you're going to continue with the Flora Nova line?


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: DudeTron]
    #473162 - 09/06/10 03:45 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks (though you should see outside the grow box :tongue:)

It's 4'x3' and starting to get a little cramped.  Six plants is pushing it, probably, but I like the challenge.

I really don't like dealing with runoff, so I don't always water to that point.  Usually I just dump a half gallon of 10 mL/gal Grow in each plant when they feel light.  That's enough to feed/water for ~4 days, but not enough to run off.  If the plants look like there's a salt buildup, I'll give them a slow or fast flush, depending on severity (Slow flush: water like normal, but with very little to no nutrients [0-2 mL/gal or so].  Fast flush: run ~10 gallons of water through, then water with 1/2 strength nutrients).  So far the only one with signs of nutrient problems is B5, and she's looking much better now with little effort on my part.

And yes, I will definitely be continuing with FN for now.  Very very easy, I like the one-part formula, and it's really not that expensive considering how far it goes.  My only complaint might be the amount of shaking required, but it's necessary to properly suspend everything; it's so saturated, it's like mud.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #473306 - 09/06/10 09:47 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Right on... Thanks for the info man. 
I'm trying to build a similar grow space. Was asking about the runoff thing cause I'm considering doing something drastic with the flooring to make my life easier in the future... Like vinyl and a floor drain or something..

Any other things you'd change if you were remodeling?
Sounds like your fan is pretty nice.... think you could handle a 1000w in your space with it?

And again man the girls look beautiful... You're really rockin the hempies too, got me thinking about it.
Are you flowering soon or did I miss it?  Can't wait man...


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: DudeTron]
    #473586 - 09/07/10 02:12 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for all the kind words, Dude.

I considered doing a floor drain too, but once the project got underway, I wasn't going to do more than I had to.  I'm glad now that I didn't bother, since I barely runoff, and remove the plants from the room to flush.  If you plan to runoff a lot, vinyl and a drain would be a nice time-saver.
If I do water till runoff (like if I'm going to be gone for a few days and wanna ensure they're well fed), I take two plants out at a time and put them in a tub (like a small tote/Rubbermaid).  I give them each about 3/4 of a gallon.  The last bit has to be done pretty slowly: it takes a while for the water to trickle through the perlite, and wick all over the place, so you can easily overdo it and then have to sit and wait while a 1/2 gallon slowly pours out.  Anyway, I catch any runoff (which should be very little once you get the trick down) in the tub.  No muss, no fuss!

If I were remodeling...
I'd make it a bit taller, ≥6' (it's only 5' now).  I'd frame the box with 2x2s instead of 2x4s, because they're unnecessarily bulky.  I might insulate the box better from sound, if money weren't an issue.

I think the fan could probably handle a 1000W, but I've never dealt with one, so I don't know how much heat they put out.  It seems like you'd want a bigger room, though, like 4x4', to take advantage of the light's potential.

I actually switched to flowering this morning, coincidentally.  Pics to come.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #473605 - 09/07/10 02:36 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)


First day of flowering!  After nearly nine weeks of veg, the real action can begin.


The "indica" bagseed, B4, is reeaaaally ready to start flowering.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #473728 - 09/07/10 06:10 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Man, great grow log! Those are some beauties!

I am about to start some Cinderella 99s, as well. Also, under 600w in a 3'11"x3'11"x6' tent.

How did you wait before you put them under the 600w? It doesn't say in the thread. Also, what cfl is your fan pulling and what size is your carbon scrubber, if you even have one?

I have an inline fan pulling 160 cfl max, but the scrubber's going to knock that down some. Are you pulling air from your cab through the light? Sorry for all of the questions. I am just trying to learn from others.

Thanks for the info that you have already provided, though.

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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: Cid_Lives]
    #473886 - 09/07/10 11:29 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for the compliments, mate.

I put them under the HID a week after they popped.  Some people start their seeds under HIDs, but that seems like unnecessary electricity to me.  It's a matter of slowly acclimating the seedlings to more and more light by gradually moving the light closer.  This might be helpful if you haven't seen it:


My fan moves 450 CFM, but I have it dialed back to about 70%.  I honestly think you'll have trouble keeping things cool with 160 CFM unless your ambient is like 20°C, especially with the filter.  I'd get a 250 or bigger, personally, but you may have no trouble.  Since you already have it, perhaps try the 160 and see how it works? :shrug:  (Is it the fan that comes with lots of the lights from htgsupply?  Just a guess...)

