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 cheezymold
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 Kratom...never again... 
#761605 - 12/14/14 03:25 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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It is a shame really. I love the feeling of it, but it 100% of the time makes me puke, and feel nauseated for the rest of the day. I've tried everything I can think of to prevent it (ginger, antacids, empty stomach, grapefruit juice, making tea, capsules, hot water extract). I've only had bali and white vein thai so far but both the same thing. Kratom...why you hate me for?
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 Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: cheezymold]
#761626 - 12/14/14 08:43 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Same thing for me. No matter what dosage or the method of consumption I got uncomfortably nauseous.
I think I'll try it again and build up the dosage very slowly starting very small.
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: drawde]
#761633 - 12/14/14 09:21 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its always like that for me after a break. One thing that helped in the past was a motion sickness chewable called Bonnie. Let me find a link real quick.
It will help for the first couple days and once your body gets use to it, you will no longer need to take the pill.
Worth a shot...
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy]
#761634 - 12/14/14 09:25 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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http://www.bonine.com/
If you can't find that exact brand, look up the ingrediants and find another brand with the same shit.
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Lessons learned then gradually surfacing, Letting go, stripping naked to scream
I am not perfect nor do I strive to be, I am alive in this world of face first falls and public breakdowns
I'm a retarded, disfigured clown
Dying to be heard through the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
I'm an equal being of no race, or color, a hallucination if you will
Sneaking into the lives of strangers, and letting them fall apart to a new rhythm just to feel better
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poor boy
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy]
#761635 - 12/14/14 09:26 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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How does your body react if you take only 4gs?
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy]
#761637 - 12/14/14 09:29 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I get that too 
It's not a motion sickness thing for me which opiates always do to me in significant doses, but just an indigestion thing unfortunately. I think its all that plant matter in my guts that makes me sick.
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: RasJeph]
#761641 - 12/14/14 09:32 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well it helps with all sorts of nausea and not just motion sickness.
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I'm an equal being of no race, or color, a hallucination if you will
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy] 2
#761659 - 12/14/14 12:32 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sounds silly to me, taking drugs to make other drugs "not feel bad". If something is gonna make me nauseous and vomit every time I do it, I don't do it.
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poor boy
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Says the guy who drinks horrible beer. You know you throw up a little after each sip.
Seriously though, the sickness only lasts a few days and then you're golden. The pos out weighs the negs immensely.
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy]
#761710 - 12/14/14 04:42 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Kratom made me feel kinda weird too. And I'm a perk poppin animal.lmao
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: BubbaGump]
#761719 - 12/14/14 05:27 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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i like percs too but their too damn expensive.
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I'm a retarded, disfigured clown
Dying to be heard through the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
I'm an equal being of no race, or color, a hallucination if you will
Sneaking into the lives of strangers, and letting them fall apart to a new rhythm just to feel better
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy]
#761720 - 12/14/14 05:34 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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you guys should just start off with a gram and work your way up. Remember to eat right after wards so your stomach digests it with the food. Food also alleviates the nausea.
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Quote:
UltimateDevotion said:
Sounds silly to me, taking drugs to make other drugs "not feel bad". If something is gonna make me nauseous and vomit every time I do it, I don't do it.
This was actually my rationale for deciding to stop trying lol. I still feel uneasy from yesterday. Mine is a motion sickness for sure, which I'm already pretty sensitive to. I took about 5.4g with a pastry and was projectile vomiting 2 hours later. The leaf matter came out of my nose because I was holding my mouth when I puked. While I was typing this, I reminded myself of it and threw up again 
I think it is telling me to stick with good ol mary jane
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: Sham87] 1
#761727 - 12/14/14 06:37 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sham87 said:
you guys should just start off with a gram and work your way up. Remember to eat right after wards so your stomach digests it with the food. Food also alleviates the nausea.
