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What is the problem with these babies ?
    #630398 - 07/04/12 06:48 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Hi guys, i need some help with the experts here to diagnose what seems to be the problem with my plants.

I'm confused with the problem as being Nutrient Burn.. OR Nitrogen deficiency *looks like it in the diagnose guide*


Symptoms are leaves turning yellow and dry-ish... and eventually whole leaves turns yellow and drops off.. younger lower leaves are turning yellow and drops off too..

I've stopped all kind of nutrients and have been flushing them with RO Distilled water *cost me huge amount of $$$* for the past 3 days.

These are the photos to my  grow.. any help will be very grateful!





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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: digitalsinz]
    #630399 - 07/04/12 06:53 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Soil Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones?
2. How old are your plants?
3. How tall are your plants?
4. What size containers are they planted in?
5. What is your soil mix?
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use?
7. What is the pH of your water?
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio?
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
11. How close are your lights to the plants?
12. What size is your grow space in square feet?
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
14. What is the pH of the soil?
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?
16. How much experience do you have growing?

Hydro Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones?
2. How old are your plants?
3. How tall are your plants?
4. What type of hydro system are you using?
5. What brand/type of nutrients are you using?
6. What is the Ph of your nutrient solution?
7. What is the PPM/EC of your tap water?
8. What is the PPM/EC of your nutrient solution?
9. What is the temperature of your nutrient solution?
10. Does your PPM/EC show a rise or fall when you do your daily PPM check?
11. Does your pH show a rise or fall when you do your daily check?
12. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?
13. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
14. How close are your lights to the plants?
15. What size is your grow space in square feet?
16. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
17. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?
18. How much experience do you have growing?


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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? *DELETED* [Re: brainsOplenty]
    #630400 - 07/04/12 06:54 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: brainsOplenty]
    #630414 - 07/04/12 08:08 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Soil Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones?
- They are from variety of seeds ranging from BF Vanilla Kush to DP Purple Haze #1 ... and many other free seeds that comes with the purchase.  not from clones.

2. How old are your plants?
- They are 5 weeks from the day it was planted to soil.

3. How tall are your plants?
- There are different types ... the tallest being 35cm , shortest being just under 15cm (from top soil)

4. What size containers are they planted in?
- These are plastic containers available with bottom holes to regulate excess water . measures 25x25x25cm

5. What is your soil mix?
- This is a question im unable to answer. It is the most expensive (and the best available in my country, Indonesia) which uses 100% organic compost materials. Sold by sacks.

6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use?
- Watered using pH 7.0 Reverse Osmosis distilled water purchased by the gallons, once every day (for the small pot) and once every other day (for the bigger pot)

7. What is the pH of your water?
- pH 7.0 Straight distilled.


8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio?
- Please see image below for my NPK and fertilizer content.

9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?
- I do spray with the RO water to mist the leaves...

10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
- Currently im still using a single 400w HPS watt , but i do have another one installed and ready to light it up .. but i did not see the requirement to...

11. How close are your lights to the plants?
- its about 30cm away.. not too hot for my hands. and it is air conditioned cooled. Temps are 30-31deg celcious... depens on the weather..

12. What size is your grow space in square feet?
- Plenty of space..  its a 3x4 meters grow (10x13 ft room)


13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
- Temperature varies from 30-31 deg C (88 deg F) and 60-65% humidity..

14. What is the pH of the soil?
- Soil ph is about 7.2-7.4 .. i know this is a bit too high.. but i've tried Sulphuric acid (battery acid) , lemon, ph Down for aquarium.. but the ph climbs back to normal !

15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?
- The grow room have been very sterile.. there are no rooms and even gaps for any fuckers to come in.

16. How much experience do you have growing?
- I do have a previous experience (successful) using hyrdrophonics.. but this is my first time using soil . I'm unable to get my hands on good nutes for hydro in my country. Hence, i have to make do with whatever i have here to sustain the growth..

Any help is greatly appreciated!





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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: brainsOplenty]
    #630415 - 07/04/12 08:11 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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brainsOplenty said:
it's always my first guess, but people just don't pay attention to it...PH






i've tried means and ways to get the pH lower :frown: but im unable to..  i've tried everything by the guides available online.

Tried:
- Sulphuric Acid (Battery water)
- pH down for aquariums
- Lemon juice
- Distilled Vinegar


it seems that the pH is coming back to its original state... and never a permanent fix....

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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? *DELETED* [Re: digitalsinz]
    #630417 - 07/04/12 08:30 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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    #630418 - 07/04/12 08:36 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: brainsOplenty]
    #630430 - 07/04/12 10:55 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Actually 6.5.-6.8 is the standard for soil.  Now watering with a pH of 7 isn't going to be an issue, nor is the 7 something pH of your soil. 