I do have a carbon filter.  I dun made it mahseff.  It's 6" inner diameter, 8" outer, and about 24" long.  I'll post pics/more info if people are interested.

My ventilation system is as follows:
air enters at bottom left; drawn across the plants with the help of oscillating fan to top right where carbon filter is; ducting, through the light; ducting, through the fan; outside room.

Feel free to ask plenty and any questions, that's like 50% of what this site is about!


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #474038 - 09/08/10 10:06 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for the answers, man.

I bought the fan from a local hydro shop and the guy there seemed to think that it would work fine for keeping the light and cab at a good temp. He also said that I could return anything and trade or refund it, so I'll see how well it works for what I have before driving back over there. I should be able to keep the temps in that room fairly low anyway.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: Cid_Lives]
    #475472 - 09/11/10 10:21 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Dam, you have a great setup. Should be a very nice harvest!


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: Goodtimesupnorth]
    #475630 - 09/11/10 03:49 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Great Journal, Bro
Can't wait for the next update
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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: MrsGreenThumb]
    #475950 - 09/11/10 11:48 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for the compliments, guys and gals!

Mrs.Thumb, I just paid you guys a visit.  It's looking really good, I wanna see pics of the flowering room!


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #475970 - 09/12/10 12:14 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

check out my log man, remember u were tellin me all about the supercropping and shit?


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #479586 - 09/19/10 02:58 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)


Bud porn of B4, the most eager flower-er, here at twelve days into flowering.  Make sure to expand it all the way and check out the early trichome production!


Here's a group shot as of yesterday.  B6, which is in the bottom left corner, was shortly discovered to be a hermaphrodite. (S)he was cut down a couple hours ago:







Things are starting to get pretty crowded, and it's hard to tell who's who, so I think it's high time for some individual photos.


The two Cindys, with C4 looking much more structured than her wild sister.


B5, the one I was calling a horrible bitch, has shaped up to be a nice enough lady.  She just needed a little flush and some love.  B4 is looking great, though this blurry picture doesn't show it.  The other shots of her in this post should do for now.


Last, but not least, the beast!  B1 is the monster of the box.  It was almost good news to get rid of B6, so there's more training room for this sativa giant.


Aaand the whole gang, as of an hour ago.  :thumbup:


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #479689 - 09/19/10 07:01 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Bushy girls.

Are you still doing any training techniques after the initial LST?


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: Cid_Lives]
    #479694 - 09/19/10 07:06 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

looking sexi!!!


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: MrsGreenThumb]
    #479705 - 09/19/10 07:30 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: Cid_Lives]
    #479757 - 09/19/10 08:52 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, I've been continuing with LST since the beginning, with the occasional supercrop.  I haven't bothered to move the light higher in about a month; anything that grows above ~12" from the glass gets tied down.  I'll keep training all the way until harvest, to varying degrees of intensity.  I'll probably move the light up a bit soon too, they'll need the room.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #481964 - 09/25/10 02:21 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #482321 - 09/25/10 09:37 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

the ladies are looking sexi!


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #482866 - 09/27/10 04:47 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Things are coming along nicely.


See?

Not much to report.  I've been tying down once or twice a week, keeping the tops >12" from the light.  The buds are really starting to pack on the weight and are already glittering with trichomes.  Except for B1, the stretchy sativa lady, who is only just now starting to put out pistils in excess.  Speaking of her, she's getting retardedly lanky, and I was running out of things to tie her branches to, so...



I put her in a restaurant bussing tray, used some 2x4's to hold her steady, and tied her longest branches to the tray.  Works like a charm!


That's C1, the second-best Cinderella.  She and her sister are starting to smell nice, sweet and citrus-y.


C4, the better Cindy.  Her structure is more filled-in.  They're otherwise almost the same.


B4, the "indica," looking a bit droopy here.  Her buds are the most progressed, as you can see below.


