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Nutrient burn??/ Many plants/many problems???
    #690288 - 10/23/13 02:15 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

1. Are you growing from seed or clones?clones
2. How old are your plants?ruffly 3 months
3. How tall are your plants?2 feet
4. What size containers are they planted in? 3 gal grow bags
5. What is your soil mix? ff
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use and how much you give per watering?  phed water at 6.5 and as they need it I can feel how heavy the bag is .
7. What is the pH of your water?6.5
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio? ff trio pack
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?no
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")400 hps
11. How close are your lights to the plants?14 inches
12. What size is your grow space in square feet? 2x4x8
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?night time 65 day time 73ish
14. What is the pH of the soil? Dont know
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?yes had thrips
16. How much experience do you have growing?about four indoor and 2 outdoor harvests





I think is nut. burn,but I want some TC help


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #690292 - 10/23/13 03:23 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

I'm no tc, but that looks like nute burn.

How long have the plants been in the 3gal bags of ffof?

How often do you feed and are you testing the ppm/ec of your nute solution?

There could be a lil bit more food left in the soil causing them to burn a bit when you feed. Did this problem appear shortly after a feeding?

I'm sure you're aware of this but, even if your plants are getting the appropriate amount of nutrients, they wont be available if the ph is off.

Since you don't know the ph of your soil,I would test the run off ASAP to be certain you're not locking out nutrients.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: Farmer Joe]
    #690300 - 10/23/13 06:25 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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I'm no tc, but that looks like nute burn.

How long have the plants been in the 3gal bags of ffof?

How often do you feed and are you testing the ppm/ec of your nute solution?

There could be a lil bit more food left in the soil causing them to burn a bit when you feed. Did this problem appear shortly after a feeding?

I'm sure you're aware of this but, even if your plants are getting the appropriate amount of nutrients, they wont be available if the ph is off.

Since you don't know the ph of your soil,I would test the run off ASAP to be certain you're not locking out nutrients.






Thanks FJ for your advice.

They have been in them bags since I took the clones and transplanted

Here is the mom and babies They were taken 8/12/13

I try and feed them every other watering?
No I dont test for ppm/ec :smokerage: I would love to but dont have the money for those tools yet!Soon in the future.

I did notice this start happen alittle after I fed. It been a week or so since I took this pic.Also they needed water like 3 day ago And I plan on harvesting at the beginning of November so I Started to flush?? Or I just gave each one like 6 gallons of plan ph ed water Now should I do that again or no, kinda knew to the flushing .  Well with that said my soil is still wet I should I wait till it dries to test the soil ph? And I normally do check my soil run off but I guess I got lazy that day.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #690304 - 10/23/13 07:30 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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I did notice this start happen a little after I fed.




I'd say over feeding is the issue here.

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budgrowerwannabe said: Also they needed water like 3 day ago And I plan on harvesting at the beginning of November so I Started to flush?? Or I just gave each one like 6 gallons of plan ph ed water




Did you actually flush or are you asking me if you should? Sorry you lost me there.

A lot of growers flush differently. I flush my girls 3x in their life cycle. Once in the last week of veg. Once @ week 6 of flower. and then once more a week before the chop.

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budgrowerwannabe said: Well with that said my soil is still wet I should I wait till it dries to test the soil ph? And I normally do check my soil run off but I guess I got lazy that day.




Yes wait until your next watering to test the run off. Since you're only in 3gal bags it shouldn't take long for them to dry out. Especially since they're in ffof....which has great drainage to begin with.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: Farmer Joe]
    #690309 - 10/23/13 08:12 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

I smoked some widow and started typing sorry .I kinda new it was nute. burn but was not sure. So on my last watering I gave them 6 gallons of good water. Im  not to worried about the burn this late in flower but I want to make sure all the nute. are gone for a really good smoke. I dont want to taste that shit. So basic I ran 6 gallons threw to get all the extra crap out of the soil so it does not keep hurting her . Thats my thought process on that maybe Im wrong Now on my next watering should I give her like 9 gal.?Then wait till dry and harvest?