What form of sulfuric acid are you using?  And how are you administering it?  A lot of the pH downs you buy are just sulfuric acid, so depending on how you've been applying it I doubt that's the problem. 


My money is on the nutrient.  With stats like that you don't need much at all.  I would stop watering at this point and let them dry out a bit.  You should only be watering when the soil is dry, otherwise you're going to drown out the root system.


Also the proper way to flush is to put 3-5 times the amount of water to soil ratio through your substrate in one sitting, not over a series of days.  Stop feeding them and they will more than likely recover at this point.


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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #630458 - 07/04/12 02:39 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

fert burns big time. 

you should be able to save them. but ida soaked them bottom up, not flushing water down. all this does is concentrate the nutes in the bottom the pot.  old bath tub or something you can make a flood with, garden hose in the driveway.. 
this way you get run off in both top and bottom. Then you can stop watering for a while. Id soak them, and a day of darkness/or low light and then Id blast them with a 24hr light cycle for a week. just so they can suck it all up, and dry out some too.. good luck.


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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: orison319]
    #630461 - 07/04/12 03:19 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Soaking doesn't adequately flush the nutrients out of the soil.  Otherwise that would be the standard man.  The action of the water moving through the soil will actively rinse the nutrients out of the soil, soaking will not.


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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #630537 - 07/04/12 09:39 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Im trying to say you need a flood in both directions, up and and down the soil.. maybe because I have the area for a washout. I dont piss around when I get a nute burn. them bitches will go in the shower with a monsoon rain for a few hours.. hence the flood/soaked/washed out..


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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: brainsOplenty]
    #630541 - 07/04/12 10:05 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

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if you put battery acid on your babies, that's probably why they're screaming!
you should be watering with a PH of about 6.0-6.5 for soil.
buy the necessary tools for the job.
general hydroponics sells a ph test kit that comes with drip test solution, PH up, and PH down.
if your using RO filtered water, you'll need a calcium-magnesium supplement.
you should flush your plants immediately with PH 6.0-6.5 water at a rate of three times the container size. (i.e 3 gallon pot flush with 9 gallons of water)
i've said it before that vinegar and lemon juice will work in a pinch, but should not be used on a regular basis.
they are no substitute for proper ph adjusting solutions.

so flush them babies out and see how it goes from there.





well, i'm not saying that im pouring Sulphuric Acid to me plants. Its been diluted .. by the drops..  to lower the pH to 6.0-6.3 .. and administer to the plants..

and yet..  im still reading a pH of 7.2+ for the soil 2-3 days later...

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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: orison319]
    #630544 - 07/04/12 10:10 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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orison319 said:
fert burns big time. 

you should be able to save them. but ida soaked them bottom up, not flushing water down. all this does is concentrate the nutes in the bottom the pot.  old bath tub or something you can make a flood with, garden hose in the driveway.. 
this way you get run off in both top and bottom. Then you can stop watering for a while. Id soak them, and a day of darkness/or low light and then Id blast them with a 24hr light cycle for a week. just so they can suck it all up, and dry out some too.. good luck.




i've taken the necessary precautions by changing the soil into fresh ones (no-nutrients addes as of now)  and flushed twice the size of the pot with RO distilled water.


should i blast them with 24hrs of light ? what will these effect on my grow ?

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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: digitalsinz]
    #630552 - 07/04/12 10:29 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

What kind of light cycle are you on now?  I wouldn't be concerned with the soil pH.


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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #630556 - 07/05/12 12:21 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

im on a 18/6 light cycle .. do chaning light cycle affects the way nutrients are delivered to the plants ? should i lower them to 12/12 ? or straight up 24/0 ?Please advise. thx

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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: digitalsinz]
    #630596 - 07/05/12 01:53 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

You only want to lower to 12/12 if you're ready to start flowering, and I would wait for them to get a bit healthier before doing that.


Changing the light light cycle doesn't really change the way the plant takes nutrients, but can cause stress.  I would just leave it at 18/6.


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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #631007 - 07/08/12 11:43 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

is that VK for vanilla kush? if so it is a biotch of a plant, they call it vanilla cause it turns yellow like vanilla flowers but also means its just a biotch. lol

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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: the man]
    #631457 - 07/12/12 07:09 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Hello guys! Thank you for all the replies.. as recommended by hawksapprentice and orison319 .. i did both flushing with 3x the amount of the container and changing the pH of my water feeding to 6.5~6.7 average for the past week and i DO get results!!

Here are some pics of my those that Recuperate well ... why im saying that they are recuperating is that these are the ones that is growing new leaves without any yellowing discolouration or any sort of yellowing


















Here is one that is NOT doing too good.. i have mixed feelings whether to scrap this one out...






Temperature is at...




