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OfflineNobodyImportant
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Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia
    #435367 - 06/20/10 03:25 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Does anyone happen to know if you are say pulled over with a bong that has visible residue but has been cleaned as well as humanly possible with alcohol and salt if that would land you in jail ?

Like say I have a bong or two that I left about an hour away from home that is too big to stash anywhere that has residue in the perc that I cant clean out but dosent contain any THC at all due to being cleaned well with alcohol



sry for the drawn out question but does anyone know if the "tests" they run on the pariphinalea you get caught with shit tests for just THC of other shit that alcohol wont remove


say will I get fucked if I get pulled over with it ?


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #435372 - 06/20/10 03:34 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I don't think you removed all the THC if there is still resin.  I would not take the risk down in tha South mang.  If nothing else if a cop sees it they are going to search your car.

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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #435373 - 06/20/10 03:34 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Get the highest grade of rubbing alcohol you can and use a ton of salt.  Mix it really well.  You might even want to try another vinegar + salt mixture and let it soak at the bottom to help with the smell and further cleaning it.  Vinegar and salt is what you use to clean off pennies, but after that, who knows.


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: Don King]
    #435375 - 06/20/10 03:44 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Ive tried everything to clean it

and I wont have anything else in the car, its just a really long drive to pick it up

and theres actually two of the same tube and a matching ashcatcher I have to pick up each about 35 mins to an hour away from my place

oh well ill just drive safe I guess, I was just wondering if anyone knew the law regarding the topic


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #435507 - 06/20/10 07:44 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

in texas they just give you a citation on site.

happened to me once, i was busted with a pipe, because my dumbass friend consented to a search (his backpack). I got the case dismissed though because i was innocent, it was legitimately not my paraphernalia. I was given a ticket though because his bag was in my car.

im pretty sure in jawjah you will just recieve a ticket if busted, which has no reason to happen anyway if you obey the laws and dont consent to a search if pulled over, and they will confiscate the piece of course.

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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #435585 - 06/21/10 08:37 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

For them to search your trunk you would already be in deeper shit for something else than the bong would ever get you in.


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
    #435612 - 06/21/10 10:35 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Crusty Ass Bastard said:
For them to search your trunk you would already be in deeper shit for something else than the bong would ever get you in.





I dont know how true that is in the south, Ive been searched twice and they checked the trunk both times


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #435632 - 06/21/10 11:36 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

texas sucks with searching cars, youll probably get a ticket if they see it. just keep it in the trunk


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: iStoner]
    #435770 - 06/21/10 07:22 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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iStoner said:
texas sucks with searching cars, youll probably get a ticket if they see it. just keep it in the trunk




Not just a ticket, TX's cops will take the bong(s) too.


One rolling paper in TX's is a paraphernalia ticket(w/o tobacco). $1100 fine. (I know a dude:foreheadslap:)


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: IrishCoffee]
    #436115 - 06/22/10 12:45 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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IrishCoffee said:
in texas they just give you a citation on site.


  My cousin got arrested in TX for having a Chong bong in her car, they put her in a shitty cell and then fined her 5 days after being arrested.

Guess its where in TX you get arrested.  :shrug:


OP-I would not risk it, they do not test your glass for residue, they just see if it is dirty and then charge you with possession.

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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: weilii]
    #436127 - 06/22/10 01:48 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

What if I said I only smoked spice through it ?

or tobacco or some shit ?

I have two bongs I need to pick up, both really dirty but I will clean em as well as possible

and ones an hour away from me and ones a half hour in the other direction


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #436129 - 06/22/10 01:52 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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NobodyImportant said:
What if I said I only smoked spice through it ?

or tobacco or some shit ?

I have two bongs I need to pick up, both really dirty but I will clean em as well as possible

and ones an hour away from me and ones a half hour in the other direction



alcohol, salt, and some dish cleaner and heat clean really well


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: iStoner]
    #442853 - 07/07/10 05:20 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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NobodyImportant said:
What if I said I only smoked spice through it ?

or tobacco or some shit ?

I have two bongs I need to pick up, both really dirty but I will clean em as well as possible

and ones an hour away from me and ones a half hour in the other direction



alcohol, salt, and some dish cleaner and heat clean really well





And then smoke a bunch of tobacco through it so that it smells like that's what it's being used for.  I know it'd be a pain in the ass, but if it smells like tobacco they can't do shit.


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #442960 - 07/07/10 10:51 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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hawksapprentice said:
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iStoner said:
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NobodyImportant said:
What if I said I only smoked spice through it ?

or tobacco or some shit ?

