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 harekrishna
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 LED light advice/thoughts/hints 
#602485 - 12/22/11 12:02 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've tried searching the internet and the forum but cannot seem to be able to find any information on the use of LED lights and their implications compared to traditional lighting system/phases.
Thoughts, links, information?
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Dimo114
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: harekrishna]
#602486 - 12/22/11 12:18 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Really now? Tried searching the internet?
Links:
Growery.com
Google.com
No offence..
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harekrishna
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: Dimo114]
#602489 - 12/22/11 01:34 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dimo114 said:
Really now? Tried searching the internet?
Links:
Growery.com
Google.com
No offence..
Dimo114 said:
Really now? Tried searching the internet?
Links:
Growery.com
Google.com
No offence..
Dimo114 said:
Really now? Tried searching the internet?
Links:
Growery.com
Google.com
No offence..
No offense taken from a smart ass like yourself.
Furthermore, I only opened this discussion with the sole intention of discussing the topic rather than being told to go back and search. What the hell kind of crap is that?
If you couldn't respond by anything more useful than that, why respond at all?
Specifically written as is: "but cannot seem to be able to find any information on the use of LED lights and their implications compared to traditional lighting system/phases."
Hello, wake up, lets do a little thinking before we're quick to being a cocky cool guy.
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 Stoneth
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: harekrishna]
#602498 - 12/22/11 03:04 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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LEDs are a touchy topic.
Some units work well, and others aren't worth the material they're made out of.
Do you have a unit in mind?
I've tested many different LED units over the past two years or so.
I still find that the 6 band units with 3 watt or greater chips work the best.
Most LED companies lie about the square footage of coverage as well.
You should read carefully before ordering because some LEDs are made for different phases of growth such as veg and flower, tho in most cases the flowering units veg well.
LEDs still have a ways to go, before they are perfect, but they are coming along quickly these days. Tho prices are still high as fuck.
I'll try to answer any questions you have, tho I admit I don't know every thing.
Also would like to point out the related threads, just below the quick reply box, near the bottom of the page.
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Dimo114
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: harekrishna]
#602588 - 12/23/11 03:55 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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harekrishna said:
I've tried searching the internet and the forum but cannot seem to be able to find any information on the use of LED lights and their implications compared to traditional lighting system/phases.
Thoughts, links, information?
"I opened this topic with the sole intention of discussing a topic..."
Lieing again, you opened it because you "couldn't find" info on LED lighting.
By going to google.com and searching the title of this thread, u found 4 great, reliable sourses that will each answer your questions.
"If you couldnt respond w/ anything usefull why respond at all?"
1I feel like it
2my answer was helpfull
3im a troll who has no life
Thanks for the complements (smartass, cocky cool guy).
Stop lieing. Start reading.
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phrostbyte
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: Dimo114]
#602612 - 12/23/11 09:49 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I use the 90w ufo from htg supply with the 2 w lights. Works awesome for veg. Haven't used them for flower though.
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samson
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: phrostbyte]
#603703 - 01/02/12 07:16 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just bought a LED from hydro grow- seems to be the daddy of LED's from the reviews and testimonials that i have read... It was really expensive, but hopefully worth the cost in production and power savings. I will certainly update you as soon as it gets into action...
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phrostbyte
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: samson]
#603736 - 01/03/12 03:44 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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YOU SERIOUSLY SPENT 1000.00 OR MORE ON AN LED?! really hope it works well for you!
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HempMaster
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: phrostbyte]
#603743 - 01/03/12 07:17 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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From the research i have done on leds lately this is the only name brand that has gotten consistently great reviews across the board...ofcourse its also one of the most expensive....
LumiGrow
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samson
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: HempMaster]
#603793 - 01/03/12 06:19 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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heck yeah i did- and if it works like its supposed to I'll buy 2 more in the next 4 months. If the power savings claims are accurate as well as the yield claims- the only decent reason i can think of NOT to buy one is if you don't have the money to buy one up front. As it stands, my 600w HPS's have been producing enough to cover every expense i have had in my grows, plus a good amount of upgrades- and if the LEDs from this company are even close to what I've read, they will pay themselves off rather quickly. That and no more living in fear of my house burning down with my dogs in it while Im at work is exactly the kind of peace of mind thats worth it to me to buy them- I hope they work really well too. I'll certainly let you guys know how they work as this crop progresses.
