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Who likes ID'ing defects?
    #800154 - 12/01/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: Greenthumber]
    #800167 - 12/01/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I see no deficiency. 

What kind of soil are you using?  How big of a container is it in, lights etc.  There's actually a questionnaire at the top of this forum that would be really helpful when filled out


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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #800188 - 12/01/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: Greenthumber]
    #800224 - 12/02/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Stop watering.  I guarantee that you are already over watering.  In doing so you are drowning the roots. 

They don't look like they really need anything but more light to be honest.  Hold off on fertilizing, way to young at this point for that.

And ease way up on the watering


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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: Greenthumber] * 1
    #800269 - 12/03/15 07:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Okay so I saw the questionaire after I posted. This layout is identical to the shroomery, and they have a similar form for ID'ing wild finds.

5. What is your soil mix? Organic Vigoro, mixed with some perlite, and a couple hands full of peat moss



First soil I used with Organic Vigoro from Lowes..I still have an unopened bag of it. It was terrible lol my plants hated it. They barely grew in the stuff. I switched over to Happy Frog and BAM they were lovin' it. Now I mix Happy Frog and Ocean Forest soils but I guess OF is all the rage these days lol. I just mixed because I had both but probably going to coco next grow.

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6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use and how much you give per watering? Uhh, a Liter every three or so days, today I flushed the whole bucket with about 1 gallon of water. The water is just tap
7. What is the pH of your water? Don't know right now, testing strips avalible tomorrow.



PH is most likely the culprit of any problems you're seeing. Marijuana plants are extremely sensitive to PH values I've noticed. Proper PH is one of the most important things to maintain and it'll throw things off bad if it's messed up. Learn how to properly water by waiting until the top 1"-2" of the soil is dry. The plants use less water when they are small so you will have to water less than when they are big. It's easy to tell when your plants need watered just by picking them up and feeling the weight too..after a few times it'll be obvious when they need watered.

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15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space? A few gnats, I fucked up flushing the bucket today, i should have let it keep drying out, but I plan on allowing the top layer to get pretty dry this time to combat any possible gnat larvae
16. How much experience do you have growing? Zilcho



If there are gnats, get those yellow sticky cards and kill them!! Trust me once those fuckers lay eggs in the soil, with you watering as much as you are, they are going to be EVERYWHERE. I had a hell of a time getting rid of them I was battling them for months...that soil you're using doesn't help with that either I'm sure. Fuck those things!

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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: Scribbler]
    #800395 - 12/04/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: Greenthumber]
    #800402 - 12/04/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

They look pretty good to me dude


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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #800403 - 12/04/15 02:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Okay thanks guy, i really appreciate the reassurance

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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: Greenthumber]
    #800463 - 12/04/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #800513 - 12/05/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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They look pretty good to me dude




I concur :thumbup:

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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: ShroomingChaos]
    #800643 - 12/07/15 11:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: Greenthumber]
    #800645 - 12/08/15 01:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Judging by your first pic even though people sayint they look good, my first thought was a microscopic mite such as broad mites .
Everyone everyonnnne is getting them.
they like the cold and you'll see them starting in late fall and likewise they hate heat...
first clue was the leaf curl and secondly the holes, extreme yellowing new growth...
I think those kinds of microscopic mites are more common than people know and they go unseen...

Just a thought


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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: oeric mckenna]
    #800647 - 12/08/15 08:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Look under the leaves for mites if you think you have them.

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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: Scribbler]
    #800663 - 12/08/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Unlike spidermites, these cannot be seen with the naked eye!


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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: oeric mckenna]
    #800754 - 12/08/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Oh dang my bad!

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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: Scribbler]
    #800811 - 12/09/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm interested to see if it could be broad mites.  Sounds like this is something that's on the rise


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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: Scribbler]
    #800860 - 12/09/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Fuck guys, I think solved the problem.. So I've only fed twice since the op. Only watered three times, one of those were the initial watering after transplanting in new soil. The second watering was done with a high alkalide PH (7.5-8.0), as would have al the watering prior to the third feeding which was on saturday.. Ready?

