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OfflineTomCollins


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Black Tea Tek
    #397029 - 04/06/10 02:13 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Hey guys,

I'm in the process now of germinating my new seeds. Last plant came down today. Thank god. It just went on for waay too long...

Anyway, I thought I'd give Buddy Guys black tea tek a try out and post the results on here.



Waters boiling as I type. :thumbup:


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Re: Black Tea Tek [Re: TomCollins]
    #397459 - 04/07/10 04:09 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

chamomile tea is the way to go and stops fungus and damping off, buddy guys ways are unethical


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Re: Black Tea Tek [Re: juke adro]
    #397512 - 04/07/10 10:20 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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buddy guys ways are unethical




Care to elaborate on that? I've never heard the word unethical used to describe anything but breeding in this hobby. Using any kind of tea is certainly not conforming to "accepted standards" or more than 1-2% of growers would do it.

I also fail to see how his methods are immoral, wrong, dirty, improper, unfair, etc. Don't throw people under the bus if you aren't going to elaborate.


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Re: Black Tea Tek [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
    #397515 - 04/07/10 10:21 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

:lol: yeah I don't see how any sort of tea can be considered unethical.


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Re: Black Tea Tek [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
    #397521 - 04/07/10 10:41 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

You have to water the tea down, you make a normal tea then bin it then use same bag and do it again pour most out then fill with cold water and use that. buddys tek does not tell you that he just says he makes tea lol. How is it a tek when it gives you no instructions. His ways are unethical!

Chamomile has been used for plants and seeds since god knows when, it adds flavor helps support healthy growth and stops damping off and fungus and heaps more I'll vouch for it.


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Re: Black Tea Tek [Re: juke adro]
    #397584 - 04/07/10 12:17 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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You have to water the tea down, you make a normal tea then bin it then use same bag and do it again pour most out then fill with cold water and use that. buddys tek does not tell you that he just says he makes tea lol. How is it a tek when it gives you no instructions. His ways are unethical!

Chamomile has been used for plants and seeds since god knows when, it adds flavor helps support healthy growth and stops damping off and fungus and heaps more I'll vouch for it.




What you actually outlined is vague at best. I think everyone knows you water tea down. I think everyone knows how to "make a normal tea". The only difference you actually outlined is...you prefer chamomile and re-use the tea bag. How fucking ethical of you!

What you're actually trying to say by misapplying words is...there is a right and a wrong way, your way is the right way and Buddy's way, which you have never tried, is the wrong way.

Since you vouched for it I'm sure we're all going to be doing it in no time though...


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Re: Black Tea Tek [Re: TomCollins]
    #397587 - 04/07/10 12:25 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

You're a idiot!  There is no my way.
Buddy posts rubbish and thats that, Buddys posts give no help whatsoever, if you wanna suck up his ass and defend him good for you mr 400 posts with a TC tag, NO not everyone knows to water down the tea why the fuck do you think people ask questions here don't be stupid, your just defending a retard and trying to look cool when you actually look like a dick.  THERE IS NO BUDDYS WAY  his "teks" are faulty and no help to a noob so stfu and bye. I refuse to post in MC with retards such as your self and buddy :bye:


Edit: I'm not saying black tea is shit or anything like that I'm saying buddy is shit, he copys the info then changes it so much that it comes out wrong and are not teks just edited copied works with all the good bits missing leaving room for mistakes. If I was trying to be smart like buddy and know everything about the science behind MC I would not spell tannic with one N. Look through all his posts and you will see all his errors and over time his errors change to the correct way, why is this so? because he is a noob and wants to look good like your self only you have some exp though trying to put your head where its not needed is your problem.

and a read for you and Mr tannic man ..........
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Buddy Guy said:
Tanic acid from the tea will cleans the husk from any bacteria and help soften the husk.



