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InvisibleiStoner
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effects of marijuana?
    #438880 - 06/28/10 03:54 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

i want to know if anyone know if it is really bad for you or not.
I see reports on the internet saying that it causes no harmful effects, i see reports saying its more harmful than tabbaco. it causes heart desease, lung cancer, no it doest...ect.
and even in highschool my biology teacher said that it lossend up the brain.
i dont think its caused anything harmful to me besides some lung infections and cough.
what do you here at the growery think


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Re: effects of marijuana? [Re: iStoner]
    #438882 - 06/28/10 03:57 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Smoking anything is bad, though you can use a vaporizer or consume it orally to avoid that.    Temporarily it can have some undesired cognitive effects.


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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:


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Re: effects of marijuana? [Re: iStoner]
    #438885 - 06/28/10 04:03 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

more harmful than tobacco I do not think so I smoke cigs too and they have messed me up far worse than the wonder plant. I have seen long time hard core drinkers who look like death warmed over. Most of the negative things are put up by those companies as well as the pharmaceutical companies they will loose millions by people not buying their product which in 6 months to a year you will see the commercial saying have you or a loved one taken such and such plz call us to get in on this law suite(by the way do you know those lawyers are paid for by the companies they say they are suing, that way the company gets off cheap because they try to talk you into taking a settlement that the company has put out). I think there is a lot of worse things out there than the wonder plant, just my 2 cents


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Re: effects of marijuana? [Re: iStoner]
    #438886 - 06/28/10 04:05 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Do you smoke cigs?  I haven't heard of it causing lung infections.


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Re: effects of marijuana? [Re: THEBats]
    #438887 - 06/28/10 04:05 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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THEBats said:
Smoking anything is bad, though you can use a vaporizer or consume it orally to avoid that.    Temporarily it can have some undesired cognitive effects.



i know, i cant wait till i make some edibles, and get the money for a vape.


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Re: effects of marijuana? [Re: iStoner]
    #438891 - 06/28/10 04:14 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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iStoner said:
Quote:

THEBats said:
Smoking anything is bad, though you can use a vaporizer or consume it orally to avoid that.    Temporarily it can have some undesired cognitive effects.



i know, i cant wait till i make some edibles, and get the money for a vape.



I think that would be the way to go too.


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Re: effects of marijuana? [Re: Don King]
    #438902 - 06/28/10 04:37 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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Don King said:
Do you smoke cigs?  I haven't heard of it causing lung infections.




Smoking anything definitely makes you more susceptible to respiratory infections. Especially if you are passing the pipe around with a group of people.


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Re: effects of marijuana? [Re: iStoner] * 1
    #438919 - 06/28/10 05:08 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

All the stoners I know have a illogical disdain for any authority figures.


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Re: effects of marijuana? [Re: Tangerines] * 1
    #438931 - 06/28/10 05:16 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: effects of marijuana? [Re: DungenessDank]
    #438937 - 06/28/10 05:19 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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I will agree with that one lol


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Re: effects of marijuana? [Re: Kilroy]
    #438956 - 06/28/10 05:51 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Robocop meets Michelin man.  That would make for an interesting comic.


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Re: effects of marijuana? [Re: Tangerines]
    #438976 - 06/28/10 06:57 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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Tangerines said:
All the stoners I know have a illogical disdain for any authority figures.



i agree with this


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Re: effects of marijuana? [Re: Don King]
    #438977 - 06/28/10 06:57 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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Don King said:
Do you smoke cigs?  I haven't heard of it causing lung infections.



i quit cigs a month or two ago


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Re: effects of marijuana? [Re: Don King]
    #438980 - 06/28/10 06:59 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

In my experience, THC as well as psilocybin have been known to cause cardiac enlargement and dysrhythmia, which to my knowledge, are permanent ailments.

However, cardiac enlargement and dysrhythmia aren't really life threatening or for that matter really dangerous, but can cause pretty bad anxiety and can effect lung capactiy.

I know there are a FUCKLOAD of people on here with anxiety problems. A few people have it so bad they apparently have a hard time leaving their homes.

I had to give up cigs and coffee. :shrug: There is another member on here who did the same thing.

Marijuana is a drug. It is bad for you. Period. Sorry. It isn't healthy to smoke it. To what extent is the question. To quote that dude from the Prince of Pot documentary, "It's somewhere in between coffee and beer."

So obviously, you need to figure out for yourself, what you consider too dangerous to put into your body.

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Re: effects of marijuana? [Re: TomCollins]
    #438983 - 06/28/10 07:09 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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In my experience, THC as well as psilocybin have been known to cause cardiac enlargement and dysrhythmia, which to my knowledge, are permanent ailments.

However, cardiac enlargement and dysrhythmia aren't really life threatening or for that matter really dangerous, but can cause pretty bad anxiety and can effect lung capactiy.

I know there are a FUCKLOAD of people on here with anxiety problems. A few people have it so bad they apparently have a hard time leaving their homes.

I had to give up cigs and coffee. :shrug: There is another member on here who did the same thing.

Marijuana is a drug. It is bad for you. Period. Sorry. It isn't healthy to smoke it. To what extent is the question. To quote that dude from the Prince of Pot documentary, "It's somewhere in between coffee and beer."

So obviously, you need to figure out for yourself, what you consider too dangerous to put into your body.



i actually have never heard this before, so basically it would be okay in moderation, llike coffee and beer. i also looked at cardiac enlargment, and it could be life threatening. which is kind of scary.


