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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: DudeTron]
    #473162 - 09/06/10 05:45 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks (though you should see outside the grow box :tongue:)

It's 4'x3' and starting to get a little cramped.  Six plants is pushing it, probably, but I like the challenge.

I really don't like dealing with runoff, so I don't always water to that point.  Usually I just dump a half gallon of 10 mL/gal Grow in each plant when they feel light.  That's enough to feed/water for ~4 days, but not enough to run off.  If the plants look like there's a salt buildup, I'll give them a slow or fast flush, depending on severity (Slow flush: water like normal, but with very little to no nutrients [0-2 mL/gal or so].  Fast flush: run ~10 gallons of water through, then water with 1/2 strength nutrients).  So far the only one with signs of nutrient problems is B5, and she's looking much better now with little effort on my part.

And yes, I will definitely be continuing with FN for now.  Very very easy, I like the one-part formula, and it's really not that expensive considering how far it goes.  My only complaint might be the amount of shaking required, but it's necessary to properly suspend everything; it's so saturated, it's like mud.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #473306 - 09/06/10 11:47 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Right on... Thanks for the info man. 
I'm trying to build a similar grow space. Was asking about the runoff thing cause I'm considering doing something drastic with the flooring to make my life easier in the future... Like vinyl and a floor drain or something..

Any other things you'd change if you were remodeling?
Sounds like your fan is pretty nice.... think you could handle a 1000w in your space with it?

And again man the girls look beautiful... You're really rockin the hempies too, got me thinking about it.
Are you flowering soon or did I miss it?  Can't wait man...


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: DudeTron]
    #473586 - 09/07/10 04:12 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for all the kind words, Dude.

I considered doing a floor drain too, but once the project got underway, I wasn't going to do more than I had to.  I'm glad now that I didn't bother, since I barely runoff, and remove the plants from the room to flush.  If you plan to runoff a lot, vinyl and a drain would be a nice time-saver.
If I do water till runoff (like if I'm going to be gone for a few days and wanna ensure they're well fed), I take two plants out at a time and put them in a tub (like a small tote/Rubbermaid).  I give them each about 3/4 of a gallon.  The last bit has to be done pretty slowly: it takes a while for the water to trickle through the perlite, and wick all over the place, so you can easily overdo it and then have to sit and wait while a 1/2 gallon slowly pours out.  Anyway, I catch any runoff (which should be very little once you get the trick down) in the tub.  No muss, no fuss!

If I were remodeling...
I'd make it a bit taller, ≥6' (it's only 5' now).  I'd frame the box with 2x2s instead of 2x4s, because they're unnecessarily bulky.  I might insulate the box better from sound, if money weren't an issue.

I think the fan could probably handle a 1000W, but I've never dealt with one, so I don't know how much heat they put out.  It seems like you'd want a bigger room, though, like 4x4', to take advantage of the light's potential.

I actually switched to flowering this morning, coincidentally.  Pics to come.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #473605 - 09/07/10 04:36 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)


First day of flowering!  After nearly nine weeks of veg, the real action can begin.


The "indica" bagseed, B4, is reeaaaally ready to start flowering.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #473728 - 09/07/10 08:10 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Man, great grow log! Those are some beauties!

I am about to start some Cinderella 99s, as well. Also, under 600w in a 3'11"x3'11"x6' tent.

How did you wait before you put them under the 600w? It doesn't say in the thread. Also, what cfl is your fan pulling and what size is your carbon scrubber, if you even have one?

I have an inline fan pulling 160 cfl max, but the scrubber's going to knock that down some. Are you pulling air from your cab through the light? Sorry for all of the questions. I am just trying to learn from others.

Thanks for the info that you have already provided, though.

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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: Cid_Lives]
    #473886 - 09/08/10 01:29 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the compliments, mate.

I put them under the HID a week after they popped.  Some people start their seeds under HIDs, but that seems like unnecessary electricity to me.  It's a matter of slowly acclimating the seedlings to more and more light by gradually moving the light closer.  This might be helpful if you haven't seen it:


My fan moves 450 CFM, but I have it dialed back to about 70%.  I honestly think you'll have trouble keeping things cool with 160 CFM unless your ambient is like 20°C, especially with the filter.  I'd get a 250 or bigger, personally, but you may have no trouble.  Since you already have it, perhaps try the 160 and see how it works? :shrug:  (Is it the fan that comes with lots of the lights from htgsupply?  Just a guess...)

I do have a carbon filter.  I dun made it mahseff.  It's 6" inner diameter, 8" outer, and about 24" long.  I'll post pics/more info if people are interested.

