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    #60354 - 06/18/08 09:27 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

i happened to come across a few peyote buttons

i paid a rediculous price of 20 a button but i was very curious

but all i felt off of about 7 grams was a weird body trip but i was able to think perfectly clearly and i got no visuals.

i was wondering how many grams people take to get a full on crazy mescaline trip??


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Re: peyote [Re: sittingbull137]
    #60357 - 06/18/08 09:30 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

$20 per button?

Damn, that's pricey! :eek:


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Re: peyote [Re: andyistic]
    #60358 - 06/18/08 09:33 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yeah the guy i got it from is an idiot and he got ripped off and but i just traded some bud for it


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Re: peyote [Re: sittingbull137]
    #60359 - 06/18/08 09:33 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

mescaline, in its powder form, is taken in milligrams, not grams.


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Re: peyote [Re: Picklez]
    #60361 - 06/18/08 09:34 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

he's talking about peyote, mescaline is in peyote yes, but so are other actives. peyote is supposed to be a different experience than just mescaline.

you wouldn't extract the mescaline from peyote, it'd be a waste of peyote.


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Re: peyote [Re: sittingbull137]
    #60362 - 06/18/08 09:34 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

damn

that's weak peyote

7 grams and that, huh?


here's something interesting, the strongest san pedro cactus was recorded as having twice the mescaline as a normal dose of peyote cactus, the strongest peyote cactus recorded had twice this.

potency variates


but geez... peyote takes a long ass fucking time to grow, how weak could it be? i mean, it's supposed to have a decade to sit in the sun and build up alkaloids

you sure you didn't get ripped off?

i was sold some ground up cactus capsules once, opened em and drank it in a bottle of water. was definately cactus, tasted like that cardboard cactus taste, didn't do a damn thing:shrug:


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Re: peyote [Re: Picklez]
    #60363 - 06/18/08 09:34 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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mescaline, in its powder form, is taken in milligrams, not grams. [/quote

well i got it in dried buttons and the 2 buttons weighed out to around 7 grams


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Re: peyote [Re: usg543]
    #60365 - 06/18/08 09:37 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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he's talking about peyote, mescaline is in peyote yes, but so are other actives. peyote is supposed to be a different experience than just mescaline.

you wouldn't extract the mescaline from peyote, it'd be a waste of peyote.




I probably would. I have tried cactus tea brews before and will not do that again. Other than that, I dont know any other methods of ingestion.

I would much rather make mescaline sulfate or whatever acid you want to use and do pure mescaline.


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Re: peyote [Re: sittingbull137]
    #60366 - 06/18/08 09:37 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

i am positive they were real buttons i picked out the white cotton shit myself


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Re: peyote [Re: sittingbull137]
    #60368 - 06/18/08 09:38 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

how did you prepare your dose? did you just straight start eating the cactus or something?


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Re: peyote [Re: sittingbull137]
    #60369 - 06/18/08 09:40 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yeah... never taken peyote

i'd imagine the weight of the cactus obviously adds to the weight of the mescaline;)



would you like some cactus with that mescaline is the story i'll bet you wish you were telling
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Re: peyote [Re: sittingbull137]
    #60371 - 06/18/08 09:40 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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At the begining, right when it touches my mouth, I immedeately start to feel different. I don't eat all 24-26 buttons at once, I I start out with about 2 fresh buttons that I chewed, they were cleaned (the Fuzz or Hairs were removed), then right after I ate about 4 teaspoonfuls of very dry finely grounded powder, then came the mush about another 4 teaspoonfuls, then throughout the night they will pass the peyote around and I came up with about 24-26 buttons but probably more like 30-34 buttons. This is a very high dosage, I eat this plant quite often just about 2 times per month for the past 10 years sometimes I eat it every weekend for months straight.


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At $20 a button you might as well open a lab to manufacture your own LSD.

P.S. you can buy powdered cactus skin (skin has the most alkaloids is what im told) from legal psychoactive cacti on Ebay for good prices and turn it into a good tea (i would say that would wreck $20 a button). You can also buy all the right plant materials to make good DMT (legal to have plant material, making the tea is not). DMT is completely different buy im throwing it out there.


