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Clones not doing so well outdoors
    #670845 - 05/15/13 02:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Soil Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones?
Clone

2. How old are your plants?
A month maybe :shrug:

3. How tall are your plants?
About 8 inches or so.

4. What size containers are they planted in?
In ground

5. What is your soil mix?
kelloggs patio with some gromulch

6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use and how much you give per watering?
I have been watering every other day

7. What is the pH of your water?
N/a

8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio?
Haven't used any yet

9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?
No

10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
Outdoor

11. How close are your lights to the plants?
N/a

12. What size is your grow space in square feet?
N/a

13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
Humidity is low and temps range from 80s-mid 90s during the day and 60-70 at night.

14. What is the pH of the soil?
N/a
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?
Yes there is some incest damage to the bottom leaves (I applied some organic pesticide yesterday derived from  chilis,water,soap,cooking oil, and baking soda.

16. How much experience do you have growing?
Not much only grew one plant outdoors.



So a I transplanted my clones in ground on Sunday night. They have seemed to be doing good until today. I noticed some leaves are dried up and some are yellowing.I gave them some B1 to helo reduce shock. On Monday it was 105 outside and didn't seem to have any effect on them.



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Re: Clones not doing so well outdoors [Re: Deadkndys420]
    #670848 - 05/15/13 03:28 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I'd get some shade on them.  Construct a overhang to cut down on the direct light and temps.


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Re: Clones not doing so well outdoors [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #670866 - 05/15/13 04:29 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I put a sheet over them so hopefully that helps.



Do you think they will bounce back or are they too far gone?


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Re: Clones not doing so well outdoors [Re: Deadkndys420]
    #670888 - 05/15/13 07:06 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

If you keep them shaded and protected there's no reason they shouldn't.  Is your soil really drying out every other day?  How much are you giving them when you water?


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Re: Clones not doing so well outdoors [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #670890 - 05/15/13 07:10 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

On hot days (95+) it dries out pretty quick but when its mild (75-85) outside I water every 2 days.

The amount of  water is when it starts puddling up I don't know the exact amount( I would guess maybe a gallon to a gallon and a half). I also get good drainage as it drains in about a minute or so.


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Re: Clones not doing so well outdoors [Re: Deadkndys420]
    #670901 - 05/15/13 07:41 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

You are straight in the ground right?  If so saturate the shit out of that soil.


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Re: Clones not doing so well outdoors [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #670902 - 05/15/13 07:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Will do.

I'll start adding more water next time I water.


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Re: Clones not doing so well outdoors [Re: Deadkndys420]
    #670917 - 05/15/13 10:13 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

. What is your soil mix?
kelloggs patio with some gromulch




Next time no mulch and maybe a little perlite.


Quote:

. What is the pH of your water?
N/a




Your close to me so your water is most likely in the 7 to 8 range


What does your grow mulch consist of? Cause those plants are burnt. Look at the last pic. See how the leaf is cupping or rolling in a the sides of the blades. That is for sure nute burn.

Your are in-between myself and one of my gardens. One day I'll have to stop by and take care of that shit for ya................Joke :tongue:


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Re: Clones not doing so well outdoors [Re: Magash]
    #670921 - 05/15/13 10:50 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I added more perlite in there you just can see it. And the NPK for the mulch is 30 10 10 and is mostly bark.

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This mixture is fortified with iron to help plants photosynthesize, nitrogen to keep leaves green, phosphorus to build roots that are strong and healthy, and potassium to fend off plant diseases. Humus also plays a big role in this beneficial mixture





Is there anyway to help them get better?


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Re: Clones not doing so well outdoors [Re: Deadkndys420]
    #670940 - 05/16/13 12:55 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Oh shit, that's way too high for a seedling man....unless you transplant them, there's no way to get rid of the nutrients


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Re: Clones not doing so well outdoors [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #670942 - 05/16/13 01:26 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Alright I just put them in some kelloggs by itself.


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Re: Clones not doing so well outdoors [Re: Deadkndys420]
    #670944 - 05/16/13 01:47 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Ok, their in bad shape no other way to look at it and now their gonna have some transplant shock. The reason is I'm assuming you took soil off of the roots to stop the burning so they were exposed and moving around. Water with a B-1 solution to help ease the transplant shock.

I'll be as nice as I can.........They may survive.

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Re: Clones not doing so well outdoors [Re: Magash]
    #670956 - 05/16/13 05:41 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Well I had a really bad brun/problem one time and I had to get it out of some shitty soil. What I did was filled a bucket with water took my plant out of the pot and put it in the bucket with water and really gently kinda washed all the dirt off!!  Came out with just a nice root ball!Besides the recovery from shock It bounced back really nice.          :happyweed:


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Re: Clones not doing so well outdoors [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #671006 - 05/16/13 03:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Well I had a really bad brun/problem one time and I had to get it out of some shitty soil. What I did was filled a bucket with water took my plant out of the pot and put it in the bucket with water and really gently kinda washed all the dirt off!!  Came out with just a nice root ball!Besides the recovery from shock It bounced back really nice.          :happyweed:




I hear ya and on this subject you know more then I do. Reason for that is I have never tried to bring back plants as bad off as I see in these pics. Good to know it's possible cause plants like in the pics I've pretty much already considered dead or just plain not worth the effort cause of the recovery time required.



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Re: Clones not doing so well outdoors [Re: Magash]
    #671007 - 05/16/13 03:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Could you give me a rough estimate on how long recover could be?

I might just scrap these and get some more.


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Re: Clones not doing so well outdoors [Re: Deadkndys420]
    #671009 - 05/16/13 03:51 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Scrap and get more if you that option.  It could take weeks for it to regain full vigor. 


Make sure the clones you get are nice and healthy.


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Re: Clones not doing so well outdoors [Re: Deadkndys420]
    #671010 - 05/16/13 03:58 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Well like I said I have not tried to bring em back from this far gone cause from what I have seen in the past and going by the amount of burnt foliage, root shock and if I remember right bugs it's gonna be weeks easy. In a month from now even if everything goes right their not gonna look all that different.

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Re: Clones not doing so well outdoors [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #671082 - 05/16/13 08:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Scrap and get more if you that option.  It could take weeks for it to regain full vigor. 


Make sure the clones you get are nice and healthy.




This is easily done if you can get the clones and what knot! But some people have a hard time getting some good seeds.If you can getem trash them if not try and save them!


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Re: Clones not doing so well outdoors [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #671107 - 05/17/13 01:13 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

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Scrap and get more if you that option.  It could take weeks for it to regain full vigor. 


Make sure the clones you get are nice and healthy.




This is easily done if you can get the clones and what knot! But some people have a hard time getting some good seeds.If you can getem trash them if not try and save them!






Well if you read though it, we already went over that.  That's why I said what I said


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Re: Clones not doing so well outdoors [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #671124 - 05/17/13 05:16 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Didnt reread the thread sorry just said what i was thinking.


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