I have two bongs I need to pick up, both really dirty but I will clean em as well as possible

and ones an hour away from me and ones a half hour in the other direction



alcohol, salt, and some dish cleaner and heat clean really well





And then smoke a bunch of tobacco through it so that it smells like that's what it's being used for.  I know it'd be a pain in the ass, but if it smells like tobacco they can't do shit.



that reminds me, are there people who actually smoke tabbaco out of bongs, or glass pipes that we all smoke weed out of?


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: iStoner]
    #443048 - 07/07/10 01:49 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I doubt it.

On the glass cleaning, the only thing I have used that left a piece truly clean was acetone.

Was a lot easier than alcohol and salt. Left behind nothing but squeaky clean glass.

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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #443088 - 07/07/10 03:50 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

jail for residue:confused:


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #443127 - 07/07/10 04:54 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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NobodyImportant said:
Ive tried everything to clean it




BullShit

I have said time and time again that
soaking your glass piece in OxyClean and HOT water
will get every last bit of resin out of it

every
last
bit

If its real bad, it may take two soaks

No one here will even attempt it to prove me wrong.

If you have an issue with it being a laundry detergent
(which it clearly isn't, although it can help with laundry)

rinse the fucking thing out with alcohol and salt after the OxyClean soak


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: niteowl]
    #443134 - 07/07/10 05:09 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Will try that

I have meant to try it before but the tub of oxyclean in my hosue is empty and its like $20 for a new one

but Ill take your word for it and pick some up

The problem spot is the perc and inside the splashguard where I cant reach to clean out with say a pipe cleaner or something


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #443142 - 07/07/10 05:30 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Get a big glass bowl and heat the water to almost boiling in a microwave.
Add a scoop of Oxyclean to the water and mix well
Pour some Oxy in the piece too if you can

Sit it in the water/oxy mix for 10-15 minutes

Rinse with hot water and repeat if needed

Works like a charm :super:


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: niteowl]
    #443158 - 07/07/10 06:13 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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niteowl said:
Get a big glass bowl and heat the water to almost boiling in a microwave.
Add a scoop of Oxyclean to the water and mix well
Pour some Oxy in the piece too if you can

Sit it in the water/oxy mix for 10-15 minutes

Rinse with hot water and repeat if needed

Works like a charm :super:




I bet this will work.  I put some oxyclean or cascade in my alc/salt mix.  If you let a piece soak long enough in water and oxyclean I know all the resin will some off.  Never tried heating my water up.  I would be careful heating up my glass a lot i bet that shortens its life.

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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: SmOakland]
    #443166 - 07/07/10 06:42 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Don't heat the glass piece in the microwave, just the water.

Or just use hot tap water, but hot water is the key to getting the full benefit from the Oxy


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #443352 - 07/08/10 09:43 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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NobodyImportant said:
Quote:

Crusty Ass Bastard said:
For them to search your trunk you would already be in deeper shit for something else than the bong would ever get you in.





I dont know how true that is in the south, Ive been searched twice and they checked the trunk both times




its called show me a warrent officer..


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: lostinbq]
    #443359 - 07/08/10 10:17 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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lostinbq said:
Quote:

NobodyImportant said:
Quote:

Crusty Ass Bastard said:
For them to search your trunk you would already be in deeper shit for something else than the bong would ever get you in.





I dont know how true that is in the south, Ive been searched twice and they checked the trunk both times




its called show me a warrent officer..





I'd love to see you say that to cops around here, they'd laugh you outa town after they got done searching your shit for whatever reason they came up with.


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: DieselB]
    #443372 - 07/08/10 10:31 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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yea so im going down the street into town and i come around the corrner and there is a k-9 unit pulls out and starts creaping down the road.. i follow behind him for a light. the next light he pulls over like he is parking.. then pulls right behind me..follows me for a light or 2 then turns left... i stop at the store and get some trashbags as im getting in my car the cop passes me just as i sit.. so i see him pull over like he is going to turn and... fucker jumps behind me again.. this time he pulls me over...

reason #1..i had stuff hanging from my mirror(glasses and a maple leaf freashner..

reason #2.. my sticker for my tag is on the wrong side????????(i took the stuff off the mirror like ok but i looked at him like wtf?!?!?!)

so it goes license registration and proof of ins..... (fyi i dont have a legal license i dont think..) i go here is proof and reg but i dont kno where my license is.. this is the only id i got on me sir(my permit to carry a fire arm).. so he asks birthday and address..i tell him.. he goes hold on a min... i wait for like 5 min.. he comes back hands me my stuff and says you know ur pa license is expired in 08 i says yea.. well u got a license anywhere else?/ i go yea florida.. its in order?? i go yea.. he goes have a nice day and get ur stuff changed over..  he pulls off...

sooo i should be in some sort of trouble right now i think.. not writing in here...lol even tho i know i have no license and i probably should have been searched for a firearm i did not have on me at the time i got away with nothing but a bad nervous system now... glad i got some nugs earlier today(dropped off lol)




u cant let them push u around and u need to know your rights before u let them.. its illegal no matter how they put it unless u got shit in the open they have no probable cause..


