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mother showing more than preflower. help
    #580693 - 08/24/11 05:48 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)


(jack h clone from seed mother. most vigorous clone from batch taken from mature seedplanted mother)

and i really want to keep her around

obviously i have clones from her, they are still very young, not even veg yet.

but if i move her to flower, i will have a pretty significant gap where i will not have the ability to clone this strain.

im sorry the pictures are shitty, no camera besides my phone atm. the pictures are kind of an illusion
they make it seem like preflower
but looking at the plant, i can tell its going into flower. whether due to age, or?(not photoperiod, i can guarantee)

im wondering if its going to take more time to MAKE SURE SHE CONTINUES VEGGING, and continue to take clones (with the obvious time gap coming from the amount of time it will take the clones to revert to vegetative growth)
or if it would take more time if i forget about her as a mom, and flower her, and raise her strongest clone up and turn to the new mother?

which is going to be most effective (time, quality of product,energy(more physical, than electrical :lol: ) that kinda stuff


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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: just me]
    #580698 - 08/24/11 06:08 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Make a new mother. Lot less time.

From that you can do as many mothers as you want.


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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: KaptKid]
    #580707 - 08/24/11 06:43 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

ok. :grin:

one of her original clones was going to be a mother anyway

so go ahead and flower jh mom #1?

im just trying to minimize that gap of time not having j.h. for a mother :shocked:

thanks for the help.

does this factor in at all

she and 3 other strain mothers are all on 24 hours of light
if shes trying to flower, its genetically related right? and cant be due to photoperiod.
-is it a vegging plant that is attempting to flower
-or a flowering plant that is in veg conditions?

you know what i mean? like what hormones she got going on at this point?


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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: just me]
    #580725 - 08/24/11 07:59 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Check if the plant is root bound. I've grown J.H. more times then I can count and if she gets root bound she tends to start flowering. There are several strains like this one of the best that is known for it is Mikado. Like Mikado J.H. tends to do it, not in every case but often enough.

By the way you can clone flowering plants they root just as fast but it takes a little longer to get them vegging cause they have to revert growth. :happyweed:


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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: Magash]
    #580740 - 08/24/11 08:53 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

shes not root bound, but shes ready for a transplant

sucks i gotta use huge pots for a mom

Magash, there was no fluctuation in photoperiod

not even since she started "flowering",
has she been out of 24hr light

so there has to be some mixed signals going on in her right now, yes?

if it were up to you, would you continue her as the mother, (because of reasons you select her in the first place) and put her in a bigger pot. and not worry too much about her little hiccup

or would it be best to flower her now that shes sort of started

i understand that one of the up and coming clones from her previous prunings/clonings will make a suitable mother

but if i can keep my JH mom with my other Moms and them all be relatively equal in most ways, then i like that better :grin:

i also wonder, the period of time it takes for this "hiccup" to be over and all her hormones be back to veg...
or is it too late:lol:

round and round

i want to keep her and im kinda out of room fo flower


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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: just me]
    #580742 - 08/24/11 08:58 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

also, Magash, im sure you know, but anyone else who knows,

any good sites, or really informative info online on strains.

wait a minute! growery might have this info.

i remember a friend showing me a site that basically we could pull up any strain thru history, and present. read about the high, it had a rating, strain dominance, flowering time, etc etc


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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: Magash]
    #580754 - 08/24/11 10:16 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

I may have to try this reveg sometime just to ck it out.


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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: KaptKid]
    #580792 - 08/24/11 11:54 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

ive revegged plenty
but im getting more dialed with
selective genetics, etc
and for once id like to not freak my ladies :lol:


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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: just me]
    #580819 - 08/25/11 05:49 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.strainguide.org/faq


Scroll down to the list of seed company names, it's the old Overgrow strain guide.


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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: Magash]
    #580842 - 08/25/11 10:44 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks!

hey, i recently asked the question about topping once
12 hour photoperiod is initiated

and the reply was its a no no

im reading thru Cervanted book, and he is very opposed to pruning/descrowling a plant

im still in my diapers of indoor growing, but outdoor, i like to remove much of the junk. and ive done this countless times thru flowering cycle, with no noticable adverse effects.

im wondering tho, how my indoor would respond, if i went out and removed the lower unnecessary branches, flowerheads, and leafs.

any thoughts on this?


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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: just me]
    #580847 - 08/25/11 11:33 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

If its yellowing I remove it but other wise leave it.
All that plant material can be use to make hash oil and I have found the popcorn buds can be very potent.


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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: KaptKid]
    #580859 - 08/25/11 01:08 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

true

im just wondering how much it takes away from my main flowering sites

i did not do this before putting them into the room

theyre not seedlings tho, so its not SO much unnecessary foliage and branching, minimal, but seems enough to share vital nutrients with the main heads.

and shared means dispersed right?


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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: just me]
    #580862 - 08/25/11 01:32 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Someone  with more experience will have to answer that.

Its a good question. Will it help the buds be larger?

Also another question that goes right along with this,
Would this help air flow enough to prevent mold?


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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: KaptKid]
    #581019 - 08/26/11 01:30 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

i ALWAYS ALWAYS prune my plants

take the unwanted crap from the bottom for circulation, and for better nutrient, and growth displacement
helps prevent molds, and fungus in and around the soil
etc

but its usually a life long process for the plant.
these particular set of clone, i left alone for quite awhile to strengthen them up

about 2 weeks before i put them into flower, i pulled clones off all them. but only enough to fill a box, which meant there was a lot of lower scrag branch remaining.

this never got removed, and the plants were put into flowering as such

EVERY time i go say hi to the girls, i want to pick, and poke, etc etc
but im actually taking professional advice this time, and gonna try the way Cervantes claims to be the best, and see what i feel about that.

the closet it getting gorgeous. im too noid bout the girls to post up pics, but maybe ill figure somethin out


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