My first dose ever was 7g and a couple after that I did 14 
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: drawde]
#761730 - 12/14/14 06:57 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am not perfect nor do I strive to be, I am alive in this world of face first falls and public breakdowns
I'm a retarded, disfigured clown
Dying to be heard through the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
I'm an equal being of no race, or color, a hallucination if you will
Sneaking into the lives of strangers, and letting them fall apart to a new rhythm just to feel better
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy]
#761732 - 12/14/14 07:14 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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 If you want try it again with a lower dose. You'll see the hype.
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: Sham87]
#761734 - 12/14/14 07:17 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I did try lower doses when I was experimenting and still got nauseous, but maybe that was a reactionary/conditioning sort of thing from the excessive doses. I will give it another shot sooner or later.
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: drawde]
#761735 - 12/14/14 07:28 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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damn man. Let us know how it goes. Bali seems to be a strong strain, maybe try a white or red vein strain
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: cheezymold]
#761740 - 12/14/14 07:55 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I had the same problem for a long time.
Then I started to have some alcohol with my doses and all my nausea went away.
Maybe that will help?
I  kratom now.
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: Ben18]
#761742 - 12/14/14 08:12 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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If I take anything less than 5g, I have no effect at all besides tasting it when I burp. I stopped drinking years ago so it isn't a good option for me. The only thing I can think of is maybe an A/B extraction. I have such a negative association with kratom now, I might not ever actually get to enjoy it. Maybe for the best since my body is saying it doesn't want it lol.
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: cheezymold]
#761743 - 12/14/14 08:32 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I felt the same way, anything under 7 I didn't notice anything except the nausea. At 14 I finally felt the 'effects' well but was dying from the nausea.
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: drawde]
#761763 - 12/15/14 07:57 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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The way you guys are with kratom is how I am with bud. Well, not the sickness, but how it doesn't sit right with me.
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Lessons learned then gradually surfacing, Letting go, stripping naked to scream
I am not perfect nor do I strive to be, I am alive in this world of face first falls and public breakdowns
I'm a retarded, disfigured clown
Dying to be heard through the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
I'm an equal being of no race, or color, a hallucination if you will
Sneaking into the lives of strangers, and letting them fall apart to a new rhythm just to feel better
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy]
#761769 - 12/15/14 09:21 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I had some awesome Kratom for my first time. I only took about 4-5g of the stuff and it knocked me out. It must have been a strong batch because next time I bought the same stuff, it was shit and made me puke.
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 Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy]
#762021 - 12/16/14 06:44 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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drawde said:
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Sham87 said:
you guys should just start off with a gram and work your way up. Remember to eat right after wards so your stomach digests it with the food. Food also alleviates the nausea.
My first dose ever was 7g and a couple after that I did 14
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: closed veil]
#762033 - 12/16/14 08:12 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: drawde]
#762035 - 12/16/14 08:15 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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 Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: drawde]
#762078 - 12/17/14 08:18 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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14 g seems to be my 'go to' dose. Real strong effects, long lasting, almost nod like yet I stay alert and active,
and I haven't experienced any nausea.
I did however, just order a gel cap packing kit because I am getting tired of washing down that much powder.
Also received an email from my vendor about them switching sources to improve quality control.
I need to be careful with this kratom though, I'm really starting to like this stuff a lot.
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: vinsue]
#762121 - 12/17/14 05:09 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's the perfect plant next to good ol' maryjane.
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: drawde]
#762127 - 12/17/14 05:50 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I felt the same way, anything under 7 I didn't notice anything except the nausea. At 14 I finally felt the 'effects' well but was dying from the nausea.
If I take any more than 5g at once I'll likely have some nausea and a light headed dizzy feeling for a little while after taking it....but 5g will also have me on the verge of nodding if it's a red vein, or way uplifted and euphoric if it's something like a thai or white vein. Anything over 5g at once and I'm probably going to puke, I can spread out my dosage over a couple hours and be fine though. For my self it's the stimulating strains, thais, whites, horned leaf & maeng da that seems to bring about the nauseated dysphoric feels more than the others.