Finally, originally the underdog of the room, B5 has made a strong comeback.  She is sexy.  Check it:





And, as mentioned before, here's a couple bud shots of B4:


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #482926 - 09/27/10 08:27 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)



Looks like your starting to get a minor case of heat stress. I see leaf blades starting to rise. It could be other things too, toxic salt buildup, or lack of water. Most likely heat stress though.



And some kind of minor nute problem that could easily be fixed while its still early, not sure what it is.

They're looking good though and could probably still flower well with both of the problems without them being fixed, but it'd be a good idea to try.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: Laysthepipe]
    #482968 - 09/27/10 10:13 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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a minor case of heat stress & some kind of minor nute problem




It could be heat stress; though the room has stayed steady in temperature, I've slowly been letting them get a little closer to the light.  Still trying to get the setup dialed in.  I had the tops 18" from the glass at one point, I've worked them to ~12", so they may need a bit more room.

I think the nute problem you're seeing is burning.  I fed them a shitload.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #482975 - 09/27/10 11:11 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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It could be other things too, toxic salt buildup, or lack of water. Most likely heat stress though.





These other two problems come straight out of the grow bible on a heat stress picture, my thought was heat stress.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: Laysthepipe]
    #483521 - 09/29/10 03:35 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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lack of water




:thumbup: B4 was looking even more droopy when the lights came on yesterday, and the containers were pretty light (hers particularly).  I fed all five of them last night, and today they look great.  They each got half a gallon of water with 10 ml Bloom per gallon.  I'm going to have to tie them down again, they grew so much overnight!


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #485271 - 10/05/10 01:03 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Update, Day 28 of flowering.


Another hermie!  This one was B5, which was swiftly becoming my favorite of the bunch.  She had at least one male flower starting near the base of nearly every single cola; I'm not sure how I missed it this long!  The crappy picture on the right shows a blurry, already-opened male flower :eek:.  I think there's a small light leak in the room, but the other four aren't showing any issues.
B5 was cut down and processed into (a tiny amount of) gumby hash.  Smoked well, quite cerebral.

Anyway, moving on.  Here are the four remaining ladies as of today:

The Cindys and B4 are really starting to smell nice: they each have their own distinctive sweet scent, with the C99s smelling decidedly more citrus-y.


That's B4, who's been showing what looks like N deficiency for a little while, which is fine.  I just fed them yesterday, so they're still recovering.

Random bud porn:







And individual shots:


B1, looking absurd.


B4, still a bit droopy.


C1.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #487790 - 10/13/10 10:12 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Makin' it look easy, man. Everything looks really good, you'll be in for a nice harvest before you know it. I noticed the reflector you have, same one(s) I'm running, I think it works great for the price. Did you remember to take the sticky sheet off the reflector insert?


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: DieselB]
    #487817 - 10/13/10 11:17 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for the kind words, Diesel, good of you to stop by.  Yeah, I really like this reflector; even spread, no hot spots that I've noticed, and it's easy to take out the glass and change the bulb.  It's been a while since I got the light, my memory's fuzzy.  I seem to remember there being some sort of blueish protective plastic on the reflective surface, which I indeed would have removed (I hope! :crazy2:)


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #487882 - 10/14/10 09:56 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Hmmm. Maybe I should check mine for this plastic coating...


Nope. I'm good. I have a different reflector, though.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #487895 - 10/14/10 11:19 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, I completely ignored the first one until I noticed it peeling about 3 months into the grow.. I couldn't believe I missed that, and I'm sure it was costing me light output. I ended up having to take 30-40 minutes scraping it off after the grow because it was cooked on there.. Needless to say when I got the second one I took it off first, and amazingly it only took about 30 seconds on that one.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: DieselB]
    #487902 - 10/14/10 11:41 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

nice grow.. cant wait till i get cash to buy 1 of them grow tents so i can go all out with more then 2 plants in my flower box..:goodmorning:


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: lostinbq]
    #488020 - 10/14/10 05:58 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Honestly mate, I wouldn't bother with a prefab grow tent.  Just build something yourself out of plywood or b&w poly, you'll save money, so you can start sooner, and it'll be built to maximize the space you have. :twocents:


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #488046 - 10/14/10 07:41 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Here's a teaser update.


