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Offlinehopanshrubman
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Light Shopping Today.
    #378772 - 03/05/10 11:49 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

My budget is like 40 bucks. I am thinking about going to walmart and just buying like....6-8 CFL's and maybe two strip floros to put on the sides of the box.

What do ya'll think I should do with forty dollars ?

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: hopanshrubman]
    #378777 - 03/05/10 12:18 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

strip fluoros are a complete waste of money IMO, barely any light output for their size. Just put all that money towards as many CFL's as you can.


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Re: Light Shopping Today. *DELETED* [Re: hopanshrubman]
    #378778 - 03/05/10 12:21 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: wishcouldeletethis]
    #378782 - 03/05/10 12:36 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Security lights see here:

my plants are doing amazing by the way:

http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/369303#369303

Any questions ask. You can get 200 watts...1 100 watt MH and 1 100 watt HPS or just uses 2 HPS and CFLS like I chose to do.


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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: hopanshrubman]
    #378784 - 03/05/10 12:49 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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What do ya'll think I should do with forty dollars ?



Get a copy of MARIJUANA Horticulture. The INDOOR/OUTDOOR MEDICAL Growers bible. Written by: Buddy Guy.........


Just kidding. Written by: Jorge Cervantes.:wink:

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: Buddy Guy]
    #378787 - 03/05/10 01:11 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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hopanshrubman said:


What do ya'll think I should do with forty dollars ?



Get a copy of MARIJUANA Horticulture. The INDOOR/OUTDOOR MEDICAL Growers bible. Written by: Buddy Guy.........


Just kidding. Written by: Jorge Cervantes.:wink:




That book is a bigger waste of money than trying to grow using christmas lights


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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #378797 - 03/05/10 01:30 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Harry_Ba11sach said:
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Buddy Guy said:
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hopanshrubman said:


What do ya'll think I should do with forty dollars ?



Get a copy of MARIJUANA Horticulture. The INDOOR/OUTDOOR MEDICAL Growers bible. Written by: Buddy Guy.........


Just kidding. Written by: Jorge Cervantes.:wink:




That book is a bigger waste of money than trying to grow using christmas lights



    DAMN, Harry.  "Trying to grow with Christmas lights."? You sound like a man of experience.:wink: Just kidding  :calledajoke: . That actually sounds funny when you say it out loud:laugh2:
Eh. It's a decent place to start. What books in your opinion are not an even bigger waste of money, as you say? I love marijuana literature.

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: Buddy Guy]
    #378800 - 03/05/10 01:34 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Not from experience but I've seen others try it... needless to say with little success :wink:

As for the best literature; the internet, cause it's interactive :grin:

I've just found through experience that Jorge is dead wrong on like 40% of the shit in that book :shrug:


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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: hopanshrubman]
    #378829 - 03/05/10 04:07 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I'm your man....

If Home Depot is consistent around the country, this should cover the CFL side of your $40 limit....

On sale at Home Depot right now are these 2 packs of 5000K color temp 27 watt CFL's for $2!!!!! That's right, a $1 a bulb a piece. That's 27 watts of light for a frickin' dollar!!! Its InSaNe!!!

Here's the model/package of the 2-bulb 27 watters Super-Deal (dun! dun! DUN!)....


I just hope they are on sale in your area, because I checked on Thrusday, and they still are in mine (Pacific Northwest).

And if you need cheap cords and adatpers for the socket, buy these (they are pictured in the bottom-half of the screen, the bulb adapters are the white things in the middle-top)....

^The cords are $1 each for a 6ft cord. The adapters are about $2.50. Total to run one 26 watt bulb: $4.50 ($1 for cord + $2.5 for adapter + $1 for bulb).

>>> For $40, you could buy enough CFL's (and adapters) for 240 real watts of light ($40 / $4.50 = 8.88 <> 8.88 * 27 watts per bulb = 240 watts).

But, you're going to have to use A LOT of bulbs in a small area, and you're gunna need some power strips (not included in price), so its likely more like 200 real watts to account for the extra power strips.