I finally weighed out my typical dose (before I was using a tea-spoon to measure my dose) and it turns out I've been taking 2.3g twice a day, sometimes three times a day. I've been using the leaf for years now and I can still feel as little as 1g, but prefer to take a little more. It's enough to keep me zingin' through out the days and to have me uber relaxed in the evenings. I've been taking some white vein before going on bike rides lately and the amount of energy & stamina the stuff gives me is un-real.
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: Sham87]
#762128 - 12/17/14 05:51 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I really did want to like it. I'm sure I'll do fine without though.
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: cheezymold]
#762236 - 12/18/14 03:33 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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poor boy said:
i like percs too but their too damn expensive.
I wish I could still take percs, my tolerance is far too high to feel anything off of them.
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cheezymold said:
This was actually my rationale for deciding to stop trying lol. I still feel uneasy from yesterday. Mine is a motion sickness for sure, which I'm already pretty sensitive to. I took about 5.4g with a pastry and was projectile vomiting 2 hours later. The leaf matter came out of my nose because I was holding my mouth when I puked. While I was typing this, I reminded myself of it and threw up again
I think it is telling me to stick with good ol mary jane
It sounds like you dosed too high. I don't get any nausea at all any more probably something to do with my cross tolerance with opiates. But before you right it off completely I would give it another shot and try a smaller dose. It's a pretty neat little plant I wouldn't write it off so quickly.
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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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I agree with SB
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: Ben18]
#762275 - 12/18/14 08:52 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've always put mine into those caps the kratom site has for sale. Kinda sucks tho because if u takw like 5 grams it comes out to like 15-25 capsules depending on what size. I always got a nice opiate like buzz, but it does give me a funny feeling. Almost like a light headed dizzy feeling that comes and goes, and hot flashes I guess. But its never anything serious, never puked. Just burped up that awful taste. I took it once to help ease wd's from oxycodone and i don't remember it helping the wd's which I thought was strange since I thought it was a opiate. But it did give a nice buzz.I'd say its worth the money. I remember I got Bali and another kind but I don't remember which one. But each time was prettt potent. At the time I was taking 100mgs of oxycodone a day, and 7 grams of kratom still gave me that nice happy warm fuzzy feeling.lmao. like a mothers hug
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: Ben18]
#762283 - 12/18/14 10:23 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree with SB
It took me a few times before I got it right. Now I love it
yeah i've said it before and i'll say it again, there is a very fine line between feeling good and feeling nauseous
just gotta find yours
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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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I went through a kilo over the course of the last year(not worth buying in smaller amounts IMO) and tried all kinds of doses. Hot water extract was the least nauseating, but it was a strong narcotic effect and no stimulant at all. Like taking percs. I really don't care for that though. I still have a bottle of diazapam sitting around too lol. I think I just like smoking instead. I tend to be super sensitive to medications to begin with.
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: cheezymold]
#762314 - 12/19/14 07:50 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hot water extraction?
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I'm a retarded, disfigured clown
Dying to be heard through the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
I'm an equal being of no race, or color, a hallucination if you will
Sneaking into the lives of strangers, and letting them fall apart to a new rhythm just to feel better
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy] 1
#762331 - 12/19/14 08:59 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah a hot water extraction sounds like tea?
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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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poor boy
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That's what I was thinking...
Tea calls for too much...
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Lessons learned then gradually surfacing, Letting go, stripping naked to scream
I am not perfect nor do I strive to be, I am alive in this world of face first falls and public breakdowns
I'm a retarded, disfigured clown
Dying to be heard through the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
I'm an equal being of no race, or color, a hallucination if you will
Sneaking into the lives of strangers, and letting them fall apart to a new rhythm just to feel better
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy]
#762339 - 12/19/14 09:22 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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ive been ONLY done tea for last 4 months.
love how it hits so hard and fast 
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: P-O]
#762367 - 12/19/14 12:13 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, its just tea. I let the excess water boil off then dehydrate it, throw in the coffee grinder, cap it. Super strong but I'm sure it destroys a lot of the alkaloids that have a stimulant effect because it feels strait up like percs. I still throw up from this, but the nausea doesn't last nearly as long and lasts me 5-6 hours.
