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 Serious seeds AK-47 (400w coco LST plantlog) *DELETED* 
#651801 - 12/18/12 07:48 AM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Post deleted by ReaperReason for deletion: Unhelpful mods, unhelpful members.
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: Reaper]
#651804 - 12/18/12 08:35 AM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: Reaper]
#651834 - 12/18/12 12:55 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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You need help with what?
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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Two of my feminized seeds are full on males, we're not sure what's gone on. I got them from attitude so it could be something to do with them but serious have offered to replace them anyway,,  .
It's puts a bit of a question mark over what strain i have exactly right now.
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: Reaper]
#651837 - 12/18/12 01:06 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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It sure does, and Serious is a great seed company. I had a feeling theyd do ya right.
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Yeah, mistakes happen. No hard feelings. I hope i have a lot of stretch to play with, lots more space for them now.
I'll get in touch with SS again at the end.
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Would you say this looks well fed, not over fed but on the high side ? I've dropped my nutes to a low 1.4EC, the run off's 1.1 and i still think that might be too high. Well it was 1.2 yesterday so i'll try and keep it at 1.1 for a bit and see how it does.
It seems so low, i never get anywhere near 1.8/2.0's i read about.
 
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: Reaper]
#653609 - 01/03/13 06:07 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not surprised at all man, and you may still be a bit high.
But the plants look good as far as I can tell.
I tend to run my ec anywhere from 0.6 to 1.3.
I've only had one strain go higher up to 1.75.
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: Stoneth]
#653623 - 01/03/13 07:33 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks, that's what i wanted to hear. It fucks with your head when the guide's saying more but your experience is so much different, it casts a shadow over your decision making. I was really wondering how low i could take it.
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: Reaper]
#653626 - 01/03/13 07:51 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey a lot of guides forget not all plants are created equal.
Some eat very little where others don't know when to quit.
The trick is to find just the right level and give the plant just what it needs.
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: Stoneth]
#653633 - 01/03/13 08:27 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Some plants might hack their light feeding schedule but i've yet to find one. I don't know wtf their medium/heavy schedule's for.
I've had problems nearly every time, just this is the lowest EC i've ever had coming out the bottom.
I made a log here last grow and it's totally changed my approach because i can see exactly where it starts, i'm determined to stop it going down that path again.
Everyone should make a grow log, even if you just do it in private.
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: Reaper]
#653643 - 01/03/13 09:47 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think this is AK anyway. I found an old pic i think's from my last AK grow and my 2nd plant matches up well, the one i'm logging has enough in common with the 2nd to make me think it's a different pheno.
It was a bit gangly, you can see
My 2nd plant's smaller probably because i started it earlier, i was going for 4 smaller plants before the males. It's the same gangly thing going on.
  
Nice sativa leaves,
The one i'm logging took to the LST style much better, nice petite leaves but they're still sativa'ish. It's shorter but there's more growth. That thing's a wide as the door.
   
I chopped the males back, i was going to try and get some pollen. I over did one plant and ditched it, the other got to go on a bit longer but the buds are falling off. I don't want it in the cab even with the glass thing.
 
 
Serious seeds sent me some feminized Motivation free of charge,  .
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: Stoneth]
#656334 - 01/25/13 09:37 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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My run off EC's changed all of a sudden, it's gone from 0.9 to 1.5 in a week and some deficiencies are showing. It's not absorbing nutes anymore but the PH is spot on 6 and she's still drinking a lot so i guess it's time to flush ?
I usually have this earlier where i start needing to flush it down, the run off starts being higher than what i'm putting in. I always thought it was because of a build up but i think now it's the plant telling me it's requirements have changed so i should be dropping my nutes in future rather than trying to flush it out. Good to know,, .
She's on day 49 now. This grow's flown.
    