       
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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #488115 - 10/14/10 10:07 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Yummy, yummy, yummy I got hash in my lungies.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: DieselB]
    #488136 - 10/15/10 12:46 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

building your own tent may be cheaper, but buying a premade one is nice since it can be torn down and moved easily.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: Cloud9]
    #488197 - 10/15/10 11:49 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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building your own tent may be cheaper, but buying a premade one is nice since it can be torn down and moved easily.


true....
i did build 1. its 2FTx2FTx4ft. only costed me $40 with wood, cords, plugs, and maby lights too cous there cheep. maby $60. works good for now but the main reason i want one of thoes tents is that there more smell proof and a carbon filter would fit in there nicer. or i am thinking of building a 4FTx4FTx4FT box for a new flower and use the old 1 for veg. any 1 know of a small carbon filter that will fir in a 2ft square space... for CHEEP...


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: Cloud9]
    #488200 - 10/15/10 11:56 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I agree. I bought one and love it. However, I have a carpenter buddy that built one that works just as well, so if you have the skills, I say go for it.

God, they are really starting to look nice! Were those close ups of the cindys?


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: Cid_Lives]
    #488217 - 10/15/10 01:22 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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building your own tent may be cheaper, but buying a premade one is nice since it can be torn down and moved easily.



That's a very good point, portability/reusability is a major plus to a prefab tent. :thumbup:

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any 1 know of a small carbon filter that will fir in a 2ft square space... for CHEEP...



Now that you can make yourself :grin:.  Check out legallyhomeless' DIY Carbon Scrubber thread.  You can alter it to any size you want, change up whatever about it doesn't work for you (I couldn't find duct caps in a timely manner, so I made them outta cardboard :crazy2:).  It works great, and cost me ~1/4 what it would in stores.  Let me know if you plan to make one and need more help!

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God, they are really starting to look nice! Were those close ups of the cindys?



Thanks, I'm pretty excited!  Yes, those are of the Cindys.  I'll have to try to get some pictures in more natural lighting soon.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #489119 - 10/18/10 04:35 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Day 42

It's been nearly two weeks since my last proper update.  Despite a bit of a pH issue, the ladies have been packing on weight and are just glittering with trichomes!


B1:

That third shot shows her from the back.  I keep her against a wall at all times, so she's kept trained away from that area.  I'm starting to notice her smell more, so far it's light and sweet, "high-pitched," with a planty background scent.
She's starting to fill in pretty well, pistils coming in thick:



B4:

She's reeaaally starting to pack on the weight.  She also smells sweet, but a much more potent, dark, thicker sweet than B1.
Can you tell I cleared out some undergrowth?  I did the same to the Cindy sisters; that's where the hexane hash came from.

Here's some bud porn:



Cindy #1:

She and her sister are developing heavy buds; they're too heavy for their thin, spindly branches to support in many cases.  This isn't a big deal, as it's common to the C99 lineage, but it's a bit annoying.  I haven't yet thought of a good way to prop all of them up.
C1 is smelling sweet and fruity, maybe lemony, with a sharp, almost spicy background.

Buds:



Cindy #4:

She's much like her sister in most respects, though I like her a bit more.  She's growing more uniformly, and, while her smell is very similar to her C1's, it's perhaps a bit fruitier and sharper.

Buds:



And a couple group shots:


Here are some other random shots:


Those first two are of B4, taken a couple days ago. The third is one of the Cindys, showing the side growth coming in thick.


Another Cindy bud in the left picture.  On the right is B4 and B1, the most opposite plants in the room.  I like that picture a lot.


Aaaand a few pictures of the veg room, as a hint of what's coming up soon:

That's at least two clones of each plant in flower, and my 100W metal halide (note the jury rigging).
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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #489160 - 10/18/10 11:57 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

my word i say. looking nice despite the ph problem. triches are looking tasty. cant wait to see what they look like in another 18 days when you harvest...


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    #489186 - 10/18/10 02:17 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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cant wait to see what they look like in another 18 days when you harvest...



