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Nutrient burn??/ Many plants/many problems???
    #690288 - 10/23/13 02:15 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

1. Are you growing from seed or clones?clones
2. How old are your plants?ruffly 3 months
3. How tall are your plants?2 feet
4. What size containers are they planted in? 3 gal grow bags
5. What is your soil mix? ff
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use and how much you give per watering?  phed water at 6.5 and as they need it I can feel how heavy the bag is .
7. What is the pH of your water?6.5
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio? ff trio pack
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?no
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")400 hps
11. How close are your lights to the plants?14 inches
12. What size is your grow space in square feet? 2x4x8
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?night time 65 day time 73ish
14. What is the pH of the soil? Dont know
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?yes had thrips
16. How much experience do you have growing?about four indoor and 2 outdoor harvests





I think is nut. burn,but I want some TC help


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #690292 - 10/23/13 03:23 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

I'm no tc, but that looks like nute burn.

How long have the plants been in the 3gal bags of ffof?

How often do you feed and are you testing the ppm/ec of your nute solution?

There could be a lil bit more food left in the soil causing them to burn a bit when you feed. Did this problem appear shortly after a feeding?

I'm sure you're aware of this but, even if your plants are getting the appropriate amount of nutrients, they wont be available if the ph is off.

Since you don't know the ph of your soil,I would test the run off ASAP to be certain you're not locking out nutrients.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: Farmer Joe]
    #690300 - 10/23/13 06:25 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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I'm no tc, but that looks like nute burn.

How long have the plants been in the 3gal bags of ffof?

How often do you feed and are you testing the ppm/ec of your nute solution?

There could be a lil bit more food left in the soil causing them to burn a bit when you feed. Did this problem appear shortly after a feeding?

I'm sure you're aware of this but, even if your plants are getting the appropriate amount of nutrients, they wont be available if the ph is off.

Since you don't know the ph of your soil,I would test the run off ASAP to be certain you're not locking out nutrients.






Thanks FJ for your advice.

They have been in them bags since I took the clones and transplanted

Here is the mom and babies They were taken 8/12/13

I try and feed them every other watering?
No I dont test for ppm/ec :smokerage: I would love to but dont have the money for those tools yet!Soon in the future.

I did notice this start happen alittle after I fed. It been a week or so since I took this pic.Also they needed water like 3 day ago And I plan on harvesting at the beginning of November so I Started to flush?? Or I just gave each one like 6 gallons of plan ph ed water Now should I do that again or no, kinda knew to the flushing .  Well with that said my soil is still wet I should I wait till it dries to test the soil ph? And I normally do check my soil run off but I guess I got lazy that day.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #690304 - 10/23/13 07:30 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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I did notice this start happen a little after I fed.




I'd say over feeding is the issue here.

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budgrowerwannabe said: Also they needed water like 3 day ago And I plan on harvesting at the beginning of November so I Started to flush?? Or I just gave each one like 6 gallons of plan ph ed water




Did you actually flush or are you asking me if you should? Sorry you lost me there.

A lot of growers flush differently. I flush my girls 3x in their life cycle. Once in the last week of veg. Once @ week 6 of flower. and then once more a week before the chop.

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budgrowerwannabe said: Well with that said my soil is still wet I should I wait till it dries to test the soil ph? And I normally do check my soil run off but I guess I got lazy that day.




Yes wait until your next watering to test the run off. Since you're only in 3gal bags it shouldn't take long for them to dry out. Especially since they're in ffof....which has great drainage to begin with.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: Farmer Joe]
    #690309 - 10/23/13 08:12 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

I smoked some widow and started typing sorry .I kinda new it was nute. burn but was not sure. So on my last watering I gave them 6 gallons of good water. Im  not to worried about the burn this late in flower but I want to make sure all the nute. are gone for a really good smoke. I dont want to taste that shit. So basic I ran 6 gallons threw to get all the extra crap out of the soil so it does not keep hurting her . Thats my thought process on that maybe Im wrong Now on my next watering should I give her like 9 gal.?Then wait till dry and harvest?


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #690322 - 10/23/13 10:13 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

nah I'd let them recover from the flush. water normally for one or two waterings and then hit them again. Are you sure those plants are gonna be ready by the begining of november? they still look like they've got a ways to go yet.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: Farmer Joe]
    #690366 - 10/24/13 04:51 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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nah I'd let them recover from the flush. water normally for one or two waterings and then hit them again. Are you sure those plants are gonna be ready by the begining of november? they still look like they've got a ways to go yet.





Funny you say that I was looking at them I think they might go passed November 1 theres only like one or too amber trichs??So I dont know?Ill try and get a fresh pic of them so you can see.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #690529 - 10/25/13 03:52 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Your problem is nute lockout.  You can feed your plant as little or as much as you'd like, but if the PH isn't correct your plant's roots won't be able to uptake the available nutrients and that'll cause the roots to burn resulting in nutrient lockout.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: hamloaf]
    #690532 - 10/25/13 05:37 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

thanks for the reply. I flushed them with 6 gal a week or so ago so now what?


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #690535 - 10/25/13 06:23 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Get a PH tester, mix your nutrient solution and test it's PH.  Adjust PH as needed and start feeding your plants again. 

I'd come back and hit them with just a quarter strength nutrient solution at first though.  If (when) they take that up with no problem and judging by how little of a problem they have taking up the quarter strength nutrient solution is how you can determine whether or to gradually and or immediately begin return to your normal feeding regimen.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: hamloaf]
    #690561 - 10/25/13 10:33 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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Get a PH tester, mix your nutrient solution and test it's PH.  Adjust PH as needed and start feeding your plants again. 