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Re: effects of marijuana? [Re: iStoner]
    #438998 - 06/28/10 08:49 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Cardiac enlargement? WTF?  I know it can effect blood pressure, but I would need a source for that one.


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Re: effects of marijuana? [Re: Don King]
    #439012 - 06/28/10 09:27 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, I've only been able to find anecdotal evidence of that, if you can point me to a proper study then I can conclude there's some merit in the claim.


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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:


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Re: effects of marijuana? [Re: TomCollins]
    #439283 - 06/29/10 02:38 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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Spency said:
I know there are a FUCKLOAD of people on here with anxiety problems. A few people have it so bad they apparently have a hard time leaving their homes.




I fall into that boat. Perhaps people with anxiety have a tendency to turn to marijuana rather than cannabis causing these anxieties? I'm not sure which side of that coin is responsible for the correlation. I've had anxiety issues for the whole of my life. Sometimes smoking cannabis brings relief, other times it exacerbates my condition. I strongly feel that that portion is a strain dependent observation. More research needs to be done. :shrug:


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Re: effects of marijuana? [Re: 13eetleJuice]
    #439354 - 06/29/10 06:29 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

I'm surprised no one has posted this yet so here it is :pipesmoke:

Source: Effects of Cannabis from Erowid


EFFECTS LIST
The effects of smoking cannabis are usually lighter than those of many other recreational psychoactive substances. People are generally capable of carrying out normal actions and activities while high.

POSITIVE

    * mood lift, euphoria
    * laughter
    * relaxation, stress reduction
    * creative, philosophical, abstract, or deep thinking : ideas flow more easily
    * increased appreciation or awareness of music; deeper connection to music; increased emotional impact of music
    * increased awareness of senses (eating, drinking, smell)
    * change in experience of muscle fatigue; pleasant body feel; increase in body/mind connection
    * pain relief (headaches, cramps)
    * reduced nausea, increased appetite (used medically for this)
    * boring tasks or entertainment can become more interesting or funny

NEUTRAL

    * general change in consciousness
    * increased appetite, snacky-ness
    * slowness (slow driving, talking)
    * change in vision, such as sharpened colors or lights
    * closed-eye visuals (somewhat uncommon)
    * tiredness, sleepiness, lethargy
    * stimulation, inability to sleep (less common)
    * blood-shot eyes (more common with certain varieties of cannabis and inexperienced users)
    * mouth dryness, sticky-mouth (varies with strain)
    * interruption of linear memory; difficulty following a train of thought
    * cheek, jaw, facial tension / numbness (less commonly reported)
    * racing thoughts (especially at high doses)
    * time sense altered (for example, cars seem like they are moving too fast); time dilation and compression are common at higher doses

NEGATIVE

    * nausea, especially in combination with alcohol, some pharmaceuticals, or other psychoactives
    * coughing, asthma, upper respiratory problems
    * difficulty with short-term memory during effects and during periods of frequent use (Ranganathan M, D'Souza DC, Psychopharmacology, 2006)
    * racing heart, agitation, feeling tense
    * mild to severe anxiety
    * panic attacks in sensitive users or with very high doses (oral use increases risk of getting too much)
    * headaches
    * dizziness, confusion
    * lightheadedness or fainting (in cases of lowered blood pressure)
    * paranoid & anxious thoughts more frequent
    * possible psychological dependence on cannabis
    * clumsiness, loss of coordination at high doses
    * can precipitate or exacerbate latent or existing mental disorders

HANGOVER / DAY(S) AFTER

    * dry mouth
    * tired, red, dry, or itchy eyes
    * joint stiffness
    * fatigue, drowsiness, foggy or slow thinking
    * reduced memory skills, slower speed of recall

WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS (after stopping heavy use)

    * mild to moderate, non-life-threatening withdrawal symptoms occur after daily use in some users.
    * Withdrawal symptoms normally last 2-4 days, up to six weeks with long term use. Severity of symptoms is related to frequency and duration of use and individual sensitivity.
    * anhedonia (reduced experience of pleasure)
    * headaches, general unease/discomfort
    * difficulty sleeping
    * desire to smoke cannabis
    * slight loss of appetite
    * finding non-stoned life a bit dull, increased boredom
    * fatigue, lethargy
    * slow thinking, talking
    * stoned-like abstract thinking, impatience with or annoyance at linear thinking


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Re: effects of marijuana? [Re: 13eetleJuice]
    #439381 - 06/29/10 07:30 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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I fall into that boat. Perhaps people with anxiety have a tendency to turn to marijuana rather than cannabis causing these anxieties? I'm not sure which side of that coin is responsible for the correlation. I've had anxiety issues for the whole of my life. Sometimes smoking cannabis brings relief, other times it exacerbates my condition. I strongly feel that that portion is a strain dependent observation. More research needs to be done. :shrug:




I was referring to you actually when I mentioned the coffee and cigs thing.

I never ever had any anxiety problems until I began to use pot and psilocybe cubensis mushrooms. :shrug:

A little over a year ago, I had this horrific addiction to speed and coke. I started having these horrible heart palpitations, where my whole body would pulse all the time. If I drank a cup of coffee, I would literally feel like fainting. I also drank a fuck load of alcohol during the time as well.

I always blamed my heart on that shit, and I turned to pot to help. However, now I'm wondering if pot may have actually aggravated my condition. I don't mind so much anymore to be honest, but yeah I'm not sure why my body is like this now.

Now, what I'd be interested to know is Magash's health status. He claimed in one post that he's been smoking an 8th a day for 10+ years (something like that,) which is... a lot imo.


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