Me neither!  And it may not even be that long of a wait.  As far as I can find, Joey Weed and even Brothers Grimm have always claimed Cinderella 99 to be a 50 day finisher.  That sounds a little early to me, but I'm going to keep an eye on trichs, and aim for 50-55 days.  I fed them right after the above pictures, I'm hoping it's the last feeding for the Cindys and B4, and that I can start the flush in a few days.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #489342 - 10/18/10 11:53 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

nice lookin ladies and great picture taking :thumbup:


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: Smokey the Bear]
    #489375 - 10/19/10 05:24 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks, Smokey.

I just wanted to update again with a few pictures and info, not sure if I should be worried or not.  I fed right after taking those last pictures, and had flushed heavily instead of feeding last time.  When I checked ~10 hours later, B4 looked bad: lots of very yellow fan leaves, mainly.  I was a bit worried, but she's looked bad for a little while now but is still packing on the weight.  When I came back after another 12 hours, the two Cindys were yellowing up the same!  Here's how they look as of a few minutes ago:





I'm wondering if it's just that they're so excited to get food, they used a bunch to grow and make new bud/leaves, then started taking nutrients from fan leaves to keep up with new growth regimen.  I'm hoping it's that!  Tell me what you think.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #489472 - 10/19/10 01:05 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #490653 - 10/23/10 05:54 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Day 47

Things are looking much better than they were last I posted.  Here's a thread I made about it in DD, there's a bit more info there for the interested.  I figured it was a pH problem, so I prepped the ladies for a proper flush.
Thing is, they'd gotten pretty spread out, what with the training I gave them combined with the weight of their buds.  All this foliage in the way, mostly at or outside of the rim of the bucket, and a large portion of the interior space empty!  It was becoming difficult to arrange them close enough together to maximize the light's potential.  I still had plenty of vertical space, so I figured I'd just stake them up taller, towards the middle of the bucket.  They didn't look as nice as I'd like (they look pretty ridiculous, actually), but I arranged them so the largest buds get the most light.  Also made sure they're not too pressed together, so as to avoid molds (there's also the oscillating fan & myself rearranging them at every opportunity).
Anyway, I then flushed them with a dilute nutrient solution at pH 5.8, and the runoff was coming out at nearly pH 7 at the beginning.  Bleh.  After 5 gallons each, the runoff was down to pH 5.8, at which point I fed them.  I gave each plant a gallon with 7.5 mL FN Bloom and 1 tsp. blackstrap molasses, pH 5.8.  That was about three days ago.  Here's how they're looking now:

B1:



I actually didn't flush her, because she looked fine and it seems too difficult with the tray she's in/tied to (fed her a gallon like the others, though).  She actually hasn't been watered to runoff in over a month :eek:.  Looks fine to me, though!
I'm very pleased with how her buds are filling in.  Despite her sativa build, I expect relatively dense nugs.  All hail the 600W HID! :bow:

B4:



Despite still being the saddest bitch of the bunch, B4 has the burliest nugs!  They're dense and (obviously) good sized.  That 5 incher is the third or fourth biggest, but the most photogenic/accessible.  The largest I could find is ~6.5" when straightened out, but I have trouble holding it straight and photographing simultaneously (noodley appendages FTL), so I'll take proper pics upon harvest.
That deep, dank smell is increasing, as are the trichomes.  Speaking of, I've only seen a couple amber ones so far.  Many are cloudy, so it should be soon.

C1:



Mmmmm MMMMMM!  I'm very excited about this plant.  I think she'll produce noticeably more than her sister, but time will tell.
She's really picked up the pace in the last two weeks.  I checked today and saw a good number of amber trichs (10%?  Enough to notice.)  I probably won't feed her again, just water with molasses at pH 5.8.  Supposed to be a 50 day finisher, and looks like this pheno might nearly live up to that claim!  A keeper, for sure.

C4:



Sorry about the lack of bud shots, I have others (which I'll post below), but I'm not sure if they're from C1 or C4.  I know I have some from both, but I'm pretty disorganized :facepalm:.  Stay tuned, they're still tasty despite their anonymity.
Blah blah, anyway.  C4.  What can I say, she's exactly like her sister, if potentially smaller, and a bit slower (no amber trichs yet).  C99 has a very homogeneous seed lot, even as F2s.  I hope to find some varying phenotypes in smell/taste, but so far these seem the same in that realm.

