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philips allstart cdm lights
    #651248 - 12/15/12 08:41 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

My site says there coming so but i found a site with a 6 pack for sale for $190 are they worth it. What type of ballast will they use. can some one point me in the direction of some more info?

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Re: philips allstart cdm lights [Re: strangladesh]
    #651249 - 12/15/12 08:44 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Its a 1000watt

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Re: philips allstart cdm lights [Re: strangladesh]
    #651272 - 12/15/12 11:10 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

If you give us a link we may be able to help you better


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Re: philips allstart cdm lights [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #651299 - 12/16/12 05:47 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)


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Re: philips allstart cdm lights [Re: strangladesh]
    #651384 - 12/16/12 01:48 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Why would you pay so much money for something that you're only going to use in veg?  Just get a HPS and run with that the whole way through.  I stopped using MH awhile ago.


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Re: philips allstart cdm lights [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #651448 - 12/16/12 06:38 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

well they are under the same sectin of this site under cmh. i figured they would be on par if not better.


Actually the site says its a new version of the cmh

http://www.growlightexpress.com/ceramic-metal-halide-bulbs-9/

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Re: philips allstart cdm lights [Re: strangladesh]
    #651450 - 12/16/12 06:39 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I saw what they are.  But you only use MH for veg, so it's not really worth the extra money.


Like I said, I stopped even using MH in my grows awhile ago, there's no real need.


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Re: philips allstart cdm lights [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #651526 - 12/16/12 11:06 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)




Ok this is the specs of a 400cmh to a 400hps, know do you understand why they are so much better,

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Re: philips allstart cdm lights [Re: strangladesh]
    #651532 - 12/16/12 11:51 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I've used them, they don't produce the same.....They tried to tell us this when they first came out, and they didn't yield anywhere near what the standard HPS was yielding. 


Go for it if you want though.


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Re: philips allstart cdm lights [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #651549 - 12/17/12 12:41 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

r u talking about the cmh or the allstarts?

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Re: philips allstart cdm lights [Re: strangladesh]
    #651550 - 12/17/12 12:46 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

ANY full spectrum MH.


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Re: philips allstart cdm lights [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #651552 - 12/17/12 12:57 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I disagree ive been running 400cmh and they are comparable to 1000w hps  which i used to use. Im using an extr bulb but my yeilds have increased.

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Re: philips allstart cdm lights [Re: strangladesh]
    #651554 - 12/17/12 12:58 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Document start to finish results then :cookiemonster:


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Re: philips allstart cdm lights [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #651555 - 12/17/12 12:59 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

lots have.. I dont have the time and its irrelevant to this thread. Im asking about this new tech...

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Re: philips allstart cdm lights [Re: strangladesh]
    #651556 - 12/17/12 01:05 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Well I have tried this shit, and it didn't show any type of increase in yield.  There's my answer for ya.


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    #651591 - 12/17/12 09:07 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: philips allstart cdm lights [Re: curbstop]
    #651593 - 12/17/12 09:20 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

It's just an energy saving lamp. For instance the 830w goes into a 1000w. Feel free to spend $900 on 6. I'd spend that money on a tried and true lamp designed for plant growth. These lamps are designed for businesses running hid lighting as a means of saving on their energy bill.


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Re: philips allstart cdm lights [Re: NameInUse]
    #651599 - 12/17/12 10:50 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I actually found 6 bulbs for $190...thats $30 a piece.

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Re: philips allstart cdm lights [Re: strangladesh]
    #651664 - 12/17/12 02:32 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I found 6 bulbs for $190 from what ive read they are far superior to hp and cmh. Here is a site with the spectrum chart.

what do you guys think.

http://www.usa.ecat.lighting.philips.com/l/professional-lamps/high-intensity-discharge-lamps/outdoor-ceramic-white-light/energy-advantage-cdm-allstart/928601172801_na/

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Re: philips allstart cdm lights [Re: strangladesh]
    #651670 - 12/17/12 03:35 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.eyehortilux.com/products/High-Pressure-Sodium#shps


Well here's the Super HPS from Hortilux.  I haven't tried that bulb specifically. 

Do you have a link to these grows that are far superior using this bulb?


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