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: DieselB]
    #443374 - 07/08/10 10:35 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

DieselB is right. around here all they have to say is I thought I smelled something even if it is a clean car and they would have warrant in 10 mins. They can make up anything that they want and a judge will sign off on it, and if nothing is found then say oh I guess I was mistaken go on your way now. The minute you start arguing with them they have reason to think you are hiding something. Now if this happens 3 or more times and find nothing then you have grounds for harassment.


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: lostinbq]
    #443375 - 07/08/10 10:35 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

and dont get me wrong i do know that if u have a warrent them u are fucked.. but for them to pull u over and have a BS story to search your car then u say no.. especially if u have nothing on u.. now they can look into your car through the windows without reason but to physically search then no.. a valid reason must be presented.. IT IS YOUR RIGHT>>>>....!!!!!!


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: Kilroy]
    #443376 - 07/08/10 10:36 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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DieselB is right. around here all they have to say is I thought I smelled something even if it is a clean car and they would have warrant in 10 mins. They can make up anything that they want and a judge will sign off on it, and if nothing is found then say oh I guess I was mistaken go on your way now. The minute you start arguing with them they have reason to think you are hiding something. Now if this happens 3 or more times and find nothing then you have grounds for harassment.





sorry but judges wont sighn bullshit warrents...


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I bring gloom when I step in the room,
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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: lostinbq]
    #443377 - 07/08/10 10:37 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

ive been there and done that and gave the cop the tee-shirt:murray:


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And I've bloodied the moon.
I bring gloom when I step in the room,
With the fumes of a tomb.
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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: lostinbq]
    #443379 - 07/08/10 10:38 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

you need to live here and see that this is not always true.


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: lostinbq]
    #443381 - 07/08/10 10:41 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

sorry but this was probally missed but read my reply of my own quote..

what state?//  ive lived in mass, fl, currently in pittburgh, grew up in baltimore city md.. and been in every state in the east coast,


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I bring gloom when I step in the room,
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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: lostinbq]
    #443388 - 07/08/10 10:51 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

if a cop says he smelled pot from the car(even if he did not) what judge is going to think it is a bullshit warrant if the cop has no bad calls in his file, just something to think about. seen it happen but nothing was found.


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: Kilroy]
    #443392 - 07/08/10 10:57 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

then u need to make a seen and start yelling this is ratial profialing or some other shit cous if ppl let this stupid shit happen then it will continue to happen.. DONT smoke in ur car,, dont transport drugs unless its from point a to point your house..

most ppl do not know that after the cop gets that BS warrent and dose the illegal search that u will in turn go to the judge that sighned the warrent and go WTF IS THIS!!! this is harrasment.. there was no dope smell in my car..
so on so on.,.

comes back to knowing your rights and standing up for them and not letting cops harass u..

u still never said what state..


(not trying to fight BTW just to shed some light on what ive been through.)and others i know.


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And I've bloodied the moon.
I bring gloom when I step in the room,
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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: lostinbq]
    #443394 - 07/08/10 11:03 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Take public trans to transport weight.  Or a taxi.  I feel like there are places in your car where you can stash shit but why risk it?

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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: SmOakland]
    #443400 - 07/08/10 11:09 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

thats a good 1 who the fk pulls over a taxi unless u leaked that thats what u were doing.. or have your dude come to you like i do(cous i dont have a license i think lol..)


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Everyone are you ready for doom,
Because I've blackened the sun,
And I've bloodied the moon.
I bring gloom when I step in the room,
With the fumes of a tomb.
flowers bloom when Im taken away
:rofldrunk:

Edited by lostinbq (07/08/10 11:10 AM)

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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: lostinbq]
    #443404 - 07/08/10 11:18 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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For them to search your trunk you would already be in deeper shit for something else than the bong would ever get you in.





I dont know how true that is in the south, Ive been searched twice and they checked the trunk both times




its called show me a warrent officer..



In NC your DL is their search warrant.:yesnod:

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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: Stoneth]
    #443405 - 07/08/10 11:19 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

DL as in driver's license.


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: lostinbq]
    #443407 - 07/08/10 11:20 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Yes sir!

