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read this if you take benzos
    #135353 - 10/21/08 11:43 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

caffeine = no good

was actually just researching yerba mate and found:

"Caffeine is known to cause decreased blood levels of benzodiazepines such as diazepam (Valium) or alprazolam (Xanax)."

explains why 50 mg of valium did nothing to me the other night...


also i found this interesting:

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here has been some work to try to reduce the amnesic effects of benzodiazepines and a variety of different chemicals have been tried to block this effect. Some success has been noted with:

    * Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) : There is some preliminary evidence that high doses of Vitamin C may reduce or block benzodiazepine amnesia.
          o Parle M, Dhingra D. Ascorbic Acid : a promising memory-enhancer in mice. J PHarmacol Sci. 2003 Oct; 93(2):129-135. [PubMed Abstract]
    * Piracetam : Piracetam at high doses has been shown to reduce amnesic effects in several drugs, including benzodiazepines.
          o Pan JC, Zhang SS. [Antagonism of piracetam on the amnestic effect of diazepam in mice]. Yao Xue Xue Bao. 1996;31(2):91-4. [PubMed Abstract]
          o Lenegre A, Chermat R, Avril I, Steru L, Porsolt RD. Specificity of piracetam's anti-amnesic activity in three models of amnesia in the mouse. Pharmacol Biochem Behav. 1988 Mar;29(3):625-9. [ PubMed Abstract ]
    * Vinpocetine : Some evidence that vinpocetine may reduce amnesic effects of benzodiazepines.
          o Bhatti JZ, Hindmarch I. Vinpocetine effects on cognitive impairments produced by flunitrazepam. Int Clin Psychopharmacol. 1987 Oct;2(4):325-31. [ PubMed Abstract ]
          o Storm G, Oosterhuis B, Sollie FA, Visscher HW, Sommer W, Beitinger H, Jonkman JH. Lack of pharmacokinetic interaction between vinpocetine and oxazepam. Br J Clin Pharmacol. 1994 Aug;38(2):143-6. [ PubMed Abstract ] (note this did not show memory improvements)





plus like i've mentioned before tagament or white grapefruit juice increases the effects.

guess i'm gonna do some more experimenting  :hehehe:


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Re: read this if you take benzos [Re: usg543]
    #135354 - 10/21/08 11:44 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

youre not gonna get much from valium, unless you combine with with a opiate


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Re: read this if you take benzos [Re: wowitch420]
    #135357 - 10/21/08 11:45 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

ffuucccckkkk.

....white grapefruit juice you say?
:whatwhat:


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Re: read this if you take benzos [Re: wowitch420]
    #135358 - 10/21/08 11:47 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

opiates do nothing for me. at all.

apparently i'm not the only one either.

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Did you also know about 30% of the population is immune to the euphoric effects of opiates? They will kill the pain, just no fun to them. It's all about how your body metabolizes things.




i have no sources to back this up at all, i asked the person who posted this to provide me with a source but i'm still waiting.


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Re: read this if you take benzos [Re: usg543]
    #135360 - 10/21/08 11:49 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i dont think thats true haha
i know someone that is allergic to opiates


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Re: read this if you take benzos [Re: Calibrate]
    #135361 - 10/21/08 11:50 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Calibrate said:
ffuucccckkkk.

....white grapefruit juice you say?
:whatwhat:




100% white grapefruit juice or cimetidine (Tagamet)

you'd have to drink a ton of juice, or you could just pop a few of those pills. in my experience one glass of juice didn't really help.

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got this from Wikipedia:
"Eating grapefruits or drinking grapefruit juice while using alprazolam increases blood concentrations by inhibiting the intestinal metabolism.[38]

In fact, any drug that inhibits CYP3A4, for which alprazolam is a substrate, will increase serum concentrations of alprazolam significantly if administered prior or concurrently. Tagamet (cimetidine) is a widely used H2 blocker antacid that inhibits numerous cytochrome P450 enzymes.

