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Re: Post something positive v3 [Re: yoosername] * 3
    #875912 -

You know, you can decrease your own meds... Start taking less of them, split them down, etc...
No one knows you better than you do, especially not some doctor that can't make up their own mind without the consultation of a fucking artificial "intelligence" being manipulated by those that created it. She's already lost your respect. Forget her.

β€œIt is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society”

That doctor is nothing but a spokesperson for a sick society.
It may be a cliche quote at this point, but it's still valid nonetheless.

You're good, man. You're writing coherently in your responses, so you aren't losing it.
Everyone is stretched thin, everyones fucked up in some way, especially me. It's no easy task trying to find your way in this rat race. No reason to let them drug you out. No good comes of it.
Much love Brother. Follow your heart


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π”Žπ”’π”’π”­ 𝔢𝔬𝔲𝔯 𝔭𝔯𝔦𝔫𝔠𝔦𝔭𝔩𝔒𝔰 π”°π”±π”―π”žπ”¦π”€π”₯𝔱, 𝔢𝔬𝔲𝔯 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔑𝔲𝔠𝔱
𝔬𝔫 𝔭𝔬𝔦𝔫𝔱, π”žπ”«π”‘ 𝔢𝔬𝔲𝔯 𝔠π”₯π”žπ”―π”žπ” π”±π”’π”― π”žπ”Ÿπ”¬π”³π”’ π”žπ”©π”©...

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Re: Post something positive v3 [Re: Fleabag Friend] * 1
    #875913 -

I appreciate you man, and I completely agree, but it’s complicated.  I originally tried quitting cold turkey, which lead to withdrawal, which is symptomatically indistinguishable from relapse, which gets you a free ride to the loony bin in the back of a cop car.  Once there you get drugged out of your mind and released a week later, which leads you to try quitting again, and the cycle repeats.

Eventually I learned the correct way to quit them, which is a hyperbolic taper, but by then I was already court ordered to take the meds, which means any display of anger gets you sent right back to the hospital.  They also recently made it much easier to get a court order for treatment, so I have to tread carefully.

I’ve been on a monthly injectable since 2018, so even without the court order I couldn’t adjust the dose on my own without outright refusing it.  A few years ago my cousin gave me some cubes, and that first dose (along with some excellent advice from my grandpa) set me back on the right path.

I’ve since reduced my injection to the lowest dose, and developed a plan with my psychiatrist to quit them entirely.  She can be ignorant on many topics, which is why I won’t tell her that I’ve been using shrooms 3x per week for the past two years, but she is willing to prescribe an oral med in liquid form to make it easier for me to taper, so I am willing to work with her for now.

That said, I still deeply despise the way her profession functions as a cog in the great machine, and dream of the day when it all comes crashing down.

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Re: Post something positive v3 [Re: yoosername] * 1
    #875914 -

Damn, court orders, injectables... certainly factors I hadnt considered.

I wish you the best! :hug: I've had a taste of the judicial system with a mandated interlock and probationary period for a dwi offense, so I'm familiar with the suffocating oppression of being stuck under the thumb of morons. Just gotta bite your lip and do your time so you can get away. I'm sorry to hear its for anger no less, lord knows I've certainly gotten angry and nearly thrown it all away a few times.

There was one instance that stands out where I was fully convinced at work that when my boss drove back to my side of the construction site I was going to go berserk on him in his truck with a chain boomer off a semi trailer I was unloading, if not brain him with it. I was waiting there just stewing. Either he knew better or the universe was looking out for me because I was able to avoid him for the rest of the day and I was able to sleep it off. They've all seen me lose my temper out there and probably thought I was fucking nuts, but who isnt on a construction site?


Dang, 3 times a week? I'm assuming thats microdoses, because I know my tolerance usually had to reset for a week for a tripping dose to feel right.
How is that treating you?