Tea is grown in about 30 countries but is consumed worldwide, although at greatly varying levels. It is the most widely consumed beverage aside from water with a per capita worldwide consumption of approximately 0.12 liter per year. Tea is manufactured in three basic forms. Green tea is prepared in such a way as to preclude the oxidation of green leaf polyphenols. During black tea production oxidation is promoted so that most of these substances are oxidized. Oolong tea is a partially oxidized product. Of the approximately 2.5 million metric tons of dried tea manufactured, only 20% is green tea and less than 2% is oolong tea. Green tea is consumed primarily in China, Japan, and a few countries in North Africa and the Middle East. Fresh tea leaf is unusually rich in the flavanol group of polyphenols known as catechins which may constitute up to 30% of the dry leaf weight. Other polyphenols include flavanols and their glycosides, and depsides such as chlorogenic acid, coumarylquinic acid, and one unique to tea, theogallin (3-galloylquinic acid). Caffeine is present at an average level of 3% along with very small amounts of the other common methylxanthines, theobromine and theophylline. The amino acid theanine (5-N-ethylglutamine) is also unique to tea. Tea accumulates aluminum and manganese. In addition to the normal complement of plant cell enzymes, tea leaf contains an active polyphenol oxidase which catalyzes the aerobic oxidation of the catechins when the leaf cell structure is disrupted during black tea manufacture. The various quinones produced by the enzymatic oxidations undergo condensation reactions which result in a series of compounds, including bisflavanols, theaflavins, epitheaflavic acids, and thearubigens, which impart the characteristic taste and color properties of black tea. Most of these compounds readily form complexes with caffeine. There is no tannic acid in tea. Thearubigens constitute the largest mass of the extractable matter in black tea but their composition is not well known. Proanthocyanidins make up part of the complex. Tea peroxidase may be involved in their generation. The catechin quinones also initiate the formation of many of the hundreds of volatile compounds found in the black tea aroma fraction. Green tea composition is very similar to that of the fresh leaf except for a few enzymatically catalyzed changes which occur extremely rapidly following plucking. New volatile substances are produced during the drying stage. Oolong tea is intermediate in composition between green and black teas. :snub:

TO OP GL and go by the very last post in buddys thread (not tek) by DelBoycie  and you will be sweet :smile: also try chamomile its pretty good.


Edited by juke adro (04/07/10 03:14 PM)


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Re: Black Tea Tek [Re: juke adro]
    #397594 - 04/07/10 12:31 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Easy der. He actually grows weed unlike buddy. Not everyone may know that buddy is just a copy paste king with no real good reputation at all.


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Re: Black Tea Tek [Re: DungenessDank]
    #397613 - 04/07/10 01:47 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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Easy der. He actually grows weed unlike buddy. Not everyone may know that buddy is just a copy paste king with no real good reputation at all.




I'm well aware, but the fact is he copied it from a source. By that logic, there could very well be some good information in buddy guys posts.

Anyway, may I just say that arguing about which tea to use before germination is plain and simple insanely juvenile.


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Re: Black Tea Tek [Re: TomCollins]
    #397618 - 04/07/10 02:00 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Man like I said I'm not arguing about which effin TEA, I said and I quote
Quote:

chamomile tea is the way to go and stops fungus and damping off


and then quote again
Quote:

buddy guys ways are unethical


I'm saying buddy is a fake don't do anything in his teks, search others teks, his so called teks are not good nor do they have valuable info, the idea yes but not the actual word they are wrong.

lest say I make a tek for a NOS kit for your turbo car ok, you follow my tek cause its cool and you hear NOS does make the car go heaps faster but little do you know my tek is retarded and you start your car and it blows up and you die cause my tek was a copy and paste from a source that also was wrong or right (doesnt matter) and I edited the shit out of it and now its all wrong anyway regardless cause i have removed vital instructions so you are destined to fuck it up.


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Re: Black Tea Tek [Re: juke adro]
    #397623 - 04/07/10 02:26 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

I dunno about the "unethical" part of this convo, but Buddy guy did admit to doctoring up someones work to make it look like his own! I do not remember what thread that was in, but sure it was one of his grow tips. That alone makes me think "SHADY"! :shrug:


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Re: Black Tea Tek [Re: SpaceMonkey]
    #397628 - 04/07/10 02:37 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

It was the post about feminized seeds I believe.


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Re: Black Tea Tek [Re: juke adro]
    #397629 - 04/07/10 02:37 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

I stopped reading at: "I'm not saying black tea is shit or anything like that I'm saying buddy is shit"

Also, I didn't ask for a TC tag and I could care less about it. You implying that the amount of posts someone has on a message board correlates to the amount of cannabis knowledge they posses is pretty telling.