Oral contraceptive pills reduce the clearance of alprazolam, which may lead to increased plasma levels of alprazolam and accumulation."




i'd do your own research, but i'd try the tagamet stuff myself. its OTC.


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Re: read this if you take benzos [Re: wowitch420]
    #135362 - 10/21/08 11:50 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

being allergic to opiates would suck....


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Re: read this if you take benzos [Re: wowitch420]
    #135364 - 10/21/08 11:53 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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wowitch420 said:
i dont think thats true haha
i know someone that is allergic to opiates




well i get absolutely no euphoric effects to opiates/opiate like drugs. tried many different dosages many different times with hydrocodone and oxycodone. tried hydromorphone once with no luck as well. i think next thing i do is just inject some straight up heroin to see if that will do the trick.


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Re: read this if you take benzos [Re: usg543]
    #135365 - 10/21/08 11:55 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

then dont fuck with them


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Re: read this if you take benzos [Re: wowitch420]
    #135369 - 10/22/08 12:03 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

ever try pod tea?


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Re: read this if you take benzos [Re: wowitch420]
    #135408 - 10/22/08 01:24 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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wowitch420 said:
then dont fuck with them




i don't :shrug:


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Re: read this if you take benzos [Re: Calibrate]
    #135409 - 10/22/08 01:25 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Calibrate said:
ever try pod tea?




nope, maybe one day if i have extra cash and feel like experimenting.


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Re: read this if you take benzos [Re: usg543]
    #135470 - 10/22/08 03:05 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i took acid and GHB today. that was fun and confusing,q


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Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
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I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.


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Re: read this if you take benzos [Re: still beLIEve]
    #135471 - 10/22/08 03:06 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

lol i thought the title read
read this until u take benzos
so i went and bought some
then started readin
:dazedandconfused:


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Re: read this if you take benzos [Re: Coaster]
    #135484 - 10/22/08 04:32 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Vitamin C is helpful for potentating any drug


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Re: read this if you take benzos [Re: Picklez]
    #135485 - 10/22/08 04:40 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

and benzos are sick. I spent my entire day barred out. Made school much more enjoyable


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Re: read this if you take benzos [Re: Picklez]
    #135581 - 10/22/08 12:54 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i can only enjoy xanax in the .5 to 1mg range, anything more and i just lay down or sit in an awake coma.


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Re: read this if you take benzos [Re: Coaster]
    #694596 - 11/19/13 11:19 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Coaster said:
lol i thought the title read
read this until u take benzos
so i went and bought some
then started readin
:dazedandconfused:





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Re: read this if you take benzos [Re: King Koopa]
    #694621 - 11/20/13 03:22 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I just took some benzos, no caffeine, but there is some booze invloved


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Re: read this if you take benzos [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #694625 - 11/20/13 10:08 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

What the holy fuck?


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Re: read this if you take benzos [Re: Coaster]
    #694672 - 11/20/13 02:09 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Coaster said:
lol i thought the title read
read this until u take benzos
so i went and bought some
then started readin
:dazedandconfused:



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Re: read this if you take benzos [Re: King Koopa]
    #695018 - 11/22/13 08:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

damn you bumped an old-ass thread. :hi5:

i am pretty sure i was barred out of my mind during this stage of my life. i used to love benzos. glad i was smart enough to not let myself get addicted. i had access to ridiculous amounts. left that life behind. still occasionally ponder about asking my doc to write me a script, but i don't know if i'd be as strong today haha. can't remember how long it's been but the last time, i was dating a girl that knew i liked xanax so she would get me xanax. she got a handful of footballs. i put two footballs in the smaller front right pocket that my jeans had. they fit in snugly. i didn't find them until a month later. even after doing laundry they were fully intact... blew my mind. found them while i was at a party about to start drinking. it was a cool experience because i didn't even know i was missing two footballs... this could have ended very badly but instead it ended with an awesome party with one of my favorite drugs. only things i do now are weed and beer.


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