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: Reaper]
#656409 - 01/26/13 02:41 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: shagdawg420]
#656431 - 01/26/13 06:18 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow, that is a really nice grow.
Hey, so did you cut the tops at all or just train them?
Looks like you were able to obtain that many tops with out cutting.
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: DrCrumbs]
#656448 - 01/26/13 09:41 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi, thanks ! She was topped 10 days into flowering. The main stem gets too strong for the sticks if i don't top it, it's hard to keep the canopy level. They level out beautifully if you take the main tip off.
There's always a surplus of tops if you keep tying the side shoots down. The side shoots can't grow out fast enough to make space for all the tertiary shoots. I usually have to take some out when they're on top of each other.
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: Reaper]
#656598 - 01/28/13 02:17 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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that is some serious LST! fucking amazing looking!
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: gorlax]
#656658 - 01/28/13 01:41 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Very cool, thanks for letting me know.
I'm always afraid to top during flowering, but I need to just get over it. Its amazing how much good can come from doing stuff that looks like it would just kill any other plant.
So is this 12/12 from seed, if not on what day did you switch to flowering?
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: DrCrumbs]
#656715 - 01/28/13 05:58 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I vegged for 18 days. I go until the first side shoots are long enough to take strings then let the plant burst out of that. Train through the first few weeks of flowering then fingers crossed for the late stretch, different strains are different. If i was growing an Indica i'd veg it a lot longer, this doesn't work well with low stretch stains unless you want a really short plant.
You can train the shit out of your plants before they start budding. Anything goes really, i've only had one hermie in 4 years and that was due to the cold i think.
A lot of things fell right for the AK. It's invaded the space of the other one. I had to train one of them wide to make up space after finding the males. The second plant had it's corner trained out at the last minute. It exists at the edge of the cab, it's gonna make some nice canna butter.
  
It would have had big fluffy buds if it was a full plant under the light. It stretched for longer so it's a bit behind. It's a bit over fed on the same nutes as the other as well, i've fixed it now.
The color change on the dashes in the log signifies veg/flowering times and i underlined the days that have any content to make it easier to read, i should probably mention it somewhere.
Thanks gorlax, and for the rating,, .
Here's some trichomes, big pics.
  
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: Reaper]
#656726 - 01/28/13 07:25 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Man that shit looks good as hell!!!!!!!
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Wow they can really take some abuse with that broken stem not even slowing it down.
I just broken a stem a couple of days ago trying to do some training. I put some tape on it and mist it daily. It doesnt seem to be dying off at all.
Do you prefer to train when the plant is well hydrated or dehydrated?
Is the ak 47 a sativa dominate strain?
Just amazing pictures.
Edited by DrCrumbs (01/30/13 02:56 AM)
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: DrCrumbs]
#656883 - 01/30/13 10:38 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've seen broken tops hanging on by one rib before looking like nothing's happened. If you lose stems early on the space just fills in with other leaves/branches and the energy's diverted. I snapped some this grow, they were really brittle early on.
My plants are always hydrated, they get watered everyday, sometimes twice a day for a big plant. I've never noticed any difference training at different times.
Ak's a sativa/indica mix. I'd call it a short stretch sativa.
I did serious seeds white russian the same way and ended up with these.
  
They stretched like fuck after 3 weeks.
This was Nirvana's Papaya, i vegged it longer than the White russian,
(Day 3 of flowering)
and ended up with this,
That was a real slow stretch strain, i knew it as well but i didn't compensate enough. It was the wrong strain for the job really.
Nirvanas PPP (pure power plant) done the same as the AK,
  