Most certainly I do not deny it's potency. It just doesn't agree with me. Not really a fan of chocking down 15-20 capsules each time either.
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: cheezymold]
#762383 - 12/19/14 03:29 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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cheezymold said:
I went through a kilo over the course of the last year(not worth buying in smaller amounts IMO) and tried all kinds of doses. Hot water extract was the least nauseating, but it was a strong narcotic effect and no stimulant at all. Like taking percs. I really don't care for that though. I still have a bottle of diazapam sitting around too lol. I think I just like smoking instead. I tend to be super sensitive to medications to begin with.
Oh yeah, if you've gone through that much and still haven't hit your spot/don't care for it then it may just not be for you. A kilo is surely enough to do a bit of research and testing to see if you like it or not. And if you still don't care for it then it sounds like thats that.
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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: P-O]
#762384 - 12/19/14 03:40 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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P-O said:
ive been ONLY done tea for last 4 months.
love how it hits so hard and fast
too long of a process for me. not that its REAL long, but I like waking up weighing my cray, thowing in a water bottle with water and then shaking it real quick and drinking. Quick and to the point. And the flavor doesn't bother me any more. The only thing that bothers me is the texture. Because of that I always add a lot more water then I need. I would rather drink more kratom flavor water and have it be very water like, then try to make it so I have to drink less by adding less water and having it be grainy and thick. I could drink a cray drink with some random amount of cray just double the water much easier then I could drink the same amount with half the water. If that makes sense.
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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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poor boy
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I still stand by my gatorade method.
32oz gator minus a swig to lower the level
8gs of kratom
I shake the fuck out of the bottle for a good 30 seconds and then chug. Shake the fuck out of the bottle and chug. I do this until its gone. Takes about 5 min.
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Learning to love life by living through loss and mistakes
Lessons learned then gradually surfacing, Letting go, stripping naked to scream
I am not perfect nor do I strive to be, I am alive in this world of face first falls and public breakdowns
I'm a retarded, disfigured clown
Dying to be heard through the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
I'm an equal being of no race, or color, a hallucination if you will
Sneaking into the lives of strangers, and letting them fall apart to a new rhythm just to feel better
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy]
#762449 - 12/20/14 12:04 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Toss and wash with water... I use medicine bottles to stash my kratom so I just weight the doses out on to a skinny tube and put half in my mouth, water then other half,water and done. Takes about 3 minutes for the entire process.
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poor boy
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: Sham87]
#762462 - 12/20/14 07:35 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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gator is the same thing as toss and wash, but it adds flavor and you dont have to choke down dirt...
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Learning to love life by living through loss and mistakes
Lessons learned then gradually surfacing, Letting go, stripping naked to scream
I am not perfect nor do I strive to be, I am alive in this world of face first falls and public breakdowns
I'm a retarded, disfigured clown
Dying to be heard through the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
I'm an equal being of no race, or color, a hallucination if you will
Sneaking into the lives of strangers, and letting them fall apart to a new rhythm just to feel better
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P-O
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy]
#762471 - 12/20/14 09:56 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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i think im gonna try your method today
does it mask the taste ?
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poor boy
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: P-O]
#762504 - 12/20/14 01:54 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah. Just make sure you mix it up well to break up the clumps. Shake before each chug. You will start to feel it between 15 and 20 min. Always his me hard on the way to school...
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Learning to love life by living through loss and mistakes
Lessons learned then gradually surfacing, Letting go, stripping naked to scream
I am not perfect nor do I strive to be, I am alive in this world of face first falls and public breakdowns
I'm a retarded, disfigured clown
Dying to be heard through the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
I'm an equal being of no race, or color, a hallucination if you will
Sneaking into the lives of strangers, and letting them fall apart to a new rhythm just to feel better
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy]
#762506 - 12/20/14 01:59 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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im trying it in 10 mins. (with v8 juice... it was recommended by a buddy on another kratom board)
If my tea dose is 15-16 grams... how much should i dose do you think?
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P-O
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: P-O]
#762508 - 12/20/14 02:15 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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well i did 9 grams of "super red honed" powder... the supplier says its A+ stuff... ill report back later.