I forgot which ones are which in these photos, but they are a mix of DP Purple #1, Vanilla Kush, BigBud and Liberty Haze ..

and finally,

Does the leaves that is yellow and or sick.. is going to turn back to green or are they going to drop off ? because im not seeing any sign that they are going to return to green...

Since this is a stunted growth , does this affect the lifespan for these cannabis in my growing calendar before turning to flowering mode ?

How long does it take for these sick plants to go back to its 'normal' state ?

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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: digitalsinz]
    #632046 - 07/18/12 11:29 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

i've tried to add 1gram of aluminium sulphate to my 3 litres of soil (for experimentation), mix them evenly  and watered it and had an average ph of 6.5-6.6 .. but 2 days later-today-, i do a ph test and it rises back to 7.2 ! what seems to cause this problem ?

anybody have answers ?

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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: digitalsinz]
    #632048 - 07/19/12 01:48 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Don't worry about you're soil pH.  Just keep watering and feeding with a pH of 6.5 or so.


No the leaves wont repair themselves.  You look to the new growth to see if they are recovering.  Make sure you let them dry out in between watering,


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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #633314 - 07/31/12 08:00 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Hi guys, i've flushed these babies with 5.1ph Water last thursday (previously soil was 7.3+ph) .. im at lost here.. there doesnt seem to be a change in , and maybe its going from bad to worse!  All me leaves are lime green.. the bottom leaves are yellowish in colour.. some are spotted .. and the list goes on.. you can view them with the images below..


This time , i do believe that there must be something to do with the fertilizers.. i mean.. these are all deficiencies.. i'm going with multiple deficiencies (judging by the nutrient guide in the sticky post) ...


Should I do an experimentation by applying stronger nutrients ? (mixed with 6.5ph water ?) I'm really confused now.

There are 2 pots that show some kind of improvement .. the top leaves are dark green - which i think is a good sign - although the bottom sections are yellowing and/or withering (crispy dry) ..

And also , will these be any problem with the light ? since im using HPS (400w) x2 for 15 pot of plant .. distance is about 24inch approximately.. its on air-conditioned sealed room .

Any advise guys ? I'm fucking desperate now :frown:

















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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: digitalsinz]
    #633318 - 07/31/12 09:31 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

by the pics, it seems you only water them a little at a time. ..do you?

as in you water around the plant but dont soak all of the soil in the pot. maybe it's the pics?

This could be(have been?) the problem (salts building up and not being washed out)


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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: Maestro]
    #633328 - 07/31/12 12:05 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

He's already flushed.  It's not toxic salt build up.


Looks like you're getting deficiencies now.  Nitrogen to be exact.  Up your fert dose.  Feed it every other watering.  And make sure that you're letting the containers dry out thoroughly in between waterings, and then when you water that it's a good amount of water.


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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #633561 - 08/02/12 06:56 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Maestro: Ermm.. i'm using Reverse Osmosis distilled water bought from convenience store .. yes.. I only water 'around' the areas of the roots .. not through the whole soil area ... Is that wrong ?

Well, i assume that since they are still young, the roots won't spread out just yet... once they develop at least some height, i'll start to water them evenly and more... im using too huge of a container right now :frown:

hawksapprentice: I believe so.. i'm adding fertilizers as we speak, 2.5grams per litre... the recommended dosage (From the packaging) the ph of diluted nutrients in the water is around pH6.1 .. its tinted slightly blue.. here is some photos of it..

i'm crossing my finger that everything will go as planned.





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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: digitalsinz]
    #633582 - 08/02/12 12:13 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I take back my statement.  Feed it every 3-4 waterings with a 20-20-20 ratio.  And you should be thoroughly saturating your soil when you water.


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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: digitalsinz]
    #633815 - 08/04/12 03:07 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Maestro: Ermm.. i'm using Reverse Osmosis distilled water bought from convenience store .. yes.. I only water 'around' the areas of the roots .. not through the whole soil area ... Is that wrong ?

Well, i assume that since they are still young, the roots won't spread out just yet... once they develop at least some height, i'll start to water them evenly and more... im using too huge of a container right now :frown:

hawksapprentice: I believe so.. i'm adding fertilizers as we speak, 2.5grams per litre... the recommended dosage (From the packaging) the ph of diluted nutrients in the water is around pH6.1 .. its tinted slightly blue.. here is some photos of it..

i'm crossing my finger that everything will go as planned.









well if you only water certain areas , then roots will only grow in those areas. if anything, you should water around the stem, so the roots reach out.

theyre not that young btw. if they're as tall and as wide as the pots, the roots (should) have already spread to every side of the pot.


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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: Maestro]
    #633848 - 08/04/12 11:44 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

No, you should thoroughly saturate the entire amount of soil.  So lets say you have 5 gallons of soil, you should be doing a minimum of 2-3 gallons of water per feeding.