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π”Žπ”’π”’π”­ 𝔢𝔬𝔲𝔯 𝔭𝔯𝔦𝔫𝔠𝔦𝔭𝔩𝔒𝔰 π”°π”±π”―π”žπ”¦π”€π”₯𝔱, 𝔢𝔬𝔲𝔯 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔑𝔲𝔠𝔱
𝔬𝔫 𝔭𝔬𝔦𝔫𝔱, π”žπ”«π”‘ 𝔢𝔬𝔲𝔯 𝔠π”₯π”žπ”―π”žπ” π”±π”’π”― π”žπ”Ÿπ”¬π”³π”’ π”žπ”©π”©...

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Re: Post something positive v3 [Re: Fleabag Friend] * 1
    #875915 -

It’s going pretty well so far.  Been taking mini doses of between 100-200mg, which would be microdose territory if they weren’t the strongest variety known to man (pan cyan, TTBVI).  I get a pretty strong trippy feeling, but almost no visuals.  I think that’s due to the meds altering my brain chemistry, as well as the trip blocking effects of the meds themselves.

The shrooms also helped me quit using weed, as I had been a 2-4g per day toker for many years.  I’m planning on getting back into that though, but with higher CBD/CBG strains instead of THC.  After a 6 month T break, even >1% THC flower was enough for me to catch a mild buzz.

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Re: Post something positive v3 [Re: yoosername] * 1
    #875917 -

I broke into the major leagues with the Trip that makes you Flip.


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Mammoth Exercise and Robust Administration
-Dr. Subhash Cock

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Re: Post something positive v3 [Re: yoosername]
    #875924 -

yoosername said:
I appreciate you man, and I completely agree, but it’s complicated.  I originally tried quitting cold turkey, which lead to withdrawal, which is symptomatically indistinguishable from relapse, which gets you a free ride to the loony bin in the back of a cop car.  Once there you get drugged out of your mind and released a week later, which leads you to try quitting again, and the cycle repeats.

Eventually I learned the correct way to quit them, which is a hyperbolic taper, but by then I was already court ordered to take the meds, which means any display of anger gets you sent right back to the hospital.  They also recently made it much easier to get a court order for treatment, so I have to tread carefully.

I’ve been on a monthly injectable since 2018, so even without the court order I couldn’t adjust the dose on my own without outright refusing it.  A few years ago my cousin gave me some cubes, and that first dose (along with some excellent advice from my grandpa) set me back on the right path.

I’ve since reduced my injection to the lowest dose, and developed a plan with my psychiatrist to quit them entirely.  She can be ignorant on many topics, which is why I won’t tell her that I’ve been using shrooms 3x per week for the past two years, but she is willing to prescribe an oral med in liquid form to make it easier for me to taper, so I am willing to work with her for now.

That said, I still deeply despise the way her profession functions as a cog in the great machine, and dream of the day when it all comes crashing down.



What medications are they giving you that you are having a hard time coming off of and experiencing withdrawal? Figure you mean some sort of sedatives or anti-depressants/anti-psychotics.


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β€œIf anyone tells you that a certain person speaks ill of you, do not make excuses about what is said of you but answer, "He was ignorant of my other faults, else he would not have mentioned these alone.”
                                                          - Epictetus

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Re: Post something positive v3 [Re: Brother Goose]
    #875929 -

Antipsychotics, official diagnosis is schizophrenia.  The long term d2 blockade results in d2 hypersensitivity, so I’m trying a hyperbolic taper in conjunction with supplements that can potentially help reset my dopamine system (lions mane extract, sulforaphane, etc).

The diagnosis and medications came days after I ended up swallowing mercury during a dental procedure, which resulted in psychosis along with all the telltale signs of mercury poisoning.  That type of mercury won’t show up on hair follicle, urine, or blood tests, but try explaining that to a doctor while presenting with psychosis :rofl:

According to my medical records, I have β€œdelusions of mercury poisoning”.  I’ve come to accept that most people in positions of power are just plain idiots :shrug:

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Re: Post something positive v3 [Re: yoosername] * 1
    #875930 -

Dang, guess you became a genuine Mad Hatter? Its been said the mercury in old top hats and such used to cause the same problems. Sorry to hear it, im pretty appalled that no credence is being given to swallowing mercury as being a problem. The system is fucked.