I got a christmas supper in 2 hrs... hopefully im not too outta it.
oh ya v8= not "amazing" at masking the taste.
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poor boy
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: P-O]
#762514 - 12/20/14 02:48 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I like the gator because of the sweetness and its also light. V8 seems like it would be too heavy.
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Learning to love life by living through loss and mistakes
Lessons learned then gradually surfacing, Letting go, stripping naked to scream
I am not perfect nor do I strive to be, I am alive in this world of face first falls and public breakdowns
I'm a retarded, disfigured clown
Dying to be heard through the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
I'm an equal being of no race, or color, a hallucination if you will
Sneaking into the lives of strangers, and letting them fall apart to a new rhythm just to feel better
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P-O
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy]
#762517 - 12/20/14 02:54 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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ya it didnt mix well.
i got a buddy who sells kratom in Nevada, he clains this is the best way to dose. i disagree
im gonna try your tec next time
feelin pretty good already. 
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poor boy
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: P-O]
#762519 - 12/20/14 02:57 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its like T&W... If you have an empty stomach and do it this way, it hits hard, at least for me anyway...
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Learning to love life by living through loss and mistakes
Lessons learned then gradually surfacing, Letting go, stripping naked to scream
I am not perfect nor do I strive to be, I am alive in this world of face first falls and public breakdowns
I'm a retarded, disfigured clown
Dying to be heard through the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
I'm an equal being of no race, or color, a hallucination if you will
Sneaking into the lives of strangers, and letting them fall apart to a new rhythm just to feel better
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy] 1
#762526 - 12/20/14 03:23 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I once did the mistake of taking 12g of kratom at work, I hadnt taken any in a while so my tolerance went down, felt sick as fuck, puked in the employees room and felt like shit all shift long... havent taken kratom since then lol
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Pour un instant, j'ai respiré très fort
Ça m'a permis de visiter mon corps
Des inconnus vivent en roi chez moi
Moi qui avait accepté leurs lois
J'ai perdu mon temps à gagner du temps
J'ai besoin de me trouver une histoire à me conter
Pour instant j'ai oublié mon nom
Harmonium - Pour un instant
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P-O
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: Manitou]
#762527 - 12/20/14 03:27 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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gask quitter never stay high
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cheezymold
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: P-O]
#762548 - 12/20/14 03:58 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have no idea how you guys can function in public on that lol. I would be stumbling all over the place and being too friendly with strangers.
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Manitou
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: cheezymold]
#762551 - 12/20/14 04:41 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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It helped me a lot during my spanish class, made me social as fuck, kept answering teacher's question when I'm usually quiet in the corner, rolling a spliff or something
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Pour un instant, j'ai respiré très fort
Ça m'a permis de visiter mon corps
Des inconnus vivent en roi chez moi
Moi qui avait accepté leurs lois
J'ai perdu mon temps à gagner du temps
J'ai besoin de me trouver une histoire à me conter
Pour instant j'ai oublié mon nom
Harmonium - Pour un instant
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy]
#762555 - 12/20/14 05:35 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just eat a bunch of 00 pills like 12-16
3 to 4 at a time. takes like 90 seconds.
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poor boy
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: Ben18]
#762556 - 12/20/14 05:42 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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thats what i use to do as well, but it takes away from the potency. now your stomach is trying to digest the kratom and the caps. it would be just like eating kratom with food. i also heat it constipates you...
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Learning to love life by living through loss and mistakes
Lessons learned then gradually surfacing, Letting go, stripping naked to scream
I am not perfect nor do I strive to be, I am alive in this world of face first falls and public breakdowns
I'm a retarded, disfigured clown
Dying to be heard through the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
I'm an equal being of no race, or color, a hallucination if you will
Sneaking into the lives of strangers, and letting them fall apart to a new rhythm just to feel better
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still beLIEve
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy]
#762574 - 12/20/14 08:07 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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My only issue with taking kratom with something besides water in a T&W is I tend to forever correlate the beverage I used in the T&W and kratom and I find it hard to enjoy it again, even when not using to take kratom. I have used gatorade before, and it does work very well, but I also did not want to drink gatorade again for a while - which I generally enjoy.
