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 FRACTALife
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 Peyote in Canada 
#556751 - 05/19/11 03:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I am going to Stratford to see Jesus Christ Super Star for Father's Day with the family.
Peyote is legal in Canada, and is sold in head shops I am told, which is very cool.
I was wondering from those with experience how readily available and easy is it to find somewhere to buy peyote in Canada.
It's not endangering the cacti because they grow lots of it and don't steal it from the earth.
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Re: Peyote in Canada [Re: FRACTALife]
#556755 - 05/19/11 03:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Woah peyote buttons are legal in Canada........ learn something new every day.
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Shaggy420
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i have to be honest, i thought they were legal pretty much everywhere excpet the states 
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FRACTALife
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Quote:
Steve Buscemi said:
Woah peyote buttons are legal in Canada........ learn something new every day.
Peyote is totally legal in Canada to grow, buy, sell, and eat.
Pure mescaline is illegal, but eating peyote for any reason is 100% legal.
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Re: Peyote in Canada [Re: FRACTALife]
#556760 - 05/19/11 03:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
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http://tinyurl.com/5ucwkjg
But then he wouldn't get to brag to everyone that he was going to watch Jesus Christ Super Star
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I was asking about personal experiences, google doesn't yield many specific results.
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Re: Peyote in Canada [Re: FRACTALife]
#556786 - 05/19/11 05:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well in Québec, I have never seen any peyote in any shops, and believe me... I tried so hard to find some, never happened ... The only thing I was able to find was mescalin, but it wasn't legal at all, good luck finding some, I hope you will be luckier than me!
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Re: Peyote in Canada [Re: Manitou]
#556811 - 05/19/11 06:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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im almost positive it is illegal to sell dried buttons. i have a friend who has a huge private garden who sent another friend of mine back to the states with a small sample i got to try.
you might be lucky and find a nursery that sells them, but its really kept on the dl because they dont want people abusng it.
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Re: Peyote in Canada [Re: RasJeph]
#556820 - 05/19/11 07:04 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well to be honest, I always thought peyote was illegal in Canada, except for religion uses (native Americans shamanism)
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Re: Peyote in Canada [Re: Manitou]
#556831 - 05/19/11 07:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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nah, if youve ever looked into buying peyote seeds online, a lot of the suppliers are canadian.
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Re: Peyote in Canada [Re: RasJeph]
#556834 - 05/19/11 07:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Damn peyote take so long to grow, i would feel bad eating one.
Respect that catus before you ingest it.
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Re: Peyote in Canada [Re: iStoner]
#556845 - 05/19/11 08:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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mushrooms take 2 months to grow you dont respect them  
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Re: Peyote in Canada [Re: Harlz]
#556847 - 05/19/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wildn's grow overnight.
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hey crab dank! 
and indeed they do , overnight they do
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Re: Peyote in Canada [Re: Harlz]
#556853 - 05/19/11 08:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hows it hangin harlziedavidson?
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Re: Peyote in Canada [Re: Harlz]
#556854 - 05/19/11 09:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
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mushrooms take 2 months to grow you dont respect them
it's just a different level of respect. Many many drugs should be respected, some just more than others. 
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Re: Peyote in Canada [Re: iStoner]
#556875 - 05/19/11 09:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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high as fuck 
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Re: Peyote in Canada [Re: Harlz]
#556879 - 05/19/11 09:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would neverdo Datura, haha. Peyote sounds kinda fun though.
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Eesh no way would I try Datura either. Ugh. Lol, try shrooms before you do peyote fractal.
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In Canada, phencyclidine, its salts, derivatives and analogues and salts of derivatives and analogues are governed by the provisions of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act applicable to Schedule I. Unlawful possession is a criminal offence punishable on indictment by imprisonment for up to seven years and on summary conviction for a first offence to a fine of up to $1,000 or imprisonment for up to six months, or both. A subsequent offence is punishable on summary conviction by a fine of up to $2,000 or imprisonment for up to one year, or both. Trafficking, possession for the purpose of trafficking, possession for the purpose of exporting, production, import and export are indictable offences punishable by up to life imprisonment. (Peyote is not covered by this Schedule.)
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Since the 1970s peyote has been exempt from any legal penalties.
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Eesh no way would I try Datura either. Ugh. Lol, try shrooms before you do peyote fractal.