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: Reaper]
#656885 - 01/30/13 10:43 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hooly shnitz!
Anyone see my jaw?
Dropped it around here somewhere
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: Maestro]
#656892 - 01/30/13 12:32 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Amazing what a bit of string and some sticks can do,,  .
I forgot to mention, sometimes you get small pheno's from strains that are ok for this tek. I usually grow 4 plants, i keep the biggest 2 as full plants then whatever's left gets cut back to make them fit in my small space. Chopping a small pheno back before the late stretch will make it a taller plant in the end so that's how i've got around small pheno's. I probably could have done that to the papaya but i was following it from the beginning and i decided to keep it a full plant even though it was small.
It was a pain to train, never again. I doubt Sensi star would take to it either.
If you had clones it wouldn't be a problem. I don't have space for a mother plant.
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: Reaper]
#657057 - 02/01/13 12:51 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just dida papaya grow it was much smaller. What do you use for nutes?
It turned out really good though.
Out of ten fem seeds only 3 sprouted.
Everything elsed i ve ordered has sprouted 100% (about 45 seeds).
So i dunno if they were super old or what, but i ve noticed herbies no longer carries it.
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: DrCrumbs]
#657080 - 02/01/13 08:58 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Attitude still sell it. It was painfully slow, i had to veg it longer and it had rot at the end. Because it was so low i had to remove loads of leaves/stems. It still yielded over 3 ounce. It's good weed it was just a poor selection for the style, my fault really. I knew AK would be a better plant.
I use Canna's A and B nutes in coco.
It should be done soon, i'll try and stretch it out for another log update.
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: Reaper]
#657146 - 02/01/13 07:43 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah mine was super leafy. I really wish i had tied the branches apart.
When do you harvest?
I ve been using overdrive on my last two harvests i noticed that the trich s turn amber before the hairs die. Which can lead to white hairs when dry if i dont dry super slow.
Trying final phase on this next one to see if a good flush will cause the plant to die on time.
Any way i noticed on one ofyour last pics you onlyhad a few red hairs. Wondered if thats the point of harvest?
And if you get all redhairs by the time its dry.
Edited by DrCrumbs (02/01/13 10:58 PM)
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: DrCrumbs]
#657222 - 02/02/13 09:25 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I hope i time the flush right then go when i'm happy. AK's rated for 53-63 days according to their site. I'll go at day 60 unless the deficiencies freak me before. There's still quite a few white hairs, i go off the hairs, the general look of the buds and the extra sway they get in the last week from weight.
I might have done the AK slightly early, i think i would drop the nutes by half next time for a few days, try and stop the run off EC going wild.
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: Reaper]
#657469 - 02/02/13 10:32 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I did it tonight, i can't see the point of letting it eat into the buds. It's good enough. My papaya was cut earlier and with no flush at all and that weed's fine, i might not drop it to no nutes at all in future, or just do it for the last few days.
I'll update the log tomorrow, i'm all hot and sticky and it's half 5 in the morning. I talked to serious seeds any they gave me the thumbs up on it being AK. I already had a good idea it was because i found some pics from an old grow. You can draw your own conclusions on the males, Ak's still one of my favorite strains to grow.
  
There's the other plant to cut yet, it'll be another week at least.
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: Reaper]
#657494 - 02/03/13 12:11 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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really nice grow man. short, wide and stacked! Love it when they turn out like that. 
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Re: Serious seeds AK-47. [Re: phrostbyte]
#660741 - 03/01/13 01:49 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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This one rolls in 4 weeks late at 82 days totally raping AK's uniformity,,  . It started growing these skinny foxtails in the 8th week, i thought it was stretching because it was far from the light but they actually started filling out. The center bud turned into one of the biggest i've ever had i think.
Luckily i think i'll yield the same with 2 plants as i do with 4 so i'll be going 2 again next grow.
Early foxtailing,
 
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I got a healthier fade on the plant, it was on reduced nutes for 3 weeks and flushed for 2 days at the end. I was feeding her 0.8 (plain water EC of 0.3) She was living off 1.3 earlier on if i remember right, same as the other plant but the run off was 1.2 for a good portion of the grow.
A slow leech makes a prettier plant i reckon, although starting at 5 weeks on a 8 week strain might be too early.
That draws this grow to an end, thanks for watching. I'll update yields soon.
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