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Edited by samson (01/03/12 06:21 PM)
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phrostbyte
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: samson]
#603835 - 01/03/12 11:45 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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samson said:
heck yeah i did- and if it works like its supposed to I'll buy 2 more in the next 4 months. If the power savings claims are accurate as well as the yield claims- the only decent reason i can think of NOT to buy one is if you don't have the money to buy one up front. As it stands, my 600w HPS's have been producing enough to cover every expense i have had in my grows, plus a good amount of upgrades- and if the LEDs from this company are even close to what I've read, they will pay themselves off rather quickly. That and no more living in fear of my house burning down with my dogs in it while Im at work is exactly the kind of peace of mind thats worth it to me to buy them- I hope they work really well too. I'll certainly let you guys know how they work as this crop progresses.
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I can understand about the fire hazard and the power savings... I didn't notice a huge increase in power usage when I went to HID but I only have 1 400w. I also worry about fires which keeps me home alot.
led's are great but they don't cover that large of an area... also the lights last forever, but the fans and other parts die before the LED's themselves. Hope you got a warranty on them for that price. Hope they work well for you also! Some that have been claimed to be the shit are garbage. Make sure you keep a grow log cause I and Im sure alot of others would like to see what happens
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samson
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: phrostbyte]
#603914 - 01/04/12 05:21 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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3 year warrantee/90 day money back guarantee with a restocking fee. sounds really strong for the grow light industry
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samson
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: samson]
#605614 - 01/17/12 11:04 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Light came in today- I will post some pictures as this crop progresses
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budnectar
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: harekrishna]
#605742 - 01/18/12 05:09 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I did some research on LED's while I'm in the process for saving for some. I got good info from links off High Times and some info from reddit trees that substantiated that good info. I can't remember any specific brands off top but I've heard ufo's are very efficient for veg but you may have to tinker around a bit to get a good ratio of wavelengths for flower.
Share your reviews/experience with us!
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samson
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: budnectar]
#605747 - 01/18/12 05:41 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good- I am glad to hear that someone has gotten some positive information. I have spoken with HydroGrowLED several times, and they say that they developed their spectrums specifically for cannabis and they of course say that these lights should flower very well. I suppose they have to say that, but in all honesty if they don't work for flowering, i am going to send them back anyway because they have a 90 day money back guarantee.. So if they are lying, they are going to get their lights back. Ill be starting flowering in the next week or 2 so i will keep you guys apprised of the progress. Hope all is well everyone
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Mystiquemushroom
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: samson]
#605753 - 01/18/12 06:31 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I plan on using a 100w led with mixed spectrum, for vegging im gonna add some 6500k cfls and then add some 2700k cfls for flowering.
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phrostbyte
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been using my 90w ufo for veg for months... THing works awesome and puts out very very little heat. Love it!
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samson
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: phrostbyte] 1
#611218 - 03/01/12 10:05 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hi folks! i hope everyone is doing really well!
I am under 3 weeks from harvesting my first plants using the Hydrogrow LED 336x-pro, and i will not be sending it back. The buds it has produced are large, dense, and look and smell terrific- with more than 2 weeks left until harvest. I can't with any accuracy say exactly the difference i am getting from my 600w hps's because there was a major change in my nutrient usage as well this harvest... But i can safely say that the 336x-pro (albeit VERY expensive) will most certainly produce large, dense buds. I can't wait to harvest these ladies. I will post some pictures when i get this all together. i have been taking pictures since day 1 so ill share them asap. hope all is well
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: samson] 3
#611219 - 03/01/12 10:08 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Get those pictures up 
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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samson
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ok so i never claimed to be a computer wiz either- how come i can't post pictures here? wrong format? I'm confused..
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CorrosiveLiquid
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: samson]
#612654 - 03/14/12 01:31 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Im currently building my own LED grow box. Its still in the infant stage but coming along nicely. paid around $0.80 per 1w LED already soldered to a pcb board. I also got lenses for the LEDs because the angle of the led beam was about 140, I got 30deg angle lenses to focus the light. I have roughly 200 of them going to be going into the box. the power supplies are going to cost me around $65 for 200w of power, currently we are powering it with ATX power supply out of a computer. other materials we are using are cheap, actually had they laying around also. 1' wide roll of flashing to mount the LEDs and cheap 1/4'' particle board type stuff to mount the strips to. The box is 2x2x5 currently but like i said this is the early stages.
Ive got about $300 into the project right now but there are many plus sides to the LED lights. No heat means my plant can literally grow against the light and not burn. These LEDs are the correct spectrum (nm) needed for plant development (blue/red), i added about 20 white into the mix for any other wavelengths and about 10 green. I read that green inhances white better than just 30 white alone + the green can be turned on at night so you can work in the dark and not mess up the light schedule.