My ventilation system is as follows:
air enters at bottom left; drawn across the plants with the help of oscillating fan to top right where carbon filter is; ducting, through the light; ducting, through the fan; outside room.

Feel free to ask plenty and any questions, that's like 50% of what this site is about!


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #474038 - 09/08/10 12:06 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the answers, man.

I bought the fan from a local hydro shop and the guy there seemed to think that it would work fine for keeping the light and cab at a good temp. He also said that I could return anything and trade or refund it, so I'll see how well it works for what I have before driving back over there. I should be able to keep the temps in that room fairly low anyway.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: Cid_Lives]
    #475472 - 09/11/10 12:21 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Dam, you have a great setup. Should be a very nice harvest!


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: Goodtimesupnorth]
    #475630 - 09/11/10 05:49 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Great Journal, Bro
Can't wait for the next update
You should check out me and my husbands : Jilly bean/Pandora


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: MrsGreenThumb]
    #475950 - 09/12/10 01:48 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the compliments, guys and gals!

Mrs.Thumb, I just paid you guys a visit.  It's looking really good, I wanna see pics of the flowering room!


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #475970 - 09/12/10 02:14 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

check out my log man, remember u were tellin me all about the supercropping and shit?


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #479586 - 09/19/10 04:58 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)


Bud porn of B4, the most eager flower-er, here at twelve days into flowering.  Make sure to expand it all the way and check out the early trichome production!


Here's a group shot as of yesterday.  B6, which is in the bottom left corner, was shortly discovered to be a hermaphrodite. (S)he was cut down a couple hours ago:







Things are starting to get pretty crowded, and it's hard to tell who's who, so I think it's high time for some individual photos.


The two Cindys, with C4 looking much more structured than her wild sister.


B5, the one I was calling a horrible bitch, has shaped up to be a nice enough lady.  She just needed a little flush and some love.  B4 is looking great, though this blurry picture doesn't show it.  The other shots of her in this post should do for now.


Last, but not least, the beast!  B1 is the monster of the box.  It was almost good news to get rid of B6, so there's more training room for this sativa giant.


Aaand the whole gang, as of an hour ago.  :thumbup:


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #479689 - 09/19/10 09:01 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Bushy girls.

Are you still doing any training techniques after the initial LST?


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: Cid_Lives]
    #479694 - 09/19/10 09:06 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

looking sexi!!!


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: MrsGreenThumb]
    #479705 - 09/19/10 09:30 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

sucks about the hermie man


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: Cid_Lives]
    #479757 - 09/19/10 10:52 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, I've been continuing with LST since the beginning, with the occasional supercrop.  I haven't bothered to move the light higher in about a month; anything that grows above ~12" from the glass gets tied down.  I'll keep training all the way until harvest, to varying degrees of intensity.  I'll probably move the light up a bit soon too, they'll need the room.


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #481964 - 09/25/10 04:21 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)


:awecid:


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #482321 - 09/25/10 11:37 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

the ladies are looking sexi!


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #482866 - 09/27/10 06:47 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Things are coming along nicely.


See?

Not much to report.  I've been tying down once or twice a week, keeping the tops >12" from the light.  The buds are really starting to pack on the weight and are already glittering with trichomes.  Except for B1, the stretchy sativa lady, who is only just now starting to put out pistils in excess.  Speaking of her, she's getting retardedly lanky, and I was running out of things to tie her branches to, so...



I put her in a restaurant bussing tray, used some 2x4's to hold her steady, and tied her longest branches to the tray.  Works like a charm!


That's C1, the second-best Cinderella.  She and her sister are starting to smell nice, sweet and citrus-y.


C4, the better Cindy.  Her structure is more filled-in.  They're otherwise almost the same.


B4, the "indica," looking a bit droopy here.  Her buds are the most progressed, as you can see below.


Finally, originally the underdog of the room, B5 has made a strong comeback.  She is sexy.  Check it:





And, as mentioned before, here's a couple bud shots of B4:


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Re: Cinderella 99 (F2) & Bagseed: 600W, Hempy [Re: God]
    #482926 - 09/27/10 10:27 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)



Looks like your starting to get a minor case of heat stress. I see leaf blades starting to rise. It could be other things too, toxic salt buildup, or lack of water. Most likely heat stress though.



And some kind of minor nute problem that could easily be fixed while its still early, not sure what it is.

They're looking good though and could probably still flower well with both of the problems without them being fixed, but it'd be a good idea to try.


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