I'd come back and hit them with just a quarter strength nutrient solution at first though.  If (when) they take that up with no problem and judging by how little of a problem they have taking up the quarter strength nutrient solution is how you can determine whether or to gradually and or immediately begin return to your normal feeding regimen.





Where are you getting this?  He knows what the pH is.  It's stated in the first post, and is right where it should be.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #690564 - 10/25/13 10:46 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

From a cloud of smoke appearently, haha.  I was reading in one of these threads that somebody said they didn't know what their ph was and was having problems, that's how.  Upon rereading the original post must have gotten this thread mixed with another one.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: hamloaf]
    #690791 - 10/27/13 08:52 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)



here they are now whats u guys think?


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #690803 - 10/27/13 10:49 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

I don't think those plants are close to being harvested either.  "Flushing" is done by running 3 times the amount of plain ph'ed water (or you can use a clearing agent in the water) through each gallon of soil used.  Plants being flushed for harvest should be flushed for 10-14 days before harvesting for a better finished product.

They look worse.  They do not appear as if they have any sort of deficiency though.  Looks like classic nute burn. I'd flush those suckers out for a few days to wash away the excess nutrients, tear away those fan leaves that are damaged and check the ph of the soil.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: hamloaf]
    #690805 - 10/27/13 12:39 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

When i noticed it i flushed it with 6 gallon of water there in like 2 gal of dirt. in 3 gal bags but not full all the way

Im going to ph the run off of my next water en now should i flush that shit again or no ??


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #690808 - 10/27/13 02:17 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Have they received any nutrients since?  I wouldn't flush again. 

How far into flowering are they?


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #690828 - 10/27/13 07:41 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

I had the same thing going on some of my plants during this grow. I attributed it to ph issues and letting the EC get too high.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #690898 - 10/28/13 03:29 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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Have they received any nutrients since?  I wouldn't flush again. 

How far into flowering are they?





No more nut yet havent done anything since i gave them all that water.

Im not sure low long hawk they be flowering .  All the tricks are cloudy and its a 8 to 9 week strain.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #690902 - 10/28/13 04:15 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Just let her go then.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #690905 - 10/28/13 04:46 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Well I still have to water it a couple more times im betting before choppen . Should I just give it plan water? thats what ill do i guess Can I  give it sweet or no , and should I?


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #690906 - 10/28/13 05:09 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah just water.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #690929 - 10/28/13 11:54 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Thats what I was thinking. Thanks man:jackiechanofapproval:


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #691673 - 11/04/13 04:35 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Well  here is another plant that needs some help Had some yellow leafs on the bottom. so I gave her some food??





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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #691685 - 11/04/13 06:20 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Whenever you have new issues, with new problems, start a new thread.  And fill out the questionnaire.


What kind of lighting are you using?


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    #691715 - 11/04/13 01:01 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Ok i will make a new thread i was just going to make this  thread my problem thread and put up all the things i experienced.

but if thats not aloud then ill make a new thread.

I put it under a 400 hps a week ago to start flowering


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #691836 - 11/05/13 05:07 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

It's fine to leave it in this thread, as long as you fill the questionnaire out each time you have a new problem.


What kind of light was it under before that?


Just because it appears as nitrogen deficiency, doesn't mean that lack of nitrogen is the cause.  It can be present, but unavailable due to pH, or already being over fed.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #692003 - 11/05/13 10:52 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

1. Are you growing from seed or clones?seed
2. How old are your plants?ruffly 3 months
3. How tall are your plants? foot bent over but if i stood it up maybe 3 feet?
4. What size containers are they planted in? 3 gal grow bags
5. What is your soil mix? ff
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use and how much you give per watering?  phed water at 6.5 and as they need it I can feel how heavy the bag is .
7. What is the pH of your water?6.5
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio? ff trio pack
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?no
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")400 hps/mh
11. How close are your lights to the plants? 12/36 inch roughly
12. What size is your grow space in square feet? 2x4x8
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?night time 65 day time 73ish
14. What is the pH of the soil? Dont know
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?yes had thrips/mites/black flys
16. How much experience do you have growing?about four indoor and 2 outdoor harvests




here she is 10/5/13
took like 15 clones since then (really hard to clone) have like 4 or 5 that made it. so now im going to make one of them moms

IT was under mh 400 watt mh .  I will do this every time and keep one thread as my fuck up .


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #692005 - 11/05/13 11:06 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Am I seeing a lot of single bladed leaves? 


How much of the nutrient have you been giving me, and how often


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    #692008 - 11/05/13 11:20 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Really i dont think i gave it  but one feeding . of grow big
About the leafs?? might because of stress it was a seed i started like 3- 4 months ago. for my out door well it got big and a deer dam ner ate the hole thing well by time it got big again the outdoor was over so i put it in veg under the mh
so it had a ruff life so far so i made her a mom took clones now i put her in flower!


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #692068 - 11/06/13 02:07 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

You put it back in veg lighting and the plant reverted. The leaf count went from 7 to 5 to 3 to 1 and it will start to go back up again till it is normal.


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    #692110 - 11/06/13 05:08 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Ok thanks It was shooting out hairs like preflowers then i brought it in and started to clone it .Its a bag of seed that i know is female so I kept it! I did give it some food a couple days ago? hope it gets better.

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    #692341 - 11/07/13 05:40 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Thanks Mag.  How u been ? Good to see ya




Right back at ya.

Been busy outdoor and indoor coming in at the same time. Been going up and down the state a lot.