Errbody:



And here are those anonymous Cindy shots:



Those last three were taken on the 19th with the ones in my previous post.  The buds themselves still looked quite nice, despite the fan leaves' symptoms.



Lastly, since I haven't shown it yet, here are some shots of the upper half of the flowering room, where all the mess is kept:


Better angle of the DIY scrubber, and the inside of the HID (IDK why):

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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #492533 - 10/27/10 08:18 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Day 51

After looking closely at the trichomes on the three main girls (not B1, she barely has trichs at all and probably needs another month), I decided to start the flush for all of them.  Cindys are supposed to finish in 50 days, and the other one seems pretty indica, so it's about that time, and I've seen about 10% amber trichs on all three.  So on Tuesday morning I gave them each a couple gallons of water with 1.5 tsp blackstrap molasses, pH 5.8
Here's how they looked right before that:


That's the two Cindys in the front (C4 on the left, I think), B4 in back left, and B1 back right.



First one Cinderella, then the other.


Obviously B4 in the first one, and B1 in the last two.


And here's how they looked 36 hours later.  I was just able to snag these shots right after lights out; a bunch were deleted due to hasty blurriness, so this is all I've got:


I think the Cindys switched places.


They're maybe starting to yellow up a bit.  It'll be more dramatic in a couple days.


And here's another glimpse of what's to come:


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #495894 - 11/07/10 02:10 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Hey God, with all the help you've given me on my grow I wanted to check yours out and I've gotta say it looks amazing! Any updates yet? Havest anything yet?

Keep us posted!


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: jkell]
    #496401 - 11/08/10 03:28 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Hey jkell, thanks for the interest.  I'm glad you asked, I guess it's about time for another update, huh?

Here are a few pictures from about five days after the last set above (so that'd be the morning of Nov 2, Day 57):




Some bud shots from the same time; the first four are of some C99, the last four are of B4:











And here are some pictures right before harvest of each one.

Cinderella 99 #1, harvested Nov 4, Day 59:

(I know that last picture is blurry, but I wanted to show the color the leaves were changing to during the flush.)


Cinderella 99 #4, harvested Nov 6, Day 61:



Bagseed #4, Harvested Nov 7, Day 62:



The C99s both yielded a whole lot of small buds, and a good bit of minuscule popcorn, which will make fine hash.  It looks like it's going to be a pretty slim harvest with these two.  It seems like they have more potential, but a combination of factors limited its output.  I think this strain is better suited to a minimalistic training regime, as it already has a tendency to be branched and lanky, and has trouble supporting itself with its thin stems.  Lollipop SOG, topping, FIMing, or minimal LST are what I have in mind for the future.

B4 is a different story.  She can handle plenty of training and still produce large colas.  Still, I think I'm going to treat her the same as the Cindys next time around and see if I can get some nice fat colas.


Speaking of colas, here's a few more pictures:

B4:







C1:




That's everything I've got for now!  I'll update again soon, once I have dry weights of these three.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #496470 - 11/08/10 07:04 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

i appreciate your in-depth chronicling of this grow.  i am learning much, to better the output of my first grow attempt with some bag seeds.


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    #496493 - 11/08/10 08:48 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks dude, that's cool to hear.  Have you started your bagseed grow yet?  Make sure to start up a journal on here when you do.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #496526 - 11/08/10 11:34 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Looks great God :thumbup:, Sorry to here about the popcorn cindy, bet its still some good stuff. Throw up the weights when you get them.  :bigblunt:


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: jkell]
    #497578 - 11/13/10 03:01 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

The yield was smaller that I'd hoped, and much lower than this closet can produce, but I think I've got it mostly dialed in and am ready for round two.
Included in the "trim" are some pretty solid buds that I'd probably buy without question, but they were too small to bother trimming.  I'll be turning most of this into hash, and vaporizing and baking with some of it.  I'll update you guys on the hash part at least.