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    #633866 - 08/05/12 03:03 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

damnn! i've never thought of it that way. i've always thought that if i water just 1 inch radius from the stem as i think that is where the main roots are.. okay. lessons learnt from here.

i've re-pour additional nutes around the areas that were not covered 3 days ago.. this time im being thorough with it.

1 plant seems to be coping very well with the flushing and nutes.. it turns dark green! which i hope is a good sign, event thought the leaves on the bottom are still yellow and crispy.. wish i could snap it, but im gonna do it in my next post.

any other advise in regards to this ? you've all been a great help !

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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: digitalsinz]
    #634387 - 08/10/12 03:58 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Hi again guys! I'm seeing quite a bit of improvemenet these past few days.. even though its not 'that' great..

Here are some pics taken that copes well with the flushes and the nutrients..  I was wondering is it possible that the nutrient dose is too litte ? (its 2.5grams for every litre) should i increase the dosage ? to lets say ... 3 grams for every liter ? ..

There are some pots that is showing little or not improvemenet for the works that ive done... leaves are still yellowing.. and not really looking good... pics are bellow too

I've nurtured 3 Barneys farm LSD babies.. and they are starting to turn yellow too... at such an early age! i've previously flushed with the same pH 5.1 .. and added nutrients 2 days later.. but its not coping very well i might say.. shall i increase nutrients ?


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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: digitalsinz]
    #634399 - 08/10/12 09:04 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

temps are too low durring lights off. Had that problem when my a/c timer broke; stopped turning off at "night"
the ac was working 24/7 and the top leaf sets became yellow, once i realised and replaced the timer, they started recovering (the yellow leafs actually turned back to gren).

I could be very wrong...BUT the effected leaf sets weren't just yellow, they were soft (compared to others). Feel them, and feel the top of the stems. If theyre softer then norm. it's probably your temps.


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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: Maestro]
    #634677 - 08/13/12 02:20 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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temps are too low durring lights off. Had that problem when my a/c timer broke; stopped turning off at "night"
the ac was working 24/7 and the top leaf sets became yellow, once i realised and replaced the timer, they started recovering (the yellow leafs actually turned back to gren).

I could be very wrong...BUT the effected leaf sets weren't just yellow, they were soft (compared to others). Feel them, and feel the top of the stems. If theyre softer then norm. it's probably your temps.






Hi, thanks for your reply. I've set the timer such that the air conditiong switches off too when the lights are out (to conserve engery & due to no heat from the lamp, i will have to assume that temps are low at that period) .. Timer is in perfect working condition.. as ive seen them working ...

there are a few plants that is not working.. most of them are turning back to its normal green state...

but should i up the dosage for nutrients ?

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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: digitalsinz]
    #634679 - 08/13/12 03:09 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, this has nothing to do with temps being too low. 


I'll hunt down my book tomorrow and see what the hell is going on.


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    #634687 - 08/13/12 10:05 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

That soil looks a bit wet in each case... Do you let it dry completely to let it breathe between watering?



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    #636148 - 09/01/12 06:10 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Hello guys,
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That soil looks a bit wet in each case... Do you let it dry completely to let it breathe between watering?







Yes, I usually every other day (2 days period between watering) ... and my pot have holes in it that allows excess water to seep through.. which i dont think will the problem .

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    #636266 - 09/02/12 02:18 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Hello guys,
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That soil looks a bit wet in each case... Do you let it dry completely to let it breathe between watering?







Yes, I usually every other day (2 days period between watering) ... and my pot have holes in it that allows excess water to seep through.. which i dont think will the problem .




Well, if you google search for overwatering symptoms you will find that the leaves bow in a similar manner yours do. I guess you have a slight overwatering situation. I'm just troubleshooting. But, after thinking twice, you are probably right, it's not the main problem...

Hawk is right, it looks like the plant is sucking the nitrogen out of her lower parts to feed the higher parts... Do you have a grow shop that sells hydroponic fertilizers? Because if you are using soilless mix (peat/coco/hydroton/perlite/verm), your plant should be really hungry and you might need a fertilizer where all the ingredients are ready available. REmember you're not growing on organic soil where the nutrients get broken down by benefitial microbes. Organic fertilizer takes longer until it reaches the plant.


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    #636371 - 09/03/12 07:05 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Guys. i  encounter another problem.. what is wrong with  the photos ? is this becaue of lack of Potassion ? because judging from the marijuana problems guide,  this DEFINITELY looks like lack of potassium... should i switch to 10-55-10 now ? or should i stick to 20-20-20 ?


Please advise !






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    #636378 - 09/03/12 11:34 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

My guess is you're in nutrient lock out.  Flush with plain water.  The nutrients you're giving them are super concentrated.  So it wouldn't be hard to overfert the shit out of em and make the plant unable to take in any nutrients. 


I would highly recommend ordering some different nutrients from online.


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