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    #692351 - 11/07/13 06:11 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)



Took a couple more for ya to see if she is getten better


Yea your outdoor is still going shit it already snowed here lol :stayfunky:



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    #692355 - 11/07/13 06:16 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Fuck, wish we had snow


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    #692359 - 11/07/13 06:28 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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    #692363 - 11/07/13 06:48 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Well here it's just rain until you get into the mountains.  I'd take the snow any day


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    #693004 - 11/11/13 02:36 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Thought i would update my little thread .



Here is that girl now after i gave it Tiger bloom/earth juice/sweet ph was 6.4. That was on
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Now today 11/10/13 updaten and watering plan water now!!! Lookin great Mayby?


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #693109 - 11/11/13 05:31 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

The amount of yellow leaves cause me alarm.  The new growth looks good though.  Seeing as how that plant is 3 feet tall and has just been recently induced to flower in a 3 gallon growing container concerns me a little bit.  That plant is going to get a at least a few feet taller through out her budding cycle.  As a general rule of thumb I like to give my plants 1 gallon of growing medium for every foot of above of plant growth.  I'd consider transplanting that lady into a 5 gallon container (at least) for the rest of her flowering stage.


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    #694178 - 11/18/13 02:22 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Thought i would update my little thread .



Here is that girl now after i gave it Tiger bloom/earth juice/sweet ph was 6.4. That was on
11/2/13


Now today 11/10/13 updaten and watering plan water now!!! Lookin great Mayby?





Well i gave this plant one watering with plan water, and then let dry and watered with fert. last nite.
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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #694179 - 11/18/13 02:49 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Are you growing from seed or clones? Clone
2. How old are your plants?ruffly 1 month
3. How tall are your plants? 1 foot
4. What size containers are they planted in? 3 gal grow bags
5. What is your soil mix? ff
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use and how much you give per watering?  phed water at 6.5 and as they need it I can feel how heavy the bag is .
7. What is the pH of your water?6.5
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio? ff trio pack
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?no
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")400 hps/mh
11. How close are your lights to the plants? 12/36 inch roughly
12. What size is your grow space in square feet? 2x4x8
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?night time 65 day time 73ish
14. What is the pH of the soil? Dont know
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?yes had thrips/mites/black flys
16. How much experience do you have growing?about four indoor and 2 outdoor harvests







Whats going on here?? I feed them last night ?


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #694188 - 11/18/13 03:53 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

How long have the stems and petioles been purple?

It looks like you're dealing with a phosphorus deficiency.

Your plants could be underfed or you could possibly be locking out Phosphorus with an unstable ph. Have you tested your runoff yet?


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: Farmer Joe]
    #694231 - 11/18/13 05:35 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Yea, that's definitely a phosphorus ("P") deficiency.  He said he noticed a few pests.  I wonder what he used to get rid of them (if he used anything at all)? 

He really does need to test his run off water or test his soil for PH.  Phosphorus will lock out quicker than shit if the soil is too acidic or alkaline.  An excess of iron and zinc will lock phosphorus out also, or yea, he isn't feeding frequently enough.  He also doesn't mention anything about where he sources his water. 

budgrowerwannabe, phosphorus deficiencies are easy to treat.  Just lower the PH of your soil and water to about 5.5-6 and fertigate your plants with a complete and balanced fertilizer comprised or organic materials, or an organic or inorganic hydroponic fertilizer that contains phosphorus.  Lowering your PH will ensure that phosphorus is now available to the plants. 

If the problem is the PH being wrong in the soil it's going to be hydrated and dolomite lime tea time.  The hydrated lime will go to work right away buffering the PH of the soil and is flushed out quickly.  The dolomite lime will act as a PH buffer in the soil for a few weeks or so.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: Farmer Joe]
    #694237 - 11/18/13 06:01 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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How long have the stems and petioles been purple?

It looks like you're dealing with a phosphorus deficiency.

Your plants could be underfed or you could possibly be locking out Phosphorus with an unstable ph. Have you tested your runoff yet?





They have been  slowly turning this way since i put them in flower on 11/4/13.
Well i never feed them since i took the clones,I watered them just before i put them in the tent took thet long for them to dry out for me to feed them.

No I didnt test the run off fuck .
But I always have my ph in the money spot.    im  hopen its just they need fed like the one above it??


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: hamloaf]
    #694240 - 11/18/13 06:11 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Yea, that's definitely a phosphorus ("P") deficiency.  He said he noticed a few pests.  I wonder what he used to get rid of them (if he used anything at all)? 

He really does need to test his run off water or test his soil for PH.  Phosphorus will lock out quicker than shit if the soil is too acidic or alkaline.  An excess of iron and zinc will lock phosphorus out also, or yea, he isn't feeding frequently enough.  He also doesn't mention anything about where he sources his water. 

budgrowerwannabe, phosphorus deficiencies are easy to treat.  Just lower the PH of your soil and water to about 5.5-6 and fertigate your plants with a complete and balanced fertilizer comprised or organic materials, or an organic or inorganic hydroponic fertilizer that contains phosphorus.  Lowering your PH will ensure that phosphorus is now available to the plants. 

If the problem is the PH being wrong in the soil it's going to be hydrated and dolomite lime tea time.  The hydrated lime will go to work right away buffering the PH of the soil and is flushed out quickly.  The dolomite lime will act as a PH buffer in the soil for a few weeks or so.





I used a ladybug fogger neem oil,and soapy water on my pest prob. there gone now!!

