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Offline8787sunshine
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I once bought 30 clones of Matanuska Thunderfuck to start my grow
    #677092 - 07/04/13 11:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

We didn't know it was a CBD only strain.  It smelled really bomb and was extremely resinous.  It was definitely an indica.  We got a good yield and it finished fast.  Me and my homie laughed when we smoked it.  It has almost no high.  We couldn't figure it out.  It was later on while reading High Times that I found the answer:  It contained CBD almost entirely.
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Re: I once bought 30 clones of Matanuska Thunderfuck to start my grow [Re: 8787sunshine]
    #677097 - 07/05/13 05:03 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

If that is the same as ATF (which I think it is) I have to disagree. 

I am toking on some right now and it gets me pretty baked.





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Re: I once bought 30 clones of Matanuska Thunderfuck to start my grow [Re: Deadkndys420]
    #677101 - 07/05/13 07:40 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

This was the real stuff.  I read about it in High Times about 15 years later.  It's sometimes called Alaskan Thunderfuck or Mantanuska Tundra.  Me and my homie were perplexed, by this strain.  We couldn't figure out why it didn't get us high. 
I've seen it entered in competitions in High Times.  It's probably a cross.  The pure strain is reputed to have CBD only. 
When we smoked other strains, we got high.  CBD is thought to negate the effects of THC, but I didn't notice this effect.  The CBD makes you feel different, but it doesn't get you high.  Enjoy the ATF you're smoking.


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Re: I once bought 30 clones of Matanuska Thunderfuck to start my grow [Re: 8787sunshine]
    #677125 - 07/05/13 11:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

All websites i read it says its a indica dom hybrid that gives a nice stone.



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Matanuska Thunder Fuck refers to any good cannabis coming out of the Matanuska Valley in Alaska since the early 70s. If you research the history of Palmer, you will find that it was/is a government agriculture experimental station. The original families who moved here for this experiment had children in Palmer around the 40's & 50's that were influenced by the hippie movement and the influx of their kind to the Matanuska-Susitna Valley around the beginning of the 70's. With the knowledge those children gained, while working with their parents on their family farms growing up, and from the projects they were involved in at the experimental station as college students, and from a few new found hippy friends from the west coast of the US, they began flower-forcing by blacking out greenhouses during the summer. None made clones. They did remove males, and they knew how to prepare the cannabis for market. So with that, people in Alaska started to see some green bud as opposed to imported bud, and it was all coming out of the valley.
By the 80's, only a few of those people remained. Some were busted. Others moved on. Those that remained began taking clones and growing indoors. One of those men, Larry, met my father and taught him the techniques that some still use to this day here in the valley. Unfortunately, both Larry and my father are dead and the valley is full of greedy people, so the story of a strain named MTF just isn't true. Most people who say that they have smoked it give inconsistent descriptions for flavor and effect. Most of the cannabis in the valley is grown from seeds bought from mainstream seed banks/breeders.

Matanuska Thunder Fuck Myths-
To start, I have more than 20 years of experience with cannabis, beginning with guidance from my father. I feel sure that there are few people who know as much about MTF as I do. My family has lived in the Matanuska Valley/Palmer since 1940, well before Alaska was even a state.

MYTHS-
There is/was a strain named MTF/Matanuska Thunder Fuck- Any PREMIUM cannabis from the valley is called MTF.
Cannabis finishes flowering outdoors in the valley- Unless cannabis is auto-flowering it will grow large because of the long, bright days during summer, but it will never reach maturity before the cold and rain kill it. Light deprivation is the way to go.
This so-called strain named MTF needs a frost before harvest to yield maximum resin- Most cannabis is severely damaged if it does survive a frost. NOT RECOMMENDED!
This so-called strain named MTF is native to Alaska- NO cannabis is native to Alaska, or even the Americas. Try the Asian continent.
There are only mainstream strains in Alaska- If you know someone who's been growing in the valley since cloning caught on in the early 80's, you could possibly come across some of the old school clones, but I'd say it's improbable. Most don't even know where the clones that they get originated from. Of people making seeds, few really understand the science behind it, and the seed stock really doesn't compare to anything available on the world market. Although the work of quite a few commercial breeders is nothing to write home about, the few who do possess the knowledge won't reveal themselves or their methods for fear of loosing decades of hard work. And yes, they do possess genetic stock outside the world seed market. They're still hoping things will change and one day they will step up.
Cannabis is now only allowed for registered patients in Alaska- You can legally posses up to 28.35 grams in the PRIVACY of your home. Growing up to 24 plants is a misdemeanor. Although, according to one attorney he personally keeps up to four ounces (113.4 grams). Privacy, meaning no one can see it from a window or doorway outside your house.
Law enforcement in the valley can get warrants based on odors or abnormally high electric bills- They must be able to show probable cause that you are selling/distributing, cultivating(cannabis), or that you possess more than is allowed for personal use.
I think the lesson to take away from this is, what is being done in places like Amsterdam, Spain, UK, California, and Canada can be done anywhere on this planet. It has been done on ships in international waters, a shopping mall in Florida, even Antarctica. So, wherever you're at, you can grow MTF quality cannabis. Just remember, the more you educate yourself on the subject, ie., lab work, experiment, and cultivate, the more likely you will grow true THUNDER FUCK!
Disclaimer-In no way is this to be construed to be an advocation to break the law. I am not a lawyer, and in no way should you consider this legal advice. This is my view and I encourage you to discover truth for yourself.