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Re: Black Tea Tek [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
    #397631 - 04/07/10 02:43 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

206 said:
You implying that the amount of posts someone has on a message board correlates to the amount of cannabis knowledge they posses is pretty telling.




On these message boards, there is zero correlation between the two.... Unless it's an inverse correlation. :tongue:


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Re: Black Tea Tek [Re: SpaceMonkey]
    #397646 - 04/07/10 02:59 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

The thread is from here He changed his first post to just a link but so you cant see the full impact now but its still a look into him, Also I use word I don't know the meaning to so forgive :stoned: my unethical ways LOL, I should have said buddy guys ways are silly/wrong/fake/dishonorable???? :shrug:

Anyhow IMA use black tea on my eye tonight cause its weeping like a willow


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Re: Black Tea Tek [Re: juke adro]
    #397648 - 04/07/10 03:01 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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Anyhow IMA use black tea on my eye tonight cause its weeping like a willow




I'm going to smoke a fat bowl of A+ medical marijuana, I'll be thinking about you though. I like what you did with this thread.

Thanks for the 0 star rating too, I returned the favor. Now please, back to the shroomery or off-topic.

Note that he just edited the post and removed the part about wanting to be banned from cultivation forums. I guess he changed his mind?


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Re: Black Tea Tek [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
    #397656 - 04/07/10 03:11 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, let's get this thread back on track please!


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Re: Black Tea Tek [Re: SpaceMonkey]
    #397662 - 04/07/10 03:20 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

blah blah blah

Yes, buddy repeated/copied information. It's what we all do.

No need to hate Juke, just correct him where he is wrong and go about your way


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Re: Black Tea Tek [Re: moogles]
    #397685 - 04/07/10 03:36 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

You guys don't seem to understand. I would love to correct Buddy where he is wrong but, the issue is more complicated.

Buddy SELLS himself as a CULTIVATOR with many many grows under his belt. That is an outright LIE. He has never grown ganja. I don't mind that he hasn't. I don't give a fuck. Some of you around here have this MC Knowledge and Experience pissing contest. I don't give a fuck and don't claim to know shit about growing but, what I most certainly DO know is people and buddy guy is a fraud.

Why is it important for EVERYONE to know this about buddy? Because buddy hands out information without having the knowledge or experience himself to know whether or not the info is bogus or legit. THAT'S FUCKED FOR NOOBS LIKE ME THAT WANNA LEARN ABOUT MARIJUANA CULTIVATION HERE IN FUCKING REALITY!!! Which is a place that Buddy Guy does NOT reside.

He's got problems. I don't judge him for that but, he's watering down these boards with info that hasn't been proof-read but ACTUAL cultivators. The post that juke adro linked you guys to about feminized seeds is a classic example. Magash had to come chime in and let everyone know that the article buddy stole and tried to pass off as his own knowlege/work was actually fucking bullshit info anyways!!

Now, back to the topic here... about the tea, the only thing that juke adro is trying to tell you guys is to fact check buddy's tek with OTHER VERIFIABLE SOURCES on the internet as ALL of buddy's works posted ANYWHERE on the net are collections of data taken by an amateur and should be taken as such. His work still has value, the reader however needs the FOREWARNING to know that the info may or may not be valid for his/her particular application.

That's not quite all I have to say by a long shot but in an effort not to derail the thread about tea any further I'll cease but, THIS at least needs to be said. Buddy Guy is a PEST here at the Growery. That is NOT a flame, it's merely my opinion based upon his dishonest, self-masterbating, err contributions if you can call them that (considering that someone with REAL experience still needs to go over all his WISE GROW TIPS and let me, the noob, know whether it's legit or not, because I, like Buddy, shouldn't just believe any and everything I read.


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Re: Black Tea Tek [Re: juke adro]
    #397693 - 04/07/10 03:44 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Holy shit, I was only gone a few hours and this is what happens? I just want to say,
Quote:

juke adro said:
There is no tannic acid in tea.




I read this on wikipedia when this tek first came out but I kept my mouth shut.

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