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β€œIf anyone tells you that a certain person speaks ill of you, do not make excuses about what is said of you but answer, "He was ignorant of my other faults, else he would not have mentioned these alone.”
                                                          - Epictetus

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Re: Post something positive v3 [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #875933 -

:lolwut::getstoned::awehigh:

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Re: Post something positive v3 [Re: Brother Goose] * 1
    #875935 -

Exactly.  On one hand, I understand where they’re coming from.  They are taught that the most simple explanation is usually the correct one, and delusions of poisoning are common with schizophrenia.  On the other hand, I can present my case with scientific citations and logical reasoning, but it’s as if their mental firmware is fundamentally incapable of logical processing.  Super frustrating.

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Re: Post something positive v3 [Re: yoosername]
    #875942 -

I would say if you swallowed some kind of amalgam at the dentists office, you are more than okay. I can't imagine it being much different than swallowing any other kind of metal and that it would "pass through" you in the time it takes to digest the last meal you ate. Any "absorption" would probably be as negligible as what you would be exposed to by eating canned tuna (if thats even true)

I dont think it's really as dangerous as its made out to be. I played with the stuff a bit when I was a kid, came out of an old thermostat, kept it in a little jar in my room. A lot of the scary shit you hear being associated with mercury are the compounds, and not necessarily the elemental mercury itself. You are exposed to worse stuff at the gas pump. My fathers teefs are full of those fillings. He also chewed on lead fishing weights as kid. He's fine:thumbup: 
And you have to consider how all these scientific studies can be manipulated by companies that provide alternative products, trying to elbow their way into already established markets. It's easy to get everyone to use your fancy new resin fillings when you claim your competitors are poisoning everyone. That almighty one eyed dollar can do funny things.

Regardless, having concerns about it shouldn't be grounds to consider you crazy either.

If you're still truly concerned about it, you can always lie. Say you got exposed to mercury at work or accidentally broke a vintage thermometer in your mouth or something, I'm sure they will be happy to run any and all kind of test for you.


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π”Žπ”’π”’π”­ 𝔢𝔬𝔲𝔯 𝔭𝔯𝔦𝔫𝔠𝔦𝔭𝔩𝔒𝔰 π”°π”±π”―π”žπ”¦π”€π”₯𝔱, 𝔢𝔬𝔲𝔯 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔑𝔲𝔠𝔱
𝔬𝔫 𝔭𝔬𝔦𝔫𝔱, π”žπ”«π”‘ 𝔢𝔬𝔲𝔯 𝔠π”₯π”žπ”―π”žπ” π”±π”’π”― π”žπ”Ÿπ”¬π”³π”’ π”žπ”©π”©...

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Re: Post something positive v3 [Re: Fleabag Friend] * 3
    #875947 -

I threw out my Turmeric, Ginger and Black Pepper Complex!
It is more toxic than Plain Turmeric.

I learn a lot of Underlying Theory from studying Herbs.
I have found that I studied in the wrong order, but I get it through repetition.
I am learning from Books and YouTube.  I want to Master what I can and then get a Deep Degree and a License!




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Mammoth Exercise and Robust Administration
-Dr. Subhash Cock

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Re: Post something positive v3 [Re: Solid Log] * 2
    #875948 -

You need black pepper to make the turmeric bioavailable though.


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β€œIf anyone tells you that a certain person speaks ill of you, do not make excuses about what is said of you but answer, "He was ignorant of my other faults, else he would not have mentioned these alone.”
                                                          - Epictetus

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Re: Post something positive v3 [Re: Solid Log]
    #875949 -

Why would ginger and black pepper make tumeric more toxic?

Did you make that video?


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π”Žπ”’π”’π”­ 𝔢𝔬𝔲𝔯 𝔭𝔯𝔦𝔫𝔠𝔦𝔭𝔩𝔒𝔰 π”°π”±π”―π”žπ”¦π”€π”₯𝔱, 𝔢𝔬𝔲𝔯 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔑𝔲𝔠𝔱
𝔬𝔫 𝔭𝔬𝔦𝔫𝔱, π”žπ”«π”‘ 𝔢𝔬𝔲𝔯 𝔠π”₯π”žπ”―π”žπ” π”±π”’π”― π”žπ”Ÿπ”¬π”³π”’ π”žπ”©π”©...