For the budget grower, this is about as good as it gets. Oh yeah, don't forget a 24-hour light timer and a 6-outlet power strip, cause you're gunna need those too. :wink:

***One More Thing: If you want to improve the efficency by adding some reflectors onto the lights without spending a lot, go to the wire section and ask for bare copper wire (its pictured in the photo above). Its dirt cheap, like $0.25 a foot or something. Get like 10 ft or so. Then, so to the adhevsives section and ask for a roll of sticky duct tape (About $5 a roll).

Then, go to a super market and buy a roil of tin/alumimum foil (about $4). What you will do is tape pieces of the bare copper wire to the bulb body itself in the sahpe of those yellow shop lights with the metal cage on them (but yours won't need a metal cage). So, you will make a upside-down ice cream cone shape (if bulbs are vertical) or half-shell shaped (if bulbs will be horizontal) reflector frame, and then put some tin foil on the *inside* of the copper frame (closet to bulb) and tape it down with the duct tape from the back (on the copper wire frame).

That will improve the efficiency by adding much needed "focused" light. Inverted never put any sort of reflectors for his 4 CFL's for his grow in this thread, which kinda makes me think "hmmm....I wonder why a T.S. would do that. It doesn't make sense.....". But I think it would help the efficiency A LOT then without it.

Good Luck fellow Budgeteer!
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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #378934 - 03/05/10 10:20 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

So I just bought a 6 pack of 26 watt CFL's (1750 lumens per light) and a 3 pack of 23 watt's.

Will this suffice to at least start vegging plants?

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: hopanshrubman]
    #378937 - 03/05/10 10:28 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Hell yeah!

How many plants do you have? I think its like 100 watts minimum per plant per square foot (for more mature ones, of course). For young ones, I think you could get away with 75 watts per plant. So, about 3 bulbs per plant.

How far along are the plants you vegging?

Also, did you find that awesome Home Depot deal?

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #378974 - 03/06/10 01:33 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Harry_Ba11sach said:
Not from experience but I've seen others try it... needless to say with little success :wink:

As for the best literature; the internet, cause it's interactive :grin:

I've just found through experience that Jorge is dead wrong on like 40% of the shit in that book :shrug:







I gotta completely disagree.  If one is at least a little bit intelligent I think you can extract quite a bit of good information from that book.  It was what got me started, well that and over grow.  Of course you can't just pick up a book read it and grow the perfect crop.  It take actual real world application.  Then seeing for yourself how things may differ. 


But in all I think that for people who aren't really good at researching around on the internet, and I feel like we see quite a few, that this book can lay a lot of things out for them in pretty easy to use format.


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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #378978 - 03/06/10 03:04 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Hell yeah!

How many plants do you have? I think its like 100 watts minimum per plant per square foot (for more mature ones, of course). For young ones, I think you could get away with 75 watts per plant. So, about 3 bulbs per plant.

How far along are the plants you vegging?

Also, did you find that awesome Home Depot deal?

~ TrueHerbCrystal ~




I have not even started germinating yet. How many plants max would I be able to start vegging do you think? I am planning on doubling the CFL setup I have now on my next paycheck for flowering stages.

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: hopanshrubman]
    #378979 - 03/06/10 03:11 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Actually I have my own idea of how I am going to set up my added CFL's once I start flowering.


Basically its going to be a strip of 6 CFLs on top in the center. 4 in each corner (higher wattage) and then 4 on each side of the box. On the sides about halfway up the height of the box. These will also be higher wattage.

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: hopanshrubman]
    #378981 - 03/06/10 03:37 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds good to me, but I would recomend seperate cords for each bulb because the spacing on power strips is tight, and all won't be used with the size of those CFL bulbs.

Also, try to point the horizontal spiral part of the bulb toward the plants, because most of the light comes from side tubing part, not the front-end of it.

For an example, here's what I did for my set-up....

^All the bulbs are horizontal to the plant, maximizing light output. This is likely the best orientation to get the most light out of a CFL bulb.

Use reflectors whenever possible. If you're tight on money, you can use copper wire (used as a frame), tin/alumimum foil (the reflector part) and a roll of duct tape (to keep everything down). Basically you would use the power strip as a frame and build a reflector on top of it using the 3 supplies I mentioned.

