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OfflineLofetospoon9
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Hydroton flower table problems
    #827713 - 07/29/17 03:20 AM (18 days, 5 hours ago)

I took cuttings from soil mothers, rooted them in a verm/perlite mix for about 2 and a half weeks, then transplanted to 2.5 liter pots i think, about half filled with hydroton in a flood table. I put them under 12/12 hps when i transplated. That was about 3 weeks ago. I started feeding them 500ppm clonex about a week and a half ago. Ive been watering by hand waiting for roots to show before i start the pump. They perked up a little since ive been feeding them. However, im only seeing brown, smelly roots.



I ph my water to 6 of course, and my temps and humidity levels are in good ranges. I water them overhead about 3 times every 24 hours.
Any advice?



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Re: Hydroton flower table problems [Re: Lofetospoon9]
    #827714 - 07/29/17 03:50 AM (18 days, 5 hours ago)

You rockin any microbes?  It's good to keep the res inoculated.  You could try watering with AACT or bottled microbes and see if you notice a difference.


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Re: Hydroton flower table problems [Re: yoosername]
    #827715 - 07/29/17 04:29 AM (18 days, 4 hours ago)

I have not. From what i thought i was supposed to be running a sterile system, idk much about working with ben. Bacteria and such in a system like this. And what is AACT?


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Re: Hydroton flower table problems [Re: Lofetospoon9]
    #827716 - 07/29/17 05:00 AM (18 days, 3 hours ago)

Actively Aerated Compost Tea, basically worm poo and molasses in a bucket with a pump/air stone.  Breeds bennies on the cheap.  The system isn't really "sterile" if exposed to open air, it may start out sanitary, but eventually things are going to grow.  The idea is to establish a balance of beneficials that can prevent contaminants like root rot from getting a foothold.  Certain microbes can also process nutrients into more usable forms for plants (like Mammoth P.) so it's nice to have some diversity.


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Re: Hydroton flower table problems [Re: yoosername]
    #827730 - 07/30/17 10:54 AM (16 days, 22 hours ago)

I only used hydroton two times, it is a shitty substrate to say the least lots of dead roots and very little bud. I use rockwool or stonewool slabs and cubes they work much better at keeping the roots happy and better yet buds huge. You can also use coco fiber slabs as well.
In my experience Hydroton is useful in my fruiting chambers to keep my shrooms hydrated but is useless for growing plants.


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Re: Hydroton flower table problems [Re: Rider420]
    #827731 - 07/30/17 11:40 AM (16 days, 21 hours ago)

This is with plain old lava rock from Home Depot. I've done exactly the same with hydroton which is what is currently being used.



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Re: Hydroton flower table problems [Re: Magash]
    #827732 - 07/30/17 12:54 PM (16 days, 20 hours ago)

Looks like you have got lava working well kudos.  Lots of plants about a hundred? Hard to get a license for those many plants and recreational growers in Canada will only be allowed only four plants.

Personally due to the five plant medical limit I have to deal with I find growing five trees using scog on two slabs of rockwool produces far more then five trees with DWC, Hydroton or sunshine mix using scog, but if you can run those numbers of plants you have shown that lava rock is more cost effective and just as good.

Just wondering have you tired rockwool cubes next to your lava clay just for shits and giggles?


Edited by Rider420 (07/30/17 01:06 PM)


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Re: Hydroton flower table problems [Re: Rider420] * 1
    #827733 - 07/30/17 01:28 PM (16 days, 19 hours ago)

Hey I'm not knocking anything you said rockwool is where I started way back in the 80s. My first system used slabs and they had great results.

From what you're saying you a little more like this


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Re: Hydroton flower table problems [Re: Magash]
    #827734 - 07/30/17 04:03 PM (16 days, 16 hours ago)

:homerdrool: holy crap Mag...


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Re: Hydroton flower table problems [Re: Magash]
    #827739 - 07/31/17 10:33 AM (15 days, 22 hours ago)

Quote:

Magash said:
Hey I'm not knocking anything you said rockwool is where I started way back in the 80s. My first system used slabs and they had great results.

From what you're saying you a little more like this


:happyweed:




Like I said kudos for getting laval rocks rocking.

And YES that plant is trained in the same screen of green that I use, but I use a non recovery drip system rather then a recirculating system.

Funny thing is a lot people in Canada think four plants that are only a meter tall are not enough for personal use but when you grow them like that you can get over two pounds from just four plants under 800 to 1000 watts in less then three months. Since I only grow for myself two cycles is more then I need.

Best of luck buddy have a great day.


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