written by Mat-M.T.F. Genetics-Palmer, Alaska

Addition (from a medical grower/researcher (Ph.D.)): A medical clone called "Matanuska Valley Thunder Fuck" (or MVTF) ended up in Oregon. It is said to be a cross between "golf bud" and the "original" Matanuska Thunderfuck, both created in Alaska. The flavor is a pungent orange-citrus and is unmistakable--the aroma, once burnt, will fill a room. The clone also went by the name "Tange" (short for Tangerine). It is a prolific producer of high quality flowers and is the earliest flowering outdoor plant I have ever grown.

It begins flowering by July 5th at 45 degrees N and finishes the first weeks of September. One of the single-best medical clones to grow outdoors--period. This particular clone is now available in several California dispensaries as well.

The Matanuska Valley is well known for its exceptional ability to grow vegetables. MTF is not so much a strain. It refers to virtually any marijuana grown in the Matanuska Valley. The Matanuska valley is a location that has an optimal growing season and extremely fertile soil. Consequently, seeds bought from the mainstream seed banks/breeders tend to grow to their optimal potential in the valley. Most old timers, like my old boss who lived there, grew and kept most of their yield for family and friends. The winter is long up here. I am always skeptical when I hear people talking about actually having some "MTF" in the lower 48.






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Re: I once bought 30 clones of Matanuska Thunderfuck to start my grow [Re: P-O]
    #677130 - 07/05/13 12:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Nico Escondido did the report in High Times, I believe  He referred to it as ATF and said it was a CBD only strain.  There are a bunch of them. 
I'm interested in THCN and THCV.  They are sometimes referred to interchangeably and sometimes as different cannabinoids.  Ever since medical, there's been a lot of research into cannabinoid profiles and chemistry.  It would be fun to get pure synthetic versions of each one and test them out.  Either that or genetically engineer pot to produce a single cannabinoid, if that's possible.
If you're interested, one of the major seedbanks probably has a CBD only strain.  It feels kind of like a warm breeze just blew through your mind, but there is almost no high.  We tried really smoking that, and nothing.


Edited by 8787sunshine (07/05/13 12:22 PM)


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Re: I once bought 30 clones of Matanuska Thunderfuck to start my grow [Re: 8787sunshine]
    #677131 - 07/05/13 12:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

make bho.....  do 5 fat dabs in a row.


then report back:vato:


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Re: I once bought 30 clones of Matanuska Thunderfuck to start my grow [Re: P-O]
    #677132 - 07/05/13 12:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

We tried really smoking it.  Almost no high.


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Re: I once bought 30 clones of Matanuska Thunderfuck to start my grow [Re: 8787sunshine]
    #677133 - 07/05/13 12:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

High Times is a fucking joke.


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Re: I once bought 30 clones of Matanuska Thunderfuck to start my grow [Re: 8787sunshine]
    #677134 - 07/05/13 12:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

can u post a pic?


U got me interested now


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Re: I once bought 30 clones of Matanuska Thunderfuck to start my grow [Re: P-O]
    #677145 - 07/05/13 01:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

From what I read the original ATF was a Sativa and somebody crossed it with an indica but forgot to keep the original Sativa around. :facepalm:

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Sucks the Real ATF seems to be gone forever.


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Re: I once bought 30 clones of Matanuska Thunderfuck to start my grow [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #677146 - 07/05/13 01:21 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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hawksapprentice said:
High Times is a fucking joke.



HT used to be a lot more in depth when I first read it.  I started reading it again about 9 years ago.  It was right about when the USA liberated Iraq.  They had the protest issue.  It's cool to read about protests and cannabinoids.
But I agree that High Times is a fucking joke.


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Re: I once bought 30 clones of Matanuska Thunderfuck to start my grow [Re: 8787sunshine]
    #677147 - 07/05/13 01:30 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It's just a big ad these days, and has been for a long time.  They'll have an interesting article every now and again, but not worth sifting through every issue to get to that.


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Re: I once bought 30 clones of Matanuska Thunderfuck to start my grow [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #677148 - 07/05/13 01:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You've got to sift through it.  I liked Hep Cat in old school High Times.  That comic strip made me laugh.


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Re: I once bought 30 clones of Matanuska Thunderfuck to start my grow [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #681111 - 08/10/13 10:56 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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hawksapprentice said:
High Times is a fucking joke.



i'd much rather read maximum yield, hydrolife, and rosebud. all pretty good mags!!


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