If you need any help with the building of the reflectors, just let me know. I got ya.

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #378983 - 03/06/10 04:03 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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hawksapprentice said:
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
Not from experience but I've seen others try it... needless to say with little success :wink:

As for the best literature; the internet, cause it's interactive :grin:

I've just found through experience that Jorge is dead wrong on like 40% of the shit in that book :shrug:







I gotta completely disagree.  If one is at least a little bit intelligent I think you can extract quite a bit of good information from that book.  It was what got me started, well that and over grow.  Of course you can't just pick up a book read it and grow the perfect crop.  It take actual real world application.  Then seeing for yourself how things may differ. 


But in all I think that for people who aren't really good at researching around on the internet, and I feel like we see quite a few, that this book can lay a lot of things out for them in pretty easy to use format.



Very nicely articulated. I totally agree.

As for Mr.hopanshrubman :goodluck: to you sir and enjoy your first grow. May your ventures bring you much fruit and wisdom. Sounds like TrueHerbCrystal's got your back. I apologize for my contribution in getting off the topic of your post. I feel that was rude.:peace:

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #379001 - 03/06/10 06:43 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Sounds good to me, but I would recomend seperate cords for each bulb because the spacing on power strips is tight, and all won't be used with the size of those CFL bulbs.

Also, try to point the horizontal spiral part of the bulb toward the plants, because most of the light comes from side tubing part, not the front-end of it.

For an example, here's what I did for my set-up....

^All the bulbs are horizontal to the plant, maximizing light output. This is likely the best orientation to get the most light out of a CFL bulb.

Use reflectors whenever possible. If you're tight on money, you can use copper wire (used as a frame), tin/alumimum foil (the reflector part) and a roll of duct tape (to keep everything down). Basically you would use the power strip as a frame and build a reflector on top of it using the 3 supplies I mentioned.

If you need any help with the building of the reflectors, just let me know. I got ya.

Your Semi-Handy man
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How much did that cost you? And how much trouble was it? I have 200watts hps security lights with reflectors for 40 dollars with minor work...

And 2 70 watt cfls with reflectors for like 40 more...

Thats a goddamn fire hazard


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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: mhbound]
    #379008 - 03/06/10 07:39 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Cheap HPS= streetlight


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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: Inbred_gimp]
    #379080 - 03/06/10 11:25 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you guys so much for all the help!

I am going to go to home depot to get a power strip and I guess some adapters? Or something? I don't really know exactly what I need to get the lights plugged in and hanging inside my grow room

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: hopanshrubman]
    #379121 - 03/06/10 02:25 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

let me help you dude its a little more complex than that...i didnt make myself real clear in this thread but ill hang around and answer questions as you go.


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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: mhbound]
    #379179 - 03/06/10 05:10 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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mhbound said:
let me help you dude its a little more complex than that...i didnt make myself real clear in this thread but ill hang around and answer questions as you go.




Well. I just need to be able to hang up my lights and I am set. I just need sockets that will plug into a power strip right?

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: hopanshrubman]
    #379273 - 03/06/10 08:46 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Yep, simple as that


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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: mhbound]
    #379291 - 03/06/10 09:58 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

hopanshrubman said:

Thank you guys so much for all the help!

I am going to go to home depot to get a power strip and I guess some adapters? Or something? I don't really know exactly what I need to get the lights plugged in and hanging inside my grow room.

- Your welcome dude.

As for those adapters for the bulbs, they look like this (top of photo)...

^They cost like $2.50 each. They screw directly onto the threads of the bulb, and plug into the power strip with 2-prongs (no ground prong).

And don't forget to put some reflectors on the bulbs.

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How much did that cost you? And how much trouble was it? I have 200watts hps security lights with reflectors for 40 dollars with minor work...

And two 70 watt cfls with reflectors for like 40 more...

Thats a goddamn fire hazard




- Cost me bout $70 total, not including tools like a power drill and a handsaw. But the thing is, I have enough left-over parts to make a second one with 4 bulb set-up, so I would say about $40 just for this one.