My water is from the city?? good to drink?So i fill up my res. 55 gallon. let it sit with a lid.
Then I take buckets out of that and fill my next res 25 gallon were there is a air stone and it sits there till I ready to water. if i just ph my 25v gal res. its always at 7.0 after sitting awhile. dont know the ppm workin on that! So I  correct the ph  to 6.5 and water .thats were my water comes from.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #694241 - 11/18/13 06:12 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Test your run off water.  Testing the run off water will tell you if your soil's PH is correct thus concluding whether or not you can simply begin feeding again.  If your soil's PH is too acidic or alkaline, you're going to have some work to do.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: hamloaf]
    #694242 - 11/18/13 06:13 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

well going to have to wait till it drys out now


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    #694390 - 11/19/13 03:14 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah he may be having phosphorus deficiencies but I'm sure the 65F temps are helping show a little purple on the stems. Plus the plants are stressed from the fact that he has had a insect wild life park in there.

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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: Magash]
    #694407 - 11/19/13 04:49 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

:smokerage: bugs they all must die lolo

Wonder witch ones I didnt get yet?













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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: Magash]
    #694443 - 11/19/13 07:59 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah he may be having phosphorus deficiencies but I'm sure the 65F temps are helping show a little purple on the stems. Plus the plants are stressed from the fact that he has had a insect wild life park in there.

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65 degrees isn't really cold enough to cause purpling in the stems like that.  Between 45-55 degrees ferinheight is the temperature fall coloring occurs at.  Also, the blueish green tinge on those leaves is yet another symptom of a phosphorus defeciency.  The insects MAY have caused a little stress to the plants.  Stress to plants due to pests sure isn't evidenced by the pictures provided though.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: hamloaf]
    #694446 - 11/19/13 11:01 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

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Yeah he may be having phosphorus deficiencies but I'm sure the 65F temps are helping show a little purple on the stems. Plus the plants are stressed from the fact that he has had a insect wild life park in there.

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65 degrees isn't really cold enough to cause purpling in the stems like that.  Between 45-55 degrees ferinheight is the temperature fall coloring occurs at.  Also, the blueish green tinge on those leaves is yet another symptom of a phosphorus defeciency.  The insects MAY have caused a little stress to the plants.  Stress to plants due to pests sure isn't evidenced by the pictures provided though.


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I can tell ya right off the bat that is wrong. I've had lavender plants turn purple in the 60s many times. GDP also now that I think about it.

30 years under the lights. I really need to find something else to do I'm getting to old to keep growing for a living. :facepalm:


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: Magash]
    #694453 - 11/19/13 04:37 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

30 years "under the lights"?  Jesus Christ, you're an old fucker aren't you.  30 years is a few years under how long I'v even been alive.  :lol:

Yea, altogether I've been under the lights for approximately 6-7 years.  I'm recently back under the lights after about a 4-5 year hiatus. 

A little purpling of the main veins and leaf stems coupled with normal leaf coloring in a garden kept at 65F and below would cause me to accept that the major cause of the purpling veins and stems was fall coloring.  I just don't know, man.  From here those leaves look a little small in proportion to the size of that plant, as well as I think I'm seeing that blueish kinda tinge going down on those fan leaves which are two more characteristic of a phosphorous deficiency.  If that were my plant I would investigate the PH of the soil to be sure there's nothing else going on, and if the PH of the soil was correct, treat the plant as if it were deficient in phosphorus.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: hamloaf]
    #694454 - 11/19/13 05:01 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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30 years "under the lights"?  Jesus Christ, you're an old fucker aren't you.  30 years is a few years under how long I'v even been alive.




Punk ass kids. Yup I'm a old fucker I guess in your guys world. (late 40s) When I got under the lights they were just starting to use MH and HPS lights and air cooling wasn't even considered for years yet. Most were still using 4 foot floro tubes. No T5 or cfl just the normal tubes.

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From here those leaves look a little small in proportion to the size of that plant, as well as I think I'm seeing that blueish kinda tinge going down on those fan leaves which are two more characteristic of a phosphorous deficiency.  If that were my plant I would investigate the PH of the soil to be sure there's nothing else going on, and if the PH of the soil was correct, treat the plant as if it were deficient in phosphorus.




Yeah I think so too but (and I'm only going by what I see) those plants are on cement which leads me to believe they are in a garage or something like that and I'm gonna guess that on the Eastern side of this country where the temps are getting into the 20s at night maybe it may be getting lower then the mid 60s at night but I agree I think you'd see a little purple on the leaves also if it was the cold.




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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: Magash]
    #694474 - 11/19/13 06:55 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Well Mag they are in my basement!! And this room is a new set up so I was think in the cold air i have coming into the tent is to cold for the plants. there were aa couple nights were it got really cold so part of it might be the coo,l air.



The other part is I took the clones put them in soil vegged for a month didnt give it any food now like after putten it in there tent I watched it turn slowly yellow. till it dried out and then i fed it?? How we will see what happens:wellidunno:




Mag your not that old , olds like 84 or sum shit.
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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #695759 - 11/27/13 11:49 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

1. Are you growing from seed or clones?Seed
2. How old are your plants?ruffly month
3. How tall are your plants?3 inch
4. What size containers are they planted in? 1 gal bags
5. What is your soil mix? ff
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use and how much you give per watering?  phed water at 6.5 and as they need it I can feel how heavy the bag is .
7. What is the pH of your water?6.5
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio? ff trio pack
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?no
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
T12s
11. How close are your lights to the plants?1-2 inch
12. What size is your grow space in square feet? 2x4x8
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?night time 65 day time 73ish
14. What is the pH of the soil? Dont know
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?yes had thrips
16. How much experience do you have growing?about four indoor and 2 outdoor harvests




Now I started 10 autos 9 poped. 8 look really good and there is this one?? I didnt nothing differet to this one .They all have been taken care of the same .Nothing diff. dont know whats up never seen this ?


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #695761 - 11/27/13 11:55 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Whoa that is funky looking. I haven't seen that one before. Only the one plant maybe it's a genetic thing with it. Kind of like DJ's Blueberry does the funky growth like that on some plants but it's a genetic thing. A retard plant.

