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Cheap DIY Ebb and Flow for small spaces
    #286339 - 09/25/09 06:22 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Thought I would write up a post for the Ebb and Flow I just put together.  I got the idea from a aeroponic's system I saw on another site. 

Parts list:

1- Large ITSO tote  (from Target) - $8
1- Medium ITSO tote  - $7
1- 175gph water pump  - $15
4- 4" pots if you want to use them- $0.75 ea
1 set of Ebb and Flow fill and drain fittings - $10
1/2" tubing or whatever size fits your pump and fill fittings - $6 for 25'

$49 total not including tax.  I am getting my hydroton and some nutrients for free from a friend, so I saved a little money.



First step is to measure and cut holes for your fill and drain.  Mine needed a 1 1/4" hole.



Install fill and drain.



Hook up tube to water pump and the short fill fitting.



Add water, pots, hydroton, nutrients, lights and grow start growing.



I have not added any of this stuff yet, waiting on my next grow to start using it.  I am planning on doing a grow log when I start using this so everyone can see it in action.  Hopefully someone will find this useful.

Edited by dsotm (09/25/09 08:17 PM)

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Re: Cheap DIY Ebb and Flow for small spaces [Re: dsotm]
    #286362 - 09/25/09 07:16 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I like this man..... its small and simple yet could be effective....cant wait to see it in action


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Re: Cheap DIY Ebb and Flow for small spaces [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #293606 - 10/08/09 12:53 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I like the look of this. I'm thinking about setting up a little something like this in a closet. thanks for some ideas, i'd like to see some pictures of it with some plants.

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Re: Cheap DIY Ebb and Flow for small spaces [Re: jrjr54321]
    #293805 - 10/08/09 06:57 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for sharing!  I'd love to see a grow log using that!


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Re: Cheap DIY Ebb and Flow for small spaces [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #293863 - 10/08/09 09:03 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks.  I just hooked it up today.  I germinated 4 seeds, two Ice and two Bubblegum and put them in the rockwool.  I have a 400w HPS light on the way now.  All I need now is a tent.



Once things start to happen I will take more pics and maybe do a log.

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Re: Cheap DIY Ebb and Flow for small spaces [Re: dsotm]
    #296242 - 10/12/09 11:38 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Right on, simple, inexpensive set-up. I'm defiantly gonna follow this grow. Good Luck! :thumbup:

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Re: Cheap DIY Ebb and Flow for small spaces [Re: dsotm]
    #317562 - 11/17/09 06:46 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I wanted to ask two things:

1. I am always concerned about efficiency of draining/flushing the reservoir. How easy is it to refill/drain your DIY Ebb & Flow?

2. How long does it take to flood the tote? Do you use shorter intervals considering that you are using rockwool?

I like the design; great DIY thread:thumbup:, good luck with the grow


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Re: Cheap DIY Ebb and Flow for small spaces [Re: NightGrower]
    #317564 - 11/17/09 06:49 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Cheap DIY Ebb and Flow for small spaces [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #317648 - 11/18/09 02:51 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Something a little different but the same principal.


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Re: Cheap DIY Ebb and Flow for small spaces [Re: Magash]
    #317667 - 11/18/09 08:25 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Magash said:
Something a little different but the same principal.



isnt it a little bit of a struggle to access the res with this design,
i mean unless you have the pots propped up on something so you can just silde it out from under it, then it seems like it would be kind of hard to access it easily?


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Re: Cheap DIY Ebb and Flow for small spaces [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #318137 - 11/18/09 08:44 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I have personally built this unit, even later, I modified it to hold more sites and even added a bigger reservoir to hold it. Filled it with hydroton expanded clay pellets and used it for about 6-7 weeks before the maintenance and heavy lifting involved in trying to refill it became too much. Switched over to a DWC after that.

Overall: Fun to build, not so fun to operate (unless you can figure out an easy way to fill and drain it for maintenance/flush)


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Re: Cheap DIY Ebb and Flow for small spaces [Re: NightGrower]
    #318287 - 11/18/09 11:47 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Draining can be a pain but there has to be a way to make it easy like making the hose from the pump to the PVC long so the top can be set on something while emptying. Filling is easy if you see in the pic behind the overflow pipe is a hole to get into the res.

Another way is to have a screw cap on the PVC someplace. Open it up and turn on the pump and pump out the water. :wink:


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Re: Cheap DIY Ebb and Flow for small spaces [Re: NightGrower]
    #319833 - 11/22/09 09:31 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Been away for a few days.  I haven't updated my log since the last plant turned out to be a male.  Shitty luck.  I just picked up a few clones recently and have just started them.

To answer your questions:

1:  Changing and cleaning the reservoir is very easy.  Since it only holds 4 gallons of water it is fairly mobile.  I take the plants out and set them in a tray and leave them in the light.  Take the whole thing into the shower and spray and scrub it out, fill it back up and put it back in the tent.  Takes me about 30 min to change the reservoir.

2:  It maybe takes 30 seconds to flood the table and a minute or two to drain.  My timer only turns on in 15 min intervals so that's my flood time.  As seedlings I started flooding 2x per day and the rockwool stayed damp.  As the plants grew I increased the floods up to 15min every 3 hours.  Seemed to work good for me. 

Checking pH and ppm is easy too.  I try to catch it when the table is flooded and just check it from the top.  My timer has a override switch I use if it's not on and I want to check it.  Topping the reservoir is easy too, just dump your water right into the flood table and it drains into the reservoir.

Hope this helped.

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Re: Cheap DIY Ebb and Flow for small spaces [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #332421 - 12/16/09 04:44 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Or you could make life easy and just have the pots propped on a stand like the Dr said.


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