- Wasn't too much trouble, expect cutting the wood took liek forever (only had a handsaw). It took about 6 hours straight to complete it, but it was worth doing it right!

- So wait, you bought 200 watts of HPS light & reflectors for only $40?! How the hell did you pull that off? Did you have to resort to stealing? I mean, if you're going to grow something illegal, might as well do something illegal to do it. (nah, that's bad morals, don't do that!).

Also, what about cooling? My understanding is that HPS lights need a lot more cooling than CFL's, especially in the 200 watt range (maybe even the 100 watt range, but I can't be sure).

I'm going to have to see it to believe it mhbound. If you did it legally, I wish I could of known this earlier; I would of never done CFL's in the first place if I could just use an HPS. But, the cooling required to run it would just run up costs, and with only one plant growing right now, a HPS seems like overkill.

_ As for the fire-hazard, its been running since mid-Febuary, and no problems yet. I had to put a PC fan on top the frame and a 12" osill. fan on the ground because it was getting toasty up there, but its fine now. Temps are usually 79-81F.

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Edited by TrueHerbCrystal (03/11/10 11:10 PM)

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #379468 - 03/07/10 12:59 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

200 Watts of HPS isn't going to be quite as hot as you would think THC.

I was relatively surprised to find that the hype surrounding the heat that HID's put off is exaggerated.  I used to use a 175w Metal Halide in a box smaller than 2x2x3, and I only needed a small amount of circulation in the box to keep things reasonable.  My 150w HPS isn't all that hot either.  I mean it's almost the same as my veg box (6 CFL's) but it's just more concentrated than the heat of the CFL's.  My circulation fan just died 2 days ago and my small PC extractor fan is enough to keep everything just fine, and around 80 now.  It was 72 with the 4" circulation fan...

I also suggested going the security light route, not to mention you can have it remote ballasted and it will take up less space, and be easier to cool.

But to answer your question, I veg up to 15 plants until sexing in a box that is 18"x22"x36" with (2)-42w and (4)-30w and am able to get the same results that I used to with my Metal Halide (gave to GF for her grow :wink:)

These were vegged in that small box with those lights I just listed.



Culled the males... Beautiful CFL ladies



Keep in mind I can only fit 6 vegged females in there, but I can start 15 and cull the males to make up for the growing size of the plants.

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: Inverted]
    #379516 - 03/07/10 02:32 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

but you have to take the ballast out or it will create too much heat in the box. plus grounding it just small things that turn big things


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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: Inverted]
    #379646 - 03/07/10 07:55 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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I also suggested going the security light route, not to mention you can have it remote ballasted and it will take up less space, and be easier to cool.





I know that is what I said.


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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: Inverted]
    #379769 - 03/08/10 12:54 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

oh sorry, stoned


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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: mhbound]
    #380131 - 03/08/10 03:04 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Would I be able to make reflectors out if pipe cleaner and aluminum foil?

I am picking up the supplies on wednesday for my lights, any tips on how I should go about hanging them? I already know the setup...I think I might draw up an example to show you guys.

Also, a friend of mine gave me a bottle of this...said he used it and it helped him a lot

http://www.indoor-fountains.com/greengreenbo.html

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #380145 - 03/08/10 03:22 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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hopanshrubman said:

Thank you guys so much for all the help!

I am going to go to home depot to get a power strip and I guess some adapters? Or something? I don't really know exactly what I need to get the lights plugged in and hanging inside my grow room.


- Your welcome dude.

As for those adapters for the bulbs, they look like this (top of photo)...

^They cost like $2.50 each. They screw directly onto the threads of the bulb, and plug into the power strip with 2-prongs (no ground prong).

And don't forget to put some reflectors on the bulbs.

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Quote:

mhbound said:
How much did that cost you? And how much trouble was it? I have 200watts hps security lights with reflectors for 40 dollars with minor work...

And two 70 watt cfls with reflectors for like 40 more...

Thats a goddamn fire hazard




- Cost me bout $70 total, not including tools like a power drill and a handsaw. But the thing is, I have enough left-over parts to make a second one with 4 bulb set-up, so I would say about $40 just for this one.