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    #695762 - 11/27/13 12:11 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

lol funky Its till alive I think? Think i should just get rid of it? Since its a auto?


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #696026 - 11/29/13 08:59 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I wouldn't keep that plant around.  Especially if I had more plants from the same seed stock going on.


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Re:?? ??????? [Re: hamloaf]
    #706718 - 01/12/14 11:25 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

1. Are you growing from seed or clones?clone
2. How old are your plants?ruffly month
3. How tall are your plants?2 foot
4. What size containers are they planted in? 2 gal bag
5. What is your soil mix? ff
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use and how much you give per watering?  phed water at 6.5 and as they need it I can feel how heavy the bag is .
7. What is the pH of your water?6.5
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio? ff trio pack
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?no
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
mh 400
11. How close are your lights to the plants? 18 inch
12. What size is your grow space in square feet? 4 foot by 4 foot
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?night time 65 day time 73ish
14. What is the pH of the soil? Dont know
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space? no not on this plant
16. How much experience do you have growing?about four indoor and 2 outdoor harvests





Well what I was wondering Y are the leafs tacoing? on top?

I have been lookin shit that looked like mine be no luck I though one of my grow buds might already know ?

Shes a white widow mum.

Thanks or the help.











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    #706719 - 01/12/14 11:51 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

The stocks and branches are purple as hell and the leaf tips are starting to straight burn.  Your soil's too hot.


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    #706724 - 01/13/14 12:36 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I thought you stopped growing dude.


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    #706726 - 01/13/14 12:43 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

You sure about that??

The Person that gave it to me said he never gave it any food?? And its in ff?


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    #706730 - 01/13/14 12:56 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I thought you stopped growing dude.





I did . I am just getting a mom so I can have clones for the summer.

I need alot  of clones so I chop enough smoke to last me all year.


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    #706733 - 01/13/14 01:04 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Pretty sure, man.  How trusted of a fellow are we talking here? 

Correct me of I'm wrong.  I'm just going by what I see in the picture.  The younger leaves appear as if they are burning at the tips.  That's a beginning sign of toxic salt build up.  Another is the "tacoing" leaves.  All that purpling of the main stalk and stems are a calmag lockout.  I'd treat her as if she is suffering from toxic salt build ups and leech her - leech her good.


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    #706735 - 01/13/14 01:20 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Well my bud may tell me one thing, as not look like he fucked up this plant. But I think he gave it way to much food.

Now as u said the purple stem might be from the cold I know it was getting really cold in his room.

But when he gave me the plant I saw the tips were yellow. like nut burn? So don't really know what is going on .

On the next water I will just flush with good water.

I never had this before?


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    #706736 - 01/13/14 01:32 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Purple stems do not automatically mean cal/mag. I've grown strains that have purple stems from almost day one.  And they stayed that way well into veg.  It can definitely be genetic.


That being said.  It does look like your plant needs to be flushed.


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    #706738 - 01/13/14 01:47 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Well its getting dry now mabe in a day or two It will be ready for water.

So im Going to give it like 8 gal of water . Anything special i should do to it Hawk?


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    #706739 - 01/13/14 01:52 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Just flush dude.


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    #706741 - 01/13/14 02:03 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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    #706891 - 01/14/14 12:22 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Purple stems do not automatically mean cal/mag. I've grown strains that have purple stems from almost day one.  And they stayed that way well into veg.  It can definitely be genetic.


That being said.  It does look like your plant needs to be flushed.



Do you remember what the names of these strains you grew out that were all purple were called?

That being said - obviously purple stems don't automatically mean cal-mag toxicity or deficiency, as well as I'm sure you've grown these super rare crazy strains where everything including the stems were purple due to genetics, but we are talking about White Widow here.

When the purple-ing of the stems and main stalks is dark, all covering, and run up the veins of the leaf pedals plus "tacoing" leaves - it's a cal-mag issue.  When the purple-ing is caused by a phosphorus deficiency the purple-ing is a red-ish purple, and doesn't completely cover the stems and main stalk(s).  Phosphorus deficiencies come coupled with a blueish tinge to the leave color, as well as disproportionately small leaves in ratio to the size of the plant.


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I'd treat her as if she is suffering from toxic salt build ups and leech her - leech her good.




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That being said.  It does look like your plant needs to be flushed.




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Just flush dude.



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    #706897 - 01/14/14 01:06 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

It was a blackberry kush.


I've seen more than one strain do it.  And I never said the entire plant was purple, I said the stems were.  And that stayed for a very long time.  If you read my post as whole instead of picking the part where I make sure people reading it don't see purple stems and automatically think cal/mag deficiency, you would realize that.


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    #707137 - 01/14/14 05:57 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Well just gave it like 9 gal of plan water.

How long till I can start it back to feedin normal?


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    #707143 - 01/14/14 06:10 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Wait until the next time it needs watering, then give it a small amount.


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    #707144 - 01/14/14 06:14 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks man. Ill keep u updated.


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    #707186 - 01/14/14 02:35 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Drop the attitude man.



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    #707245 - 01/14/14 10:07 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Uh, you are the one starting this dude.  Just relax and don't be on the offensive.  I'm here to make sure that people are getting correct information.  When I see misinformation I have to correct it.  You don't have to be offended by it.


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    #707431 - 01/15/14 05:43 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

sup bud grower.

Technaflora's magical is a good product to add to your feeding regimen. It certainly can't hurt.  I use it every feeding and watering through veg and flower.  :thumbup:

You add some magical and a tea with a lil nitrogen w/ every feed and water all through flower and your girls will be VERY happy.  :vaped:

ditch the ffof. I used to love the stuff, but their batches are very inconsistent and loaded with fillers.