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Re: Post something positive v3 [Re: Fleabag Friend]
    #875950 -

Fleabag Friend said:
Did you make that video?



DAMN! It's The Log, in the flesh! Gracing us with a live one!



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π”Žπ”’π”’π”­ 𝔢𝔬𝔲𝔯 𝔭𝔯𝔦𝔫𝔠𝔦𝔭𝔩𝔒𝔰 π”°π”±π”―π”žπ”¦π”€π”₯𝔱, 𝔢𝔬𝔲𝔯 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔑𝔲𝔠𝔱
𝔬𝔫 𝔭𝔬𝔦𝔫𝔱, π”žπ”«π”‘ 𝔢𝔬𝔲𝔯 𝔠π”₯π”žπ”―π”žπ” π”±π”’π”― π”žπ”Ÿπ”¬π”³π”’ π”žπ”©π”©...

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Re: Post something positive v3 [Re: Fleabag Friend]
    #875951 -

I've been drinking the recommended dose.
It's toxic as all hell busting all over.
I also have Reishi Mushroom and Danshen.
I have some Yellow Mustard Seed if I need a laxative.  It works better than the Senna.
They cut out all the bulk deals on Herbs and Foods and everything is smaller and costs more.


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-Dr. Subhash Cock

Edited by Solid Log (05/02/26 08:44 PM)

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Re: Post something positive v3 [Re: Fleabag Friend]
    #875952 -

I’ve done a fair amount of research on the topic of amalgams.  While it’s true that resin filling companies have a motive to claim they are toxic, there is also great incentive in suppressing the dangers of these fillings, considering they’ve been in use for over a century and many of the companies that produced them are still around today.

Mercury is the most toxic non-radioactive element known to man.  While it’s true that methyl mercury is much more hazardous, inorganic and elemental mercury are still highly toxic, and in some cases even more toxic.  The main difference is in how readily they are absorbed.  As you know, you can hold elemental mercury in your hand, and it causes no noticeable harm.  But two drops of methyl mercury on a gloved hand is enough to kill you.

Amalgam fillings release the most mercury when they are placed and removed, but they also slowly off-gas mercury vapor at a rate of approximately 10 micrograms per filling, per day.  Doesn’t sound like much, but with as many fillings as I had, that was over 40mg of mercury per year.

For most people, swallowing mercury might not produce a noticeable effect due to the larger particle size.  But for people like me with digestive disorders, our leaky guts can let larger particle sizes through.  In addition, the bile ducts are the main excretion pathway for mercury, so for those with a leaky gut, the mercury is often reabsorbed before it can be excreted, resulting in a never ending cycle of new toxic events.

Many people claim that amalgams are harmless due to the fact that they’ve never noticed any harm from them, but you have to consider that mercury is effectively a slow-poison.  It is incredibly difficult to remove from the body, with a binding affinity for thiols that is 1,000,000,000 times stronger than zinc.  It acts as a toxin amplifier, ie increasing the toxicity of lead by 100 fold. It damages DNA and acts as a intergenerational toxin, leaving the offspring more susceptible to its effects with each generation. 

And the thing is, any effect it has on you could be easily misattributed to other factors, such as the natural effects of growing older.  It would be impossible to distinguish between what happens naturally and what was being accelerated by a potent neurotoxin, especially when that neurotoxin doesn’t show up on the standard lab tests designed to detect it.

The day I swallowed it, I had 5 fillings removed.  The protective equipment they used to prevent you from swallowing it was the wrong size for my mouth, and instead washed it down my throat.  The dentist used a high speed drill, which releases more vapor and much smaller particles than a more appropriate low speed one.  After the procedure, I was pulling small chunks of amalgam out of my mouth, and my spit was dark brown.  I had a loud ringing in my ears, a strong metallic taste in my mouth, my throat was sore, and I couldn’t eat (or shit) for 4 days.  On the first day, I thought β€œmaybe it’s really as harmless as they say”.  I snuck into my local uni’s rec center and took a sauna, I went to the library and read a book. On my way home, I started getting a real uneasy feeling.  Over the next few days I became more disoriented, and by the fourth day I decided to go to the hospital to see a toxicologist.  Sadly, I never got the chance.