- Wasn't too much trouble, expect cutting the wood took liek forever (only had a handsaw). It took about 6 hours straight to complete it, but it was worth doing it right!

- So wait, you bought 200 watts of HPS light & reflectors for only $40?! How the hell did you pull that off? Did you have to resort to stealing? I mean, if you're going to grow something illegal, might as well do something illegal to do it. (nah, that's bad morals, don't do that!).

Also, what about cooling? My understanding is that HPS lights need a lot more cooling than CFL's, especially in the 200 watt range (maybe even the 100 watt range, but I can't be sure).

I'm going to have to see it to believe it mhbound. If you did it legally, I wish I could of known this earlier; I would of never done CFL's in the first place if I could just use an HPS. But, the cooling required to run it would just run up costs, and with only one plant growing right now, a HPS seems like overkill.

_ As for the fire-hazard, its been running since mid-Febuary, and no problems yet. I had to put a PC fan on top the frame and a 12" osill. fan on the ground because it was getting toasty up there, but its fine now. Temps are usually 79-81F.

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I'm too high and I have a deadline on this project so I can't find the exact link but if you remind me in a couple of hours I'll find it for you......but here is kind of what it is

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250503902714&rvr_id=&crlp=1_263602_263622&UA=WVS%3F&GUID=c756efc01260a0b583e16ce1ffcb9249&itemid=250503902714&ff4=263602_263622

Mine were cheaper and I removed the glass and they make the perfect reflector:

http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/352355#352355

Thats my current grow I'm doing with shit from around the house...Though I did buy the lights...I found them online for 100w hps or mh for 25 dollars I think it was...And with a little work like I did above in that thread you can have a remote ballast setup and replacement bulbs are like 10 dollars.

Just remind me if you want some help and I'll find the link and help you..It may be scary since it is some wiring involved and you should be but its very simple..Nothing to worry about as long as you follow a few simple rules.


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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: hopanshrubman]
    #380189 - 03/08/10 04:25 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Would I be able to make reflectors out if pipe cleaner and aluminum foil?

I am picking up the supplies on wednesday for my lights, any tips on how I should go about hanging them? I already know the setup...I think I might draw up an example to show you guys.

Also, a friend of mine gave me a bottle of this...said he used it and it helped him a lot

http://www.indoor-fountains.com/greengreenbo.html




for CFL's or a small HID you can make your own reflectors out of old aluminum soda cans carefully cut up, and lots of duct tape... :wink:

Edit- although don't rely on tape around heat sources, it will just turn to goop and won't stick.  I would actually probably use super glue to make them, plus the curvature you choose will stay unlike w/ tape.


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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: Inverted]
    #380211 - 03/08/10 04:44 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Sick. Thats awesome because I have shitloads of cans laying around! Thanks a lot man :laugh:

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: Inverted]
    #380439 - 03/08/10 08:19 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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for CFL's or a small HID you can make your own reflectors out of old aluminum soda cans carefully cut up, and lots of duct tape... :wink:

Edit- although don't rely on tape around heat sources, it will just turn to goop and won't stick.  I would actually probably use super glue to make them, plus the curvature you choose will stay unlike w/ tape.




Oh yeah, I read a document about that here at the Growery. It was one of the first documents I read when I was researching grow lights.

Just found the document, its called: What are compact fluorescents and how can I use them for growing?

^Its got a great photo step-by-step instructions on how to make those simple soda can reflectors.

I thought about using them, but I decided to try make my own using wire and mylar sheeting, which is not 100% efficient, but its pretty good. :thumbup:

Good Luck with those Reflectors

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #382101 - 03/11/10 06:31 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

i didnt c how to use a 100w hps bulb, what does the bulb go in? yhe sec light? isnt that around 100$

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: hihungry]
    #382105 - 03/11/10 06:39 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

how old are you?


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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: mhbound]
    #382121 - 03/11/10 06:56 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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mhbound said:
how old are you?




I'm 19.

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: hopanshrubman]
    #382132 - 03/11/10 07:06 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

i was talking about the guy above me he was like talking like a 5th grade girl on her mobile phone


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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: mhbound]
    #382166 - 03/11/10 07:24 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Oh. My bad. Hahahaha.