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    #707442 - 01/15/14 06:01 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Sup FJ


What should I use instead of ff ??:mygoditsfullofstars:


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    #707477 - 01/15/14 03:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

If you like using soils that have a little heat to them I'd recommend Roots Organic 707. They've really improved their line up. 707 is the #1 a selling amended soil at the shop I work at. We sell 1.5 to 2 pallets of ro 707  a week and maybe 2-3 bags of ffof a week.

I use sunshine advanced #4. Nothing but mycorrhizae in it.  I used to mix ffof w/ sunshine but I'd always run into deficiencies.  :shrug:


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    #707489 - 01/15/14 07:01 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I thought you stopped growing dude.





I did . I am just getting a mom so I can have clones for the summer.

I need alot  of clones so I chop enough smoke to last me all year.





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    #707506 - 01/15/14 07:44 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I use sunshine advanced #4. Nothing but mycorrhizae in it.  I used to mix ffof w/ sunshine but I'd always run into deficiencies.  :shrug:



That's what I did along with some WC and FF Fruit and flower. Burnt my plants up for the first month and a half. I have a half of a bale of Sunshine left. Whats the feeding schedule like with that stuff? OF you don't have to feed for the first month to 6 weeks.


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    #707526 - 01/15/14 08:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

You have to feed from the start with sunshine.

I feed twice a week in veg. 2 feedings a week in flower as well, but the second weekly feeding is only a tea w/ molasses, magical and a silica supp.


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    #707539 - 01/15/14 09:50 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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You have to feed from the start with sunshine.

I feed twice a week in veg. 2 feedings a week in flower as well, but the second weekly feeding is only a tea w/ molasses, magical and a silica supp.



Cool, thanks for the tip man. I may do a few clones in the sunshine mix to get a feel for the feeding needs and use up what I have left. Sunshine is a lot cheaper than OF here, so its a reason to look into it.lol.

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    #707557 - 01/15/14 11:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I thought you stopped growing dude.





I did . I am just getting a mom so I can have clones for the summer.

I need alot  of clones so I chop enough smoke to last me all year.





:hi5: Nice!

hope everything is going well bud :thumbup:






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    #710014 - 01/27/14 10:54 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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1. Are you growing from seed or clones?clone
2. How old are your plants?ruffly month
3. How tall are your plants?2 foot
4. What size containers are they planted in? 2 gal bag
5. What is your soil mix? ff
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use and how much you give per watering?  phed water at 6.5 and as they need it I can feel how heavy the bag is .
7. What is the pH of your water?6.5
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio? ff trio pack
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?no
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
mh 400
11. How close are your lights to the plants? 18 inch
12. What size is your grow space in square feet? 4 foot by 4 foot
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?night time 65 day time 73ish
14. What is the pH of the soil? Dont know
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space? no not on this plant
16. How much experience do you have growing?about four indoor and 2 outdoor harvests





Well what I was wondering Y are the leafs tacoing? on top?

I have been lookin shit that looked like mine be no luck I though one of my grow buds might already know ?

Shes a white widow mum.

Thanks or the help.











Sorry or the shitty pics to:wellidunno:












1/27/14
Well I flushed this plant. Its almost ready for another watering. Should I feed it or just give it plan water again??



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    #710017 - 01/27/14 12:19 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Plain water.


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    #710019 - 01/27/14 12:37 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Ok It still can go a couple more days before I need to water. I will give it plain 6.5 ph water.

Then Ill let you know whats happen .
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budgrowerwannabe said:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones?clone
2. How old are your plants?ruffly month
3. How tall are your plants?2 foot
4. What size containers are they planted in? 2 gal bag
5. What is your soil mix? ff
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use and how much you give per watering?  phed water at 6.5 and as they need it I can feel how heavy the bag is .
7. What is the pH of your water?6.5
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio? ff trio pack
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?no
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
mh 400
11. How close are your lights to the plants? 18 inch
12. What size is your grow space in square feet? 4 foot by 4 foot
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?night time 65 day time 73ish
14. What is the pH of the soil? Dont know
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space? no not on this plant
16. How much experience do you have growing?about four indoor and 2 outdoor harvests





Well what I was wondering Y are the leafs tacoing? on top?

I have been lookin shit that looked like mine be no luck I though one of my grow buds might already know ?

Shes a white widow mum.

Thanks or the help.











Sorry or the shitty pics to:wellidunno:












1/27/14
Well I flushed this plant. Its almost ready for another watering. Should I feed it or just give it plan water again??








Well I watered plain water last time. Its getting ready to be watered again. I had to bend the top over It was to tall for my light. I think its looking a Little greener but what do i know?





Question?? Will That purple stem go away?? It looks like it might??  Some of it is lookin green again.


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    #715270 - 02/15/14 05:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Dam  were is everyone ?  Not even a response from Hawk?


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    #715299 - 02/15/14 11:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What I would do....

Pick up a calmag supplement. The pics you posted on 1/27 all show calcium deficiencies.

ditch the grow bags. they're a pita. Transplant into a 5gal plastic pot and cut the plant back a bit. at least remove the tallest branch that you had to bend. You need to reshape this plant so that it pays you for your time and effort.

get some foam board insulation underneath that panda film on your floor. The air around your plants may be the right temps but I'm willing to bet your rootzone is waaaaay too fucking cold. Which is also why your the stems of your plant are purple.

Personally I don't care too much for ffof. I would transplant into sunshine #4 and use a mycorrhizal supp with your transplant. I use this product this product when I transplant.

You may want to consider using a more complete nutrient line with better additives like gen hydro, gen organics, roots organics, advanced nutrients, Humboldt nutrients or botanicares line.