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Re: peyote [Re: Picklez]
    #60373 - 06/18/08 09:43 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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he's talking about peyote, mescaline is in peyote yes, but so are other actives. peyote is supposed to be a different experience than just mescaline.

you wouldn't extract the mescaline from peyote, it'd be a waste of peyote.




I probably would. I have tried cactus tea brews before and will not do that again. Other than that, I dont know any other methods of ingestion.

I would much rather make mescaline sulfate or whatever acid you want to use and do pure mescaline.





well, that would be retarded. like i just said: you would be wasting the peyote.

you can extract mescaline from san pedro and others, no need to waste peyote.


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Re: peyote [Re: oxalic32]
    #60374 - 06/18/08 09:44 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

god damn......lol

24 buttons?

i thought one was threshold

2 or 3 buttons was an ass tripping you wouldn't forget?

i don't know.... i guess really small ones would have buttons the size of your fingernail, if you cut those then yeah you could probly eat 24


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    #60375 - 06/18/08 09:44 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

That is a waste of peyote...

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It has been noted that the peyote experience is quantitatively somewhat different than that of pure mescaline, the former being more physical than the latter. This is due to several of the other alkaloids present in the cactus. These include: HORDENINE, N-METHYLMESCALINE, N-ACETYLMESCALINE, PELLOTINE, ANHALININE, ANHALONINE, ANHALIDNINE, ANHALONIDINE, ANHALAMINE, O-METHYLANHALONIDINE, TYRAMINE, and LOPHOPHORINE. Not all of these substances have psychopharmacological activity when administered singly. Some of them in combination apparently potentiate the effects of the mescaline and definitely alter some of the characteristics of the experience.


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If you want pure mescaline order a bunch of legal cacti. Don't go about finding an illegal cactus than waste all of its alkaloids...


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Re: peyote [Re: oxalic32]
    #60376 - 06/18/08 09:44 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

buying dried cactus or powdered cactus is illegal. so be careful. this is why they do not allow it to be traded on shroomery marketplace.


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    #60377 - 06/18/08 09:45 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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That is a waste of peyote...

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It has been noted that the peyote experience is quantitatively somewhat different than that of pure mescaline, the former being more physical than the latter. This is due to several of the other alkaloids present in the cactus. These include: HORDENINE, N-METHYLMESCALINE, N-ACETYLMESCALINE, PELLOTINE, ANHALININE, ANHALONINE, ANHALIDNINE, ANHALONIDINE, ANHALAMINE, O-METHYLANHALONIDINE, TYRAMINE, and LOPHOPHORINE. Not all of these substances have psychopharmacological activity when administered singly. Some of them in combination apparently potentiate the effects of the mescaline and definitely alter some of the characteristics of the experience.


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If you want pure mescaline order a bunch of legal cacti. Don't go about finding an illegal cactus than waste all of its alkaloids...




exactly. :thumbup:


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    #60378 - 06/18/08 09:45 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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he's talking about peyote, mescaline is in peyote yes, but so are other actives. peyote is supposed to be a different experience than just mescaline.

you wouldn't extract the mescaline from peyote, it'd be a waste of peyote.




I probably would. I have tried cactus tea brews before and will not do that again. Other than that, I dont know any other methods of ingestion.

I would much rather make mescaline sulfate or whatever acid you want to use and do pure mescaline.





well, that would be retarded. like i just said: you would be wasting the peyote.

you can extract mescaline from san pedro and others, no need to waste peyote.




you wouldnt be wasting it, mescaline is the main active you are trying to get. and San Pedro, Bridgesii, and Torch all have their unique sets of alkaloids as well.

to each their own, cactus tea is the most fool tasting liquid I have ever encountered and would do an a/b all day over ever having to drink it again


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Re: peyote [Re: oxalic32]
    #60380 - 06/18/08 09:47 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

i ground up the buttons and capsulized them

and ate it

but i would only do it again if i could buy it at the most 5 button

but till then i have a few torch's and bergizzi's (i have no clue how to spell that).....so i wont complain:eek:


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    #60382 - 06/18/08 09:48 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Any cactus? I'm not talking about peyote, San Pedro or Torch. I could understand why it could be illegal in a more processed form. At any rate i know cuttings are 100% legal. I thought powdered skin was but maybe i am wrong? :confused:


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Re: peyote [Re: Picklez]
    #60386 - 06/18/08 09:49 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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KillerPicklez said:
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he's talking about peyote, mescaline is in peyote yes, but so are other actives. peyote is supposed to be a different experience than just mescaline.

you wouldn't extract the mescaline from peyote, it'd be a waste of peyote.