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #690322 - 10/23/13 10:13 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

nah I'd let them recover from the flush. water normally for one or two waterings and then hit them again. Are you sure those plants are gonna be ready by the begining of november? they still look like they've got a ways to go yet.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: Farmer Joe]
    #690366 - 10/24/13 04:51 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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nah I'd let them recover from the flush. water normally for one or two waterings and then hit them again. Are you sure those plants are gonna be ready by the begining of november? they still look like they've got a ways to go yet.





Funny you say that I was looking at them I think they might go passed November 1 theres only like one or too amber trichs??So I dont know?Ill try and get a fresh pic of them so you can see.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #690529 - 10/25/13 03:52 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Your problem is nute lockout.  You can feed your plant as little or as much as you'd like, but if the PH isn't correct your plant's roots won't be able to uptake the available nutrients and that'll cause the roots to burn resulting in nutrient lockout.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: hamloaf]
    #690532 - 10/25/13 05:37 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

thanks for the reply. I flushed them with 6 gal a week or so ago so now what?


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #690535 - 10/25/13 06:23 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Get a PH tester, mix your nutrient solution and test it's PH.  Adjust PH as needed and start feeding your plants again. 

I'd come back and hit them with just a quarter strength nutrient solution at first though.  If (when) they take that up with no problem and judging by how little of a problem they have taking up the quarter strength nutrient solution is how you can determine whether or to gradually and or immediately begin return to your normal feeding regimen.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: hamloaf]
    #690561 - 10/25/13 10:33 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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Get a PH tester, mix your nutrient solution and test it's PH.  Adjust PH as needed and start feeding your plants again. 

I'd come back and hit them with just a quarter strength nutrient solution at first though.  If (when) they take that up with no problem and judging by how little of a problem they have taking up the quarter strength nutrient solution is how you can determine whether or to gradually and or immediately begin return to your normal feeding regimen.





Where are you getting this?  He knows what the pH is.  It's stated in the first post, and is right where it should be.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #690564 - 10/25/13 10:46 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

From a cloud of smoke appearently, haha.  I was reading in one of these threads that somebody said they didn't know what their ph was and was having problems, that's how.  Upon rereading the original post must have gotten this thread mixed with another one.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: hamloaf]
    #690791 - 10/27/13 08:52 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)



here they are now whats u guys think?


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #690803 - 10/27/13 10:49 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

I don't think those plants are close to being harvested either.  "Flushing" is done by running 3 times the amount of plain ph'ed water (or you can use a clearing agent in the water) through each gallon of soil used.  Plants being flushed for harvest should be flushed for 10-14 days before harvesting for a better finished product.

They look worse.  They do not appear as if they have any sort of deficiency though.  Looks like classic nute burn. I'd flush those suckers out for a few days to wash away the excess nutrients, tear away those fan leaves that are damaged and check the ph of the soil.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: hamloaf]
    #690805 - 10/27/13 12:39 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

When i noticed it i flushed it with 6 gallon of water there in like 2 gal of dirt. in 3 gal bags but not full all the way

Im going to ph the run off of my next water en now should i flush that shit again or no ??


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #690808 - 10/27/13 02:17 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Have they received any nutrients since?  I wouldn't flush again. 

How far into flowering are they?


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #690828 - 10/27/13 07:41 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

I had the same thing going on some of my plants during this grow. I attributed it to ph issues and letting the EC get too high.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #690898 - 10/28/13 03:29 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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Have they received any nutrients since?  I wouldn't flush again. 

How far into flowering are they?





No more nut yet havent done anything since i gave them all that water.

Im not sure low long hawk they be flowering .  All the tricks are cloudy and its a 8 to 9 week strain.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #690902 - 10/28/13 04:15 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Just let her go then.


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Re: Nutrient burn?? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #690905 - 10/28/13 04:46 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Well I still have to water it a couple more times im betting before choppen . Should I just give it plan water? thats what ill do i guess Can I  give it sweet or no , and should I?


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