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Re: Harry's 2010 Grow Log, 1200W, Flo, Sweet Tooth, Maneater and Snowcap (moved) [Re: the man]
    #440250 - 07/01/10 01:20 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Interesting how your argument changes very quickly!

You need to acquire something that will help you in life a great deal, it's called reading comprehension.


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Re: Harry's 2010 Grow Log, 1200W, Flo, Sweet Tooth, Maneater and Snowcap (moved) [Re: the man]
    #440251 - 07/01/10 01:20 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

no harry there not as like i said liek comparing morphine to a diamond. heavy metals pestacides accumulate in me all the time and accumalate in my tissues but do nothing. awesome so because there there should i put more in me. nooo. does silica precipitate in most plants nooo so does not strengthen shit liek you guys are thinking it stays in solution.


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Re: Harry's 2010 Grow Log, 1200W, Flo, Sweet Tooth, Maneater and Snowcap (moved) [Re: the man]
    #440252 - 07/01/10 01:22 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

what about us that don't grow in soil? my coco coir sure doesn't have any silicates in them, so are silica boosters a waste of money for me?


Also, who is saying it precipitates? NONE of the elements that plants use precipitate, does that mean they're absolutely useless? There aren't giant chunks of Phosphorus or Potassium metal just chilling in the leaves of my plants, so why on earth would we be saying that about Cannabis?


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Re: Harry's 2010 Grow Log, 1200W, Flo, Sweet Tooth, Maneater and Snowcap (moved) [Re: the man]
    #440253 - 07/01/10 01:22 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

ive extracted cellulose from trees with nothing that would break down any silica in any amount and never has a mass spec told me there was any quartz or silica or sand!


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Re: Harry's 2010 Grow Log, 1200W, Flo, Sweet Tooth, Maneater and Snowcap (moved) [Re: the man]
    #440256 - 07/01/10 01:23 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

harry those are used by tissues silica is not thats teh dif!


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Re: Harry's 2010 Grow Log, 1200W, Flo, Sweet Tooth, Maneater and Snowcap (moved) [Re: the man]
    #440257 - 07/01/10 01:24 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

it cant strengthen anything when its in solution ok?? no bug is gunna stop cause a little bt of silica is dissolved in the water when they drink out of stream that has almost the same ppm


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Re: Harry's 2010 Grow Log, 1200W, Flo, Sweet Tooth, Maneater and Snowcap (moved) [Re: the man]
    #440258 - 07/01/10 01:25 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Quartz OR Silica? Dude quartz is 100% SiO2, I thought you were a geologist. Also, "Sand" can be literally anything. you're really facepalming hard now man.

And extracting cellulose from trees dude? trees are like 95% cellulose, why on earth would you need to do an extraction?


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Re: Harry's 2010 Grow Log, 1200W, Flo, Sweet Tooth, Maneater and Snowcap (moved) [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #440260 - 07/01/10 01:29 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

silica is quartz holy shit man this is what im talking about!!  most sand is composed mostly of silica is why i said that so ok ya bad word.


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Re: Harry's 2010 Grow Log, 1200W, Flo, Sweet Tooth, Maneater and Snowcap (moved) [Re: the man]
    #440261 - 07/01/10 01:31 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

need to extract all the shit out of them to run them to get teh isotope levels of the cellulose. called alpha cellulose extraction. essentialy make paper hhaha


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Re: Harry's 2010 Grow Log, 1200W, Flo, Sweet Tooth, Maneater and Snowcap (moved) [Re: the man]
    #440263 - 07/01/10 01:32 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

haha so harry you should face palm uber hard right now !!!!  silica or quartz he says. haha

haha or were you making fun of me. i was just trying to simplify it for people saying they were all the same thing and that the mass spec never told me anything else was in there so sand was a proper in a way. said there was nothing else.  haha i feel ya my bad


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Re: Harry's 2010 Grow Log, 1200W, Flo, Sweet Tooth, Maneater and Snowcap (moved) [Re: the man]
    #440265 - 07/01/10 01:33 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

What isotope do you run? Delta O18 for past climatological parameters?

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it cant strengthen anything when its in solution ok?? no bug is gunna stop cause a little bt of silica is dissolved in the water when they drink out of stream that has almost the same ppm




That's what we're saying though, it doesn't stay in solution in the plant, and it doesn't precipitate. Plants aren't sedimentary rocks, pay attention. The plants USE the silica and it becomes intrinsically woven into the cell walls, it doesn't stay suspended in the cytoplasm in solution


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Re: Harry's 2010 Grow Log, 1200W, Flo, Sweet Tooth, Maneater and Snowcap (moved) [Re: the man]
    #440266 - 07/01/10 01:35 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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haha so harry you should face palm uber hard right now !!!!  silica or quartz he says. haha



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i any quartz or silica or sand!





I said it because I was questioning YOUR illegitimate comment


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Re: Harry's 2010 Grow Log, 1200W, Flo, Sweet Tooth, Maneater and Snowcap (moved) [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #440268 - 07/01/10 01:38 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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haha so harry you should face palm uber hard right now !!!!  silica or quartz he says. haha



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i any quartz or silica or sand!





I said it because I was questioning YOUR illegitimate comment




ya i see that now. dude it cant be part of anything if it isnt built into something it does just float around and if it does not precipitate then it is not silica and cant make anything hard and is not used period so is just like a heavy metal in your cells i know its not inside a cell wall forsure that shit is on lock down maybe cytoplasm and xylem sap


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Re: Harry's 2010 Grow Log, 1200W, Flo, Sweet Tooth, Maneater and Snowcap (moved) [Re: the man]
    #440269 - 07/01/10 01:39 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

intrisincally woven like radiation in my brain. dont make it sound wimsical you hippy haha i got long hair just sayin. ahhh anyway not precipated silica cant be hard and does nothing some plant use silica in trichs and other parts to prevent attack however and its precipitated and thats what all your articles are talking about !!


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Re: Harry's 2010 Grow Log, 1200W, Flo, Sweet Tooth, Maneater and Snowcap (moved) [Re: the man]
    #440288 - 07/01/10 02:53 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

oh and harry. according to you coco core should have silica in itplenty infact more conc than any soil...


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Re: Harry's 2010 Grow Log, 1200W, Flo, Sweet Tooth, Maneater and Snowcap (moved) [Re: the man]
    #440290 - 07/01/10 02:57 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

According to me huh? how so?


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Re: Harry's 2010 Grow Log, 1200W, Flo, Sweet Tooth, Maneater and Snowcap (moved) [Re: the man]
    #440291 - 07/01/10 02:58 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Where did you get that?

I see him mentioning that his coco doesn't have ANY silica then asked if the supplements are a waste for coco growers too. As you said Soil contains enough as is.


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Re: Harry's 2010 Grow Log, 1200W, Flo, Sweet Tooth, Maneater and Snowcap (moved) [Re: maryanne3087]
    #440319 - 07/01/10 05:05 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

well there should be because its a plant and plants concentrate silica!!  :smile:


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Re: Harry's 2010 Grow Log, 1200W, Flo, Sweet Tooth, Maneater and Snowcap (moved) [Re: the man]
    #440331 - 07/01/10 08:46 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

You realize coco coir comes from the seed husk? As silica isn't directly used by the metabolism of the plant I can think of at least one good reason why silica wouldn't end up in the protective husk of the seed.

Try harder.


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Re: Harry's 2010 Grow Log, 1200W, Flo, Sweet Tooth, Maneater and Snowcap (moved) [Re: maryanne3087]
    #440342 - 07/01/10 09:58 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I was about to report a bug when I saw this had 61 new posts since I logged in yesterday. :lol:


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