The taste doesnt really bother me, only the consistency does so water works fine for me.
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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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cheezymold
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The taste never really used to bother me, but throwing it up so much fixed that lol. When the leaf matter sticks to things, intense gagging follows. I really do wish I could handle. I've been out of buds for 2 weeks and I have 40g left of white thai. I should just give it to my friends so it doesn't tease me too badly lol.
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still beLIEve
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: cheezymold]
#762590 - 12/20/14 09:33 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Or me! I'm out, you could give it to me! I'd love you long time.
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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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cheezymold
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Lol I texted her that it was hers right after my post. Shipping from here is a pain in the ass too. Get to stand in line for an hour with a hundred Filipinos talking super loud on their cell phones. Bad times man
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openmind
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: cheezymold]
#763949 - 12/31/14 02:35 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
cheezymold said:
I have no idea how you guys can function in public on that lol. I would be stumbling all over the place and being too friendly with strangers.
Not being able to function & stumbling around? Wuh?...you're talking about kratom here  ?
The stuff makes me more "normal" and functional than I am with out it in my system. It's never had me altered in such a way that something like alcohol does, I feel calm & collected and in control whilst having kratom in my system.
-OM
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poor boy
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: openmind]
#763967 - 12/31/14 03:45 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
openmind said:
Quote:
cheezymold said:
I have no idea how you guys can function in public on that lol. I would be stumbling all over the place and being too friendly with strangers.
Not being able to function & stumbling around? Wuh?...you're talking about kratom here ?
The stuff makes me more "normal" and functional than I am with out it in my system. It's never had me altered in such a way that something like alcohol does, I feel calm & collected and in control whilst having kratom in my system.
-OM
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Learning to love life by living through loss and mistakes
Lessons learned then gradually surfacing, Letting go, stripping naked to scream
I am not perfect nor do I strive to be, I am alive in this world of face first falls and public breakdowns
I'm a retarded, disfigured clown
Dying to be heard through the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
I'm an equal being of no race, or color, a hallucination if you will
Sneaking into the lives of strangers, and letting them fall apart to a new rhythm just to feel better
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vinsue
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 Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy]
#764048 - 01/01/15 11:57 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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I feel bad for those who don't like it, can't handle it, or get sick from it.
Kratom is practically a "one-a-day" for me these days,
(That, plus my daily Celebrex, multi vitamin and my mega B complex)
I get no ill effects, great pain relief, super 'chill' factor,
and very little withdrawal after 3 or 4 weeks of steady use,
(certainly nothing like H or booze.)
I will be testing it's potential WD factor more after some extensive use.
I'll get back to Y'all on that one in a few months.
Looking forward to trying P-O's sample, Kratom is absolutely amazing (to me)
Too bad it took me 56 years to discover this stuff...
BTW, 12g breakfast for me this morning,
I'll probably do another 1/2 oz with dinner tonight...
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poor boy
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: vinsue]
#764060 - 01/01/15 02:07 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fuck... I have years of exp and 12g would make me sick as fuck. Gald to hear the pos response though. Keep it up, drag nuts!
(You're old and your nuts sag.)
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Learning to love life by living through loss and mistakes
Lessons learned then gradually surfacing, Letting go, stripping naked to scream
I am not perfect nor do I strive to be, I am alive in this world of face first falls and public breakdowns
I'm a retarded, disfigured clown
Dying to be heard through the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
I'm an equal being of no race, or color, a hallucination if you will
Sneaking into the lives of strangers, and letting them fall apart to a new rhythm just to feel better
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Sham87
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: poor boy] 1
#764069 - 01/01/15 04:32 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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YOU would be thinking of that.
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vinsue
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: Sham87]
#764084 - 01/01/15 06:07 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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He liked the pics.
Bet Ya didn't know I was black. 
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Re: Kratom...never again... [Re: vinsue]
#764086 - 01/01/15 06:12 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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