Anyway, here are the dry weights:

C1=29g bud, 22g trim
C4=21g bud, 20g trim
B4=41g bud, 14g trim

Tot=3.2oz bud, 2oz trim



So I'm a bit disappointed, but not that much.  This much bud would have cost me $1000-$1500, depending on how I bought it, not to mention the trim!  I estimate I've spent about $1500+labor preparing this grow, electricity, equipment, etc.  So I've pretty much already broken even.
:feelsgoodman:

I know the Cindys in particular can produce much more, if grown correctly.  I had some issues with feeding/pH, and with training.  I'm going to try smaller pots with less lateral growth and more support.  B4 obviously has a much higher calyx:leaf ratio, though many of its leaves had died off in the flush.  Both of these factors made it easier to trim, making it a keeper.  I've found a couple seeds, so I thought she was a late-blooming hermie.  However, I've found no male parts on her, leading me to believe that she was pollinated by the hermie I removed earlier in the season, which had only a few bananas, but one or two were just opening.

I'll update this still from time to time with news on B1 the monster sativa, and whatever hash comes from this project.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #497645 - 11/13/10 10:31 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

great pics  :bow2:


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: doublehelix]
    #497736 - 11/13/10 11:30 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

well God, i haven't started my grow yet bc i am still trying to convince my wife.  unbeknownst to her, i am still researching and pricing out the necessities.  i may be starting a new well-paying job soon and i think that will be the fulcrum of my argument to my favor.  when she does finally consent, i will definitely chronicle my grow journal on here.  it will be 2 or 4 seeds.  i am hoping to start it all by mid-december.  :grin:


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: goldennic007]
    #497750 - 11/13/10 12:47 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Cool nic, good luck, I hope everything goes well.  My advice regarding your wife: keep her informed and don't wheedle/"convince" her, or it'll always be that little (read: BIG) thing she'll be unsure of, and it's no fun to worry unnecessarily.  If she understands that you'll not only save money, but actually be safer if you do it right, she may be more inclined to want to be actively involved (you'd be safer because you wouldn't have to drive around with weed all the time when you go buy it, and if you contain the smell and don't tell anyone, no one will know).  Does she smoke herb?


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #497761 - 11/13/10 01:43 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

she only smokes two or three times a year, and not if its dank.  she likes mids. you make good points and i have communicated a few of them.  in addition, shes starting to detest the idea of cannabis in general (except medicinal but thats not legal here yet), so i have that to contend and her fear of the legalities.  :rolleyes:


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    #497782 - 11/13/10 04:27 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Sounds like you've got a bit of a struggle ahead of you, mate.  She's against cannabis solely because it's illegal, or she also personally dislikes getting high?


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: goldennic007]
    #497792 - 11/13/10 04:57 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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well God, i haven't started my grow yet bc i am still trying to convince my wife.  unbeknownst to her, i am still researching and pricing out the necessities.  i may be starting a new well-paying job soon and i think that will be the fulcrum of my argument to my favor.  when she does finally consent, i will definitely chronicle my grow journal on here.  it will be 2 or 4 seeds.  i am hoping to start it all by mid-december.  :grin:



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she only smokes two or three times a year, and not if its dank.  she likes mids. you make good points and i have communicated a few of them.  in addition, shes starting to detest the idea of cannabis in general (except medicinal but thats not legal here yet), so i have that to contend and her fear of the legalities.  :rolleyes:




Formula for disaster.  Women and illegal activity don't mix well, especially if you live in a non-medical state.  If you want a hobby brew some beer, start a vegetable garden, lift some weights or something.  Your wife sounds like trouble.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: SmOakland]
    #497803 - 11/13/10 05:58 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

God, she doesn't mind other people possessing or consuming cannabis, she minds me being a possessor, consumer, and/or cultivator. 

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Formula for disaster.  Women and illegal activity don't mix well, especially if you live in a non-medical state.  If you want a hobby brew some beer, start a vegetable garden, lift some weights or something.  Your wife sounds like trouble.


 
i chuckled when i read that, and in most cases your are absolutely correct, but i sense in my case she just hasn't warmed upto the idea of the finer points God made (and i reiterated).  so i am being patient for our circumstances to improve and she feels safer and more comfortable with the idea of me growing.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: goldennic007]
    #497848 - 11/13/10 09:51 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Seems like pretty good weights to me, and I bet you do got everything dialed in. Can't wait to see your next go God! :thumbup::ganja:


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