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: mhbound]
    #382174 - 03/11/10 07:27 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

That's weird, because I always thought you kinda sounded like that mhbound, but you know, with a male voice.

I mean your lack of periods and capital letters at the beginning of sentences reminds me of how some young, 18 year old girls used to text me...but at least I usually can understand what you are saying (keyword: usually). What hihungry was saying, who knows. Too high to type, I guess.

No Offense mhbound :peace:
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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #382178 - 03/11/10 07:30 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

none taken i just dont put a lot of effort in to small talk...if i need to get a point across i will :wink:


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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: mhbound]
    #382181 - 03/11/10 07:33 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

FYI, guys, no bashing aloud in my threads. Ever. Just sayin.

Be nice :]

Anyways. I have some questions in my grow journal, would anyone be so nice as to help me out with em ;] ;]

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: mhbound]
    #382188 - 03/11/10 07:36 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Good to know dude. I'm glad were still digital buddies. A lot of other users do that do, what I like to call "Internet English". Its just simpler, faster, easier...well, you get the idea.

For me, it just feels weird doing it the wrong way, so I type in long-hand, so to speak. Each his own. At least you make sense: some of the stuff that Coasters says is like "Uh...what?". I think he's just really high all the time, or maybe really lazy...who knows.

PS
I love your little action-figure guy in your avatar! He looks so friendly handing me a fat bud like that. What a nice gesture....

Peace! :peace:
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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #382298 - 03/11/10 10:20 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

what i meant was, i was looking for hours trying to figure out where the bulb screws into on a hps security light. Some one above said they made aetup for around 40$ for hps. All the sec. lights are nearly $100+ bulb 10-20. and the remote ballast, where in a some thread were you all describing it?

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: hihungry]
    #382302 - 03/11/10 10:33 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I made that and home depot has them for 40 dollars and they are even cheaper online

and all of the ones I have bought come with a bulb...not the best but it works until you decide to upgrade...i mean youre using a security light so i doubt the bulb type is of much concern to you


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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: hihungry]
    #382318 - 03/11/10 11:20 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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All the sec. lights are nearly $100+ bulb 10-20. and the remote ballast, where in a some thread were you all describing it?




After much searching, I finally found mhound's thread on his cheap HPS light set-up.

Its called "Cheap Bagseed Grow" and its got photos and instructions on how to make the light.

Kinda makes me wonder if I should use that instead of 125 watts of 2700K CFL's for my flowering phase coming up....Hmmm...Have to think about that one.

Hope that helps ya hihungry.

Imagine a The DIY HPS Light.
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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #382324 - 03/11/10 11:30 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

well if anyone is actually doing it let me know and ill explain the wiring a little better and get better pictures before i put on the top..

i dont want anybody getting fried...im so safe with electricity and i almost stuck my finger in a live light socket the other day not fucking paying attention...anyway, yea i dont want this site getting bad rap because i didnt go more in to detail and you like burn down your hood


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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: mhbound]
    #382332 - 03/11/10 11:44 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Good point.

Wiring HPS lights, and writing a guide about how you made it while stoned does sound like a pretty scary combo. And you don't wanna come back here and find out that your advice caused someone's house to catch on fire...that would be the worst!

Maybe come back with a detailed tutorial on how to make them.

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #382339 - 03/11/10 11:53 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Yea I put that in the original post but people just look at the pictures so I'll probably just add some better pictures and a little better explanation..

you pretty much cant mess it up even with my instructions...i mean i can writeup how to do it in 30 seconds but im not going to if nobody is going to use it.


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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: mhbound]
    #382664 - 03/12/10 06:10 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

il let u no if i need the wiring instructions.
iv seen the 100w bulbs at Doit Best but do they sell they security light and ballast there too or just online?

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Re: Light Shopping Today. [Re: hihungry]
    #382666 - 03/12/10 06:14 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

everything is inside 1 light if you look at my pictures you see that i took everything out and then made it a remote ballast to deal with heat

the light comes with the bulb...its in the box...everything is in the box...

you clearly dont need to do this...


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