DIY LED grow lights are the way to go. They have a life span of 10-15 years per LED, remember I only paid roughly a $1 for. There is a learning curve and much research to be done but when this box is done it will be EXACTLY what the plant needs for optimal growth and no more, no less.
EDIT: ill let you know how it goes, was the whole point of me posting here. New to growery, been a shroomery member for awhile now.
  
Edited by CorrosiveLiquid (03/14/12 01:36 AM)
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kathy0000
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: harekrishna]
#612674 - 03/14/12 06:33 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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harekrishna said:
I've tried searching the internet and the forum but cannot seem to be able to find any information on the use of LED lights and their implications compared to traditional lighting system/phases.
Thoughts, links, information?
LED Lights have many advantages over tradition lighting.
LED grow lights are very efficient, and a higher percentage of the light emitted is consumed by plants.
LED grow lights can help gardeners save on their electricity bills, and not waste energy.
Plants will also need less watering because of the lower temperatures in the grow room.
LED grow lights produce zero noise, compared to the buzzing sounds made by other lighting systems.
The benefits of low energy consumption, low maintenance costs, and heat-free operation of LED grow lights are making them favored by more and more gardeners.
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: kathy0000]
#612675 - 03/14/12 06:46 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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LEDS aren't heat free.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: kathy0000]
#612681 - 03/14/12 09:58 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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kathy0000 said:
LED grow lights are very efficient, and a higher percentage of the light emitted is consumed by plants.
I'd like you to cite your source on that one, please.
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samson
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#612732 - 03/14/12 10:01 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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OK so i may be a stoned buffoon- my camera takes jpeg files which this site doesn't accept. Id be happy to post pictures if there is a reasonably easy way to convert them to an acceptable format=) any easy solution?
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Stoneth
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: samson]
#612738 - 03/14/12 10:32 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Upload to a online host.
I know photobucket links work here.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: samson]
#612753 - 03/15/12 12:41 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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This site DEFINITELY takes .jpg files. Click on the "pics" link in the top left, and then "upload"
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CorrosiveLiquid
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: Harry_Ba11sach] 1
#612879 - 03/16/12 12:16 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
kathy0000 said:
LED grow lights are very efficient, and a higher percentage of the light emitted is consumed by plants.
I'd like you to cite your source on that one, please.
as you requested....
http://www.hcs.ohio-state.edu/hcs300/photosyn.htm
http://www.emc.maricopa.edu/faculty/farabee/biobk/biobookps.html
I know these are right, I go to college for horticulture.
"The color of the pigment comes from the wavelengths of light reflected"
What color are the leaves of your plants? green/yellow
That means blues reds oranges are absorbed and used for photosynthesis.
more info
http://www.ehow.com/how-does_5185470_color-light-effect-plant-growth_.html
there is an exact science to what percentages of NM need to be used to get the best results while producing a healthy plant. You can choose what NM is used in your LED light, you cannot do this with HPS/MH. you can get in the right ball park but you are still using watts to push out that green/yellow which is a large percentage of what light is coming from them.
There is no heat coming from my 1w LEDs pushed at their peak performance. There is a TON of heat coming from my HPS which is wasted energy.
one last link
http://www.ecofitlighting.com/hid-vs-led.html
EDIT: Recap for those too lazy or stubborn to read the information...
LED lights make it possible to:
1.Focus full potential of light without reflectors which degrade the light.
2. Use correct % of spectrum (nm) of light that plants use for photosynthesis.
3. No heat which means no temp problems and no burning even when plants are touching the lens.
Edited by CorrosiveLiquid (03/16/12 12:32 AM)
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CorrosiveLiquid
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no more replies? or is this site just way slow compared to shroomery?
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Stoneth
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No heat which means no temp problems and no burning even when plants are touching the lens.
This truly depends on the unit itself.
I've seen a many of sunburn plants under LED, granted this isn't really heat related, but does happen with high powered chip sets.
And yes it's a bit slower here thna the shroomery, we don't have their member count yet.
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CorrosiveLiquid
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Re: LED light advice/thoughts/hints [Re: Stoneth]
#613034 - 03/17/12 02:48 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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http://www.wayjun.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=21&products_id=682
those are what I am currently using, no the LEDs do not make enough heat to burn plants through the lens. they are roughly .5'' thick and the LED sits on the back of it.
Edit: Just look at what you said again. Im using 1w LEDs. What are the symptoms you are talking about "sunburn"
Edited by CorrosiveLiquid (03/17/12 02:51 PM)
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