It's gonna cost you a little more to run one of those lines, but you'll be far less likely to be running into these issues.

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    #721459 - 03/15/14 06:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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What I would do....

Pick up a calmag supplement. The pics you posted on 1/27 all show calcium deficiencies.

ditch the grow bags. they're a pita. Transplant into a 5gal plastic pot and cut the plant back a bit. at least remove the tallest branch that you had to bend. You need to reshape this plant so that it pays you for your time and effort.

get some foam board insulation underneath that panda film on your floor. The air around your plants may be the right temps but I'm willing to bet your rootzone is waaaaay too fucking cold. Which is also why your the stems of your plant are purple.

Personally I don't care too much for ffof. I would transplant into sunshine #4 and use a mycorrhizal supp with your transplant. I use this product this product when I transplant.

You may want to consider using a more complete nutrient line with better additives like gen hydro, gen organics, roots organics, advanced nutrients, Humboldt nutrients or botanicares line.

It's gonna cost you a little more to run one of those lines, but you'll be far less likely to be running into these issues.

:2cents:





Sup Fj

Thanks for the reply . Sorry it took so long for me to get back to ya. Just been busy you know.
I will be postin pics soon as the ol lady gets done downloading them.

I transplanted into 5 gal, cut some dead shit off but waiting to cut more so I can try and clone and not waste the cuttings.










Now here is some other shit going down?? Pics in a few!


Are you growing from seed or clones?clone
2. How old are your plants?ruffly month
3. How tall are your plants?1 foot
4. What size containers are they planted in? 2 gal bag
5. What is your soil mix? ff
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use and how much you give per watering?  phed water at 6.5 and as they need it I can feel how heavy the bag is .
7. What is the pH of your water?6.5
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio? ff trio pack
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?no
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
t12
11. How close are your lights to the plants? 1 inch
12. What size is your grow space in square feet? 4 foot by 4 foot
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?night time 65 day time 73ish
14. What is the pH of the soil? Dont know
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space? no not on this plant
16. How much experience do you have growing?about four indoor and 2 outdoor harvests




All I did was water her plan water but I might have been high as fuck and didn't ph cant remember??
I will get you guys some pics up soon.


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    #721706 - 03/17/14 04:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I assume you're on well water right?

and are you still not testing your ppms?


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    #721769 - 03/17/14 04:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Sup FJ ,  No I use tap water. I let it sit in a 55 gallon barrel then I move it to my watering res. were I ph and feed all my girls from.


In the pic you can see that there are two clones. One all fucked up and one really heathy. I did the same shit to both??

about the ppm pen I went to the hydro store and the guy told me that if im in soil I don't really need it . Well I Since going to the shop I became friends with this guy. He  has helped out a lot like you guys do. So I had it He talked me out of it. So I must not need it for soil because he would have made me get one. Do you think that my ppm is to high ?? I have city water I also had aater report done looked ok to me but wtf do I know.

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    #721786 - 03/17/14 07:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That's interesting the store owner steered you away form a ppm pen.I'm surprised he did. I would strongly recommend getting one.

are both of the clones in the pics you posted the same strain?


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    #721814 - 03/17/14 10:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I know right .I was surprised that he told me that too! You think he want to sell it just to make money.Hes cool as fuck.
He has been takin me under his wing so to speak I guess?I get all free samples of all the new goodies to try out.
Plus I smoked some of the stuff he grew . Wow I was in  commoa LOL

As for the clones there, yea there the same strain WW from seedsman

This is the same strain/clone I have been growin for two years now. Just keep cloning and keeping my strain.

I think I was fucked up and gave it the wrong ph water? will this do that??

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    #721816 - 03/17/14 10:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I suppose it's possible if you fucked up a few times in a row with your ph, but you only did it once if at all right?

It looks like nute burn to me anyway.


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    #721835 - 03/18/14 12:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I was thinking the same thing. The last water was on 3/8/4 .

It is still soaking wet still . I was thinking of flushing but didn't ? Maybe  let it ride out and see what happens.

Yea if I get some extra money I might just get a ppm pen just in case I need to know and if I ever go hydro.

I should have got it but you know wise old head told me different. He did say you need IT for hydro something about the soil will buff it or some shit lol we were smoking in the back as we talked Don't you love the grow shops.

Dude I was lookin at your grow log Wow. I coulnt pay your  bills lol I will be watch to see how all that power produces!!


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    #721849 - 03/18/14 02:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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we were smoking in the back as we talked Don't you love the grow shops.





I wouldn't worry about flushing. Just keep an eye on the new growth. I think it'll be fine.

blue lab makes a great ppm pen. Imo they make one of the best pens on the market.  I own a blue lab ph and ppm pen. I still like my tri meter better, but hand held pens are soooo much easier to carry from one room to the next. Plus you don't have to worry about rfi interference with them as opposed to meters with exposed probes :thumbup:


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lol we were smoking in the back as we talked Don't you love the grow shops.




oh i do. I work at a grow shop 2 days a week. Nearly every custy tries to smoke one w/ me. :lol:


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    #730191 - 05/08/14 01:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yo sup growery!!:idhitit:


Been a min. Anyway here is a strain I been growing for a while now.  its great weed or I would have got rid of it. But this color has happened on ever plant so far ??:wellidunno:

Don't know if its something Im doing or what?





Fj Man you should see that WW That I fixed! She is going to be BIG lol Im going to put her outside.


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    #730922 - 05/10/14 11:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Dam:mygoditsfullofstars:



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    #731039 - 05/11/14 07:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Maybe your right freaking meth heads lol

DeAD You want to see that ww i fixed ? No one else is?