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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: Stoneth]
    #443427 - 07/08/10 11:38 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

how is that?

never heard of that.>?


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: Stoneth]
    #443428 - 07/08/10 11:41 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

MN too. you can say no but then they call and get warrant, and if they find anything it is not going to matter what you say, they got u. Some states just call in the dog to go outside your car and lets be honest they can make the dog react to anything and say the dog picked up on something and  booom they have probable cause.


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: Kilroy]
    #443432 - 07/08/10 11:46 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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MN too. you can say no but then they call and get warrant, and if they find anything it is not going to matter what you say, they got u. Some states just call in the dog to go outside your car and lets be honest they can make the dog react to anything and say the dog picked up on something and  booom they have probable cause.




sadly i dont think the dogs will just react to what the cop says and if it did u would see the cop telling the dog a command.. aren't the dogs trained for 2 years to detect drugs.. even burred in ur car if u have a dime the dog may not smell it if its a very small amount.. then again idk.. and that is legal for them to do that with the dog thats how thay get the warrant if u say no.. even tho if u have nothing its just plain harrasment..


edit... i still beleave thay need probabal cause to search or get a warrent.. i mean the cop that pulled me over had a right to cous i had a firearm carry permit.. not really but thay can use it to there advantage if thay are willing to .. but i would still have a right to say no.. i never carry any drugs with me and if thay ever do want to fight with me i got time lol..

edit #2: take trueherbcrystal's case he should have said no.. nothing was visible. only his bumper stickers..


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: Kilroy]
    #443433 - 07/08/10 11:48 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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MN too. you can say no but then they call and get warrant, and if they find anything it is not going to matter what you say, they got u. Some states just call in the dog to go outside your car and lets be honest they can make the dog react to anything and say the dog picked up on something and  booom they have probable cause.



Yeah you can refuse here as well.

To refuse search is loss of DL for 10 days pending trail, car to be impounded til trail and here any impounded car will be searched on impound yard, which means you're still busted if you were hiding something.

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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: Stoneth]
    #443448 - 07/08/10 12:14 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

yea key word if.. \

and id imagine after that and the judge asked u why u denied the search for all the hassle u should reply (its my god dam constitutional right).
id imagine u could get a lawyer after all that for harassment charges...
idk tho..


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: lostinbq]
    #443449 - 07/08/10 12:17 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

lol im sorry if i seem pushy but ive been harrased by the cops for no dam reason too many times.. o and the warrent is really for under the seats, stash box, and trunk cous the rest is in plain view if u dont have illegal tint..


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: lostinbq]
    #443469 - 07/08/10 12:53 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I did not think you pushy. I just wanted to let you know that up here at least if they want you they will try all kinds of crap. The reason they searched my car is because of who I used to run with, and the way I looked then(biker all the way). I give them no reason to pull me over just because I hate the crap they put me through. I no longer run with an MC and I cut my hair for job hunt. The car I had was new(used) but had no smell in it. but just because it was me they wanted to look. As for the dog comments not every states has the same k-9 guidelines, as to what a dog has to be trained in, for this reason you can argue that it was not a good search but like I said before if they find anything then it really does not matter what you say or argue.


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: Kilroy]
    #443496 - 07/08/10 02:23 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

true man, i had that happen before when i was a kid too( except i wasn't a biker like that, bmx BOY!!!!) but thats the past.. like i said i never drive with anything and if i did i would not push them cous ya thats askin for trouble. and yes that's the key word also IF THEY WANT.. ALL KINDS OF CRAP<> i haven't worked in 3 years besides side jobs cence my accident so i really have nothing to do besides tend to my kid and my babies.. so if i got pulled over and they wanted to start some shit like
(o u got something hanging from your mirror or your sticker is on the wrong side of your plate( cous the plate is covered in 6 years of stickers..looks like it went through 3 deer, woods 2 times, maby 3-4 guardrails, and wtf else that crazy ho did) dosent look as bad as it sounds just hood and side panels dented.) why i dont carry anything.. i kno its stupid shit like this that (thay think) they have a reason to but in all reality it is just harassment cous of whatever..(im actually in school now for pharm-tech)and i would also guess that it has to do with (cops mood, how u act(demeanor), and if u really are riding dirty ect,) besides this post was about it in the visable view and its about paraphernalia lol(Misdemeanor).

l8rz tho g2g fry up some fish for dinner..


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Re: Legal ? Regarding paraphernalia [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #443504 - 07/08/10 02:43 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

as for the original post id find out about your laws and even if there is a fine resin they will bust u. completely clean it needs to be..


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