Anyways, that’s enough rambling for one day :feelsoldman:

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Re: Post something positive v3 [Re: yoosername] * 2
    #875955 -

yoosername said:
And the thing is, any effect it has on you could be easily misattributed to other factors, such as the natural effects of growing older.  It would be impossible to distinguish between what happens naturally and what was being accelerated by a potent neurotoxin, especially when that neurotoxin doesn’t show up on the standard lab tests designed to detect it.



So then what are you stressin' for, big dawg?
:rollsafe:
Aint none of us getting out of this mahfugga alive.

If you cant tell if its just father time or some chicken shit runny ass metal, then whats the big deal?

The placebo effect has demonstrated time and again that the mind is the most powerful tool at our disposal. People miraculously recovering from terminal illness with nothing but a sugar pill and some hope:thumbup:

Lighten up bubba, youre cool


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π”Žπ”’π”’π”­ 𝔢𝔬𝔲𝔯 𝔭𝔯𝔦𝔫𝔠𝔦𝔭𝔩𝔒𝔰 π”°π”±π”―π”žπ”¦π”€π”₯𝔱, 𝔢𝔬𝔲𝔯 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔑𝔲𝔠𝔱
𝔬𝔫 𝔭𝔬𝔦𝔫𝔱, π”žπ”«π”‘ 𝔢𝔬𝔲𝔯 𝔠π”₯π”žπ”―π”žπ” π”±π”’π”― π”žπ”Ÿπ”¬π”³π”’ π”žπ”©π”©...

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Re: Post something positive v3 [Re: Fleabag Friend]
    #875972 -

But remember, the placebo effect goes both ways.  Long ago there was a Chinese emperor who thought drinking mercury would make him immortal.  Instead he went crazy :lol:

I’m not too stressed about it these days, I’ve more or less come to terms with my fate.  But it still irks me to see people deny the possibility that a lifetime of exposure to one of the worst environmental toxins can contribute to accelerated aging, disease development and progression, and genetic problems for our offspring.

Like, how would you feel if you realized your lifespan was shortened by 20 years, you were at risk of developing a metabolic syndrome in your 30s, and you would likely develop dementia 20 years earlier than most, all because of factors that could have easily been prevented?  That’s the situation I’m in, my life has not only been cut short, but reduced in quality, and that shit bugs me.

My main goal now is damage mitigation, which is why I’ve spent the majority of the past decade learning all I can about natural medicine and the nature of disease.

And you’re right, we all die someday, it’s not worth stressing over things we can’t control.  But as they say in AA, β€œGrant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I cannot accept, and the wisdom to know the difference.” 

I’m not ready to surrender control when I know I can do better, at least for myself in my own life.  But I have largely given up on trying to teach others to see things from my perspective.  One of the harshest realizations I’ve come to is that the vast majority of humans do not seek the truth.  Consequently, an obsession with the truth is all that is required to be regarded as insane.

Now if you’ll excuse me, we’re getting our first thunderstorm of the year, and I am feeling the need to stand naked in the rain :crazy2:

Also, thanks for discussing this with me.  It’s therapeutic to speak my truth.

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Re: Post something positive v3 [Re: Solid Log]
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Solid Log, have you ever experimented with broccoli sprouts?  Very cheap and easy to prepare at home with a quart jar and a special lid, requires rinsing with fresh water 2-3x per day and a bit of sunshine, and then they are ready to eat within a week.

Very high in sulforaphane, I chew up a wad of them a few times a day and it produces a noticeable cognitive effect.

It is said that Hippocrates located his clinics near fresh streams so they would have easy access to watercress, which is in the same family as broccoli and also produces this compound.

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