I've done mushrooms quite a few times. Look at my journal for trip reports.
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Re: Peyote in Canada [Re: FRACTALife]
#556895 - 05/19/11 10:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh I forgot. My bad.
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i was thinking about doing an extraction this summer, before burning man. Was going to use some san pedro cacti. Peyote would be cool as shit, but is obviously hard to find.
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Re: Peyote in Canada [Re: FRACTALife]
#556988 - 05/20/11 03:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Jesus Christ Superstar sucks though why waste an awesome trip on that?
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Re: Peyote in Canada [Re: Tangerines]
#557005 - 05/20/11 05:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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He'll prob end up watching it sober 
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tripping while with my parents is one of the last places in the world i would want to trip. i could see that being real bad real early into it.
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Quote:
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tripping while with my parents is one of the last places in the world i would want to trip. i could see that being real bad real early into it.
This happened to me unintentionally.
About 5 years ago I ate a few hits of acid with my friends and an hour or so later I received a call from my mom insisting I help her with something at home.
I began freaking out, I did not want to see her or talk to her at all. I was trippin' ballz, man. But, I had to get over it.
I ended up spending the remainder of my trip with her and my sister, just talking about thangs and whatnot. Surprisingly, it ended up being one of the best trips I've had lol.
There were awkward moments (maybe just in my head) but it was a pretty fun time overall. She never noticed anything weird.
Anyway, my experience wasn't bad; I wouldn't like to go through that again though 
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Re: Peyote in Canada [Re: CandyGirl]
#557020 - 05/20/11 07:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wouldn't have answered that phone call. 
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Haha, yeah. I like to turn my phone off when I trip.
I did have to answer then though, since I was still living with her.
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Re: Peyote in Canada [Re: CandyGirl]
#557031 - 05/20/11 08:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Word. Phones/clocks should bear no importance whilst tripping.
When I DID leave my phone on though, I would just text whomever called that "I'm in space," and they usually get the point.
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I've tripped with my family before.
Never with my parents for long amounts of time though.
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Re: Peyote in Canada [Re: FRACTALife]
#591084 - 10/07/11 06:39 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Legal status of Peyote in Canada
"17. Mescaline (3,4,5--trimethoxybenzeneethanamine), but not peyote (lophophora)"
Mescaline is a controlled substance. It is rather unknown in Canada that Peyote is specifically exempt from Canadian controlled substance laws. What was the reason behind this? And is prepared peyote illegal? I will answer these below.
Back in the 1961, when Canada was putting the Narcotic Control Act in place, the bill had begun being publicized, and the native’s of some Indian tribes and communities complained to the government. For decades and perhaps centuries, these native tribes in Canada have imported peyote from Mexico for spiritual use. The government, under Sir John Diefenbaker’s leadership (progressive conservative), surprisingly sympathetically exempted peyote specifically from Canadian law. They did this, without exempting for specific church or organizational use, because they realized if they had done that for peyote, then they would have been obligated to do so for other drugs such as marijuana, which they were not up for doing.
In 1996 when passing the Canada Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, the government maintained this exemption, keeping peyote legal for the same reasons as the 1961 government had pointed out.
So what does this all mean?
In Canada, peyote is specifically exempt, because it was consumed. However with its main active constituent being mescaline, problems with dried peyote material could arise. Essentially, if one were to prove that the dry material being sold, whether for consumption or not, were to be Peyote, then they would be exempt from any charges.
What are some ways to prove that it is peyote?
A main start would be to keep the dried peyote in pieces that show distinct characteristics of the peyote plant. This could be done by slicing the peyote in pieces, from top to bottom, because the peyote cactus is easily distinguishable due to its relatively small size. If you were to look at fresh peyote, and then look at the dried peyote, and see that it’s quite similar, only different colours (due to the lack of moisture)
If the dried peyote were in powdered form, then the only way to distinguish it, would be to scientifically analyze all the powder and compare all of the chemicals found in it with the chemicals normally found in peyote. This would be more expensive, however an effective way in proving your case.
Obviously if the powdered material was just mescaline and cactus tissue then it would be considered illegal, because it is not peyote, peyote isn’t just mescaline and tissue. It has 50+ other chemicals.
So conclusively, peyote in all forms is considered legal if you can prove that the form of peyote you have prepared or not is or was at one point peyote.
This was taken from Legal Status of Peyote in Canada
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