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    #758107 - 11/20/14 04:27 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

1. Are you growing from seed or clones?clones
2. How old are your plants?
3. How tall are your plants?2 feet
4. What size containers are they planted in? 5 gal bucket
5. What is your soil mix? promix
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use and how much you give per watering?  water when they need it by feel. City water phed to 6.5
7. What is the pH of your water?6.5
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio? maxigrow/bloom
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?no
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")800 hps
11. How close are your lights to the plants?14 inches
12. What size is your grow space in square feet? 6 foot by 6foot sq
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?night time 65 day time 73ish
14. What is the pH of the soil? Dont know
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?not use avid lol
16. How much experience do you have growing? been growen






Well I had to bring back the sick thread :beatingtodeath:

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    #758243 - 11/21/14 05:09 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

The first thing I would start with man is to check on your runoff and see what the PH is on that. If your at 6.5 going in just check the runoff and make a judgement about halfway between on what the soil PH is. Unless you have a meter, then WTF, check it.lol.

If you get your PH stable then you should be able to determine what nutrient there is a lack or abundance of.

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    #758279 - 11/21/14 05:49 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

well I did check the run off before like a week ago on another plant same strain.Same everything food everything so I thought the ph of the soil would be the same? What do i know !


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    #760276 - 12/04/14 03:28 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Bump :smokerage:


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    #760299 - 12/04/14 05:39 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

well


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    #760308 - 12/04/14 07:16 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

What's your question?


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1. Are you growing from seed or clones?clones
2. How old are your plants?
3. How tall are your plants?2 feet
4. What size containers are they planted in? 5 gal bucket
5. What is your soil mix? promix
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use and how much you give per watering?  water when they need it by feel. City water phed to 6.5
7. What is the pH of your water?6.5
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio? maxigrow/bloom
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?no
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")800 hps
11. How close are your lights to the plants?14 inches
12. What size is your grow space in square feet? 6 foot by 6foot sq
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?night time 65 day time 73ish
14. What is the pH of the soil? Dont know
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?not use avid lol
16. How much experience do you have growing? been growen






Well I had to bring back the sick thread :beatingtodeath:

Its because Im new To this Promix? Dont think shes getting everything?? let me know what you guys think.






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    #760369 - 12/04/14 07:08 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Well how much in the way on nutrients have you been giving it


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    #760397 - 12/04/14 11:27 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Just what it says on the back of the maxibloom?


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    #760417 - 12/05/14 03:24 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

well the simplest thing i could recommend cause im not to sure what the prob is but i would flush the plants good with ph water and then give it a light feeding to get everything in the soil back in balance


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    #760444 - 12/05/14 05:42 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

:thumbup: thanks for your reply


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    #760481 - 12/05/14 02:23 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Did you ever get a ppm pen?  What's your tap water starting ppm and pH?  Pretty important to know.  Also a real digital pH meter, very important.  You may need an RO filter, depending.  Because if you don't know what's in your water, other than "it's tap water" that makes a proper diagnosis virtually impossible.

Your problem appears to be mineral related.  Get a good organic molasses, and add about a tablespoon a gallon.  Get some good cold processed seaweed and add about a tablespoon a gallon.  This with water only and when you would otherwise water. 

As to fertilizers, seems the companies want to sell you more.  I think about 1/2 to 2/3 of what they recommend is more like it, unless you really want to push your plants but that often leads to burn and other problems.


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    #760508 - 12/05/14 09:28 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

No I didnt get a ppm meter yet? But I have a ec wizerd stick I think ? Its on it way as we speak. Then we will see.I have a good ph tester a eco, Works great like 80.oo bucks.




My starting PH after it bubbled all night would be 7.0


Really the only time I use unsulphured Molassess was in flower?:wellidunno: What do I know?

I have been really looking into some kind of seaweed shit like seaweed extract.


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    #760604 - 12/06/14 06:18 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I like my Eco pH tester too (same as a meter?)


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    #764091 - 01/02/15 03:33 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

budgrowerwannabe said:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones?seed
2. How old are your plants? a month and couple days
3. How tall are your plants?18 inches
4. What size containers are they planted in?1 gal grow bags
5. What is your soil mix? Promix
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use and how much you give per watering? I water as needed,water type would be city water phed at 7.0 ppm 0.I give them water till i see a good bit coming out the bottom.
7. What is the pH of your water?before phing its 7.0 afer its phed to 6.3 to 6.6
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio?Maxiegrow/bloom,
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?no
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")800 hps
11. How close are your lights to the plants?18 inch
12. What size is your grow space in square feet? 6feet by 6 feet
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?day time 75 night 65
14. What is the pH of the soil? Well I ran phed nuts at 6.5 and The run off was 5.8 might have killed it here!!!
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space? nope
16. How much experience do you have growing? noob







Well this is one one the of those akxBD. Its been in flower like 2 weeks or so.
As you can see this didnt happen over night. To start this off I ran out of cal/mag and couldn't get any!I still didnt get any should be getting some tomorrow.

Ok so last night I was in the room and made a big fuck up.I made a bach of phed maxiegrow and gave it to this plant.
Its in flower? So before I finished I realized what was going down so I made like 4 gal of plan water phed at 6.5 and flushed all that out. Then I gave it a small feed mix.



Now bad did i stress this thing ?


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    #765154 - 01/13/15 01:02 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Bump Bump Bump
Well I guess ill answer my own shit ! I fixed it with some cal/mag plus.


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    #765162 - 01/13/15 01:35 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Good job bro, glad to see it's worked out


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    #765165 - 01/13/15 02:00 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

yep Thanks for the post. but I should be a mod on here im here more than anyone and i post a shit ton!


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