After realizing the necessity for a balanced and leveled Source of water, I went stupidly out to all the hardware stores and couldn't find anything that I thought would help me (soiltest, water ph test strips, etc); pool season is closed couldn't even get fucking ph strips at home-depot, the fuck? Anyways, I had this brilliant idea to go to the pet store and look down the aquarium aisle. Found my test strips. Along with what looked like the perfect solution. And it was relativly cheap..  Ph up in one bottle, ph down in another. "Finally, good water for the babies", if only they knew I never meant to hurt them. Anyways, its one of those kinda things where you look at the plant, and they look okay, but upon closer inspection you can literally see my Rookiness.

As for a solution to the issue at hand, I think I'll have to get some fox farm sledgehammer and flush the soil really really really good, let it dry a few days, then continue watering from here on out with distilled water from the stoe. (would a brita filter refresh the ph level in my tap water? Sounds like a retarded question tho)

The mites (if I indeed do have them) have been at bay, and that is to say no new holes in the leaves. And I took a friends advice of gently rubbing my thumb over the leaf to aid in removal.

Sorry for the massive photo size guys..






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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: Greenthumber]
    #800866 - 12/09/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hold up, your feeding them?


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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #800880 - 12/09/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Just following fox farm's feeding chart, Should I not be? These guys are at week 4 and we started around week 3.25.. And very very light amounts. I mean a tablespoon/gallon, about half what is recommended? Oyy.. School me.

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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: Greenthumber]
    #800890 - 12/09/15 11:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It's measured in tsp/gallon not tbsp/gallon.

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    #800925 - 12/10/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So you're over feeding them.  The nutrients already existing in the soil are more than enough for a seedling.


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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #800929 - 12/10/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You're going to want a PH meter. Those strips aren't very accurate and PH is IMPORTANT. Spend $20 and get yourself a cheap PH meter!

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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: Scribbler]
    #801018 - 12/10/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: Greenthumber]
    #801091 - 12/11/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

There isn't a set guide.  There are a lot of variables that are going to go into this.  Size of container, type of substrate, lights, environmental conditions.

So to start, how big of a container is it in?  What kind of lights are you running?  What kind of soil?


Also. Sounds like you need this


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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: Greenthumber]
    #801101 - 12/12/15 12:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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It's measured in tsp/gallon not tbsp/gallon.



While you're right; they call for 6 tsp=2 tbl. So I cut that in half, but if I'm jumping the gun to soon feeding,  can someone accurately describe how to recognize when it is appropriate? Maybe I had difficultly recognizing when to transition from seedling to week 1, cause I considered week 2 to start on the second monday after covering the germinated seed in soil. As mentioned earlier we only started feeding recently, around the 3week mark with the 2 week recomendations cut in half (I also left 'Grow big' out for a week and then only started with 2tsp/gal on wednesday.)

http://m.imgur.com/OlZMoRX.jpg

They're looking a lot better today actually though after a thorough rinsing with distilled water. It really is quite an experience watching these plants get bigger and stronger everyday.

Anyways as for the PH testing, dude thank you, 20 bucks is a steal. I hate that stupid powder and water mix test. I'm fucking red green colorblind as is, then they wanna make green/brown/red shaded tests. So not only is there a factor of base inaccuracy due to the physical processes in that particular test, but also the fact that I could not just potentially, but easily interpret the results outright wrong lmao..

Encouraging words and any advice for moving forward will be much appreciated.



Ah yes that makes sense now lol. I don't think that's the right chart btw..at least not the one I use, which is this one.



That little of nutes I don't think should hurt the plants, but I would hold off until they are bit bigger.

Make sure to get some calibration solution and PH up & down with your meter. My pen was -.5 off for awhile so my PH was .5 lower than what it was reading and I fucked up some plants.

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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: Scribbler]
    #801572 - 12/16/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Update. Things look to be going pretty well, starting to really understand how much room i'm dedicating to these two. Not really sure what to expect as far as height, groth rate, or further devolpment, and honestly this is the longest I've ever had any plant thrive during it's vegatative state, much less fruit. So it's thrilling to see an extra inch of height and set of nodes just about every other day, I can even begin to see what looks like pistols forming! Enjoy the cinematography.

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Re: Who likes ID'ing defects? [Re: Greenthumber]
    #801614 - 12/17/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I can't see your pictures dude upload them to the site so we can they are freaking huge.

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    #801793 - 12/18/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I can't see your pictures dude upload them to the site so we can they are freaking huge.





Agreed!  Way to fucking huge lol

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