I probably would. I have tried cactus tea brews before and will not do that again. Other than that, I dont know any other methods of ingestion.

I would much rather make mescaline sulfate or whatever acid you want to use and do pure mescaline.





well, that would be retarded. like i just said: you would be wasting the peyote.

you can extract mescaline from san pedro and others, no need to waste peyote.




you wouldnt be wasting it, mescaline is the main active you are trying to get. and San Pedro, Bridgesii, and Torch all have their unique sets of alkaloids as well.

to each their own, cactus tea is the most fool tasting liquid I have ever encountered and would do an a/b all day over ever having to drink it again




lol

it's pretty musty

sort of like a mix of cardboard, wood, and dry leaves or something, lol

it just tastes real bland to me


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Re: peyote [Re: Iamasmoker]
    #60387 - 06/18/08 09:50 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

are you joking? Bland? its soo fucking sour and disgusting lol. Im sure we all make it differently but I just used a tad bit of lemon juice to make mine. Never ever ever again.

Mescaline tea makes Poppy tea taste delicious


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Re: peyote [Re: Picklez]
    #60388 - 06/18/08 09:50 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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you wouldnt be wasting it, mescaline is the main active you are trying to get. and San Pedro, Bridgesii, and Torch all have their unique sets of alkaloids as well.

to each their own, cactus tea is the most fool tasting liquid I have ever encountered and would do an a/b all day over ever having to drink it again





listen to what we are saying.

you would be wasting it. if you want to extract mescaline, use san pedro or peruvian torch. don't use peyote. peyote is becoming more and more rare, and is seen as sacred as some. you would be wasting the peyote, when you could easily use san pedro. use some common sense.


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    #60389 - 06/18/08 09:50 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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A method which avoids both the bitterness and the nausea is the rectal infusion. 8-16 grams of dried peyote is ground into a fine powder and boiled in a pint of water for 30 minutes. It is then strained and further boiled to reduce it's volume to one half pint.


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That can also be effective. Peyote is a cactus and the alkaloid level of any cactus is unknown until ingested. Using weights is probably better estimation than buttons due to the variation in button size. Threshold effects mean you can tell things are different, but you're not necessarily having an experience.

I wouldn't do mescaline extraction with illegal cacti. Illegal cacti are more expensive than legal alternatives and they are illegal.


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Re: peyote [Re: Picklez]
    #60391 - 06/18/08 09:52 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Make it into a jello. Then you cant taste the pieces when they are floating in the jello then sliding down your throat. If taste is that big of a deal. Or you can take it rectally or vaginally. Depends how much the taste actually bothers you...


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    #60393 - 06/18/08 09:53 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Any cactus? I'm not talking about peyote, San Pedro or Torch. I could understand why it could be illegal in a more processed form. At any rate i know cuttings are 100% legal. I thought powdered skin was but maybe i am wrong? :confused:




it's just the mescaline containing cacti

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Sellers (or anyone) who represent the cactus as a source of mescaline or sell them for their psychoactive properties (for "getting high") are at far higher risk of prosecution. Any preparation of the cactus for ingestion would likely turn the plant into a clearly scheduled (illegal) material.




i could not find where it says dried/powdered is illegal, but there is a reason they do not allow it to be traded on the shroomery marketplace.


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    #60395 - 06/18/08 09:54 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Make it into a jello. Then you cant taste the pieces when they are floating in the jello then sliding down your throat. If taste is that big of a deal. Or you can take it rectally or vaginally. Depends how much the taste actually bothers you...




or I can just do an a/b extraction and pack it into a gelcapsule. i'll stick with my method :smirk:

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    #60398 - 06/18/08 09:55 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I could see why they wouldn't allow in on the forum. Think about what that forum discusses. I see it still being sold on ebay and haven't seen a law. I think its mostly legal because not too much attention goes towards it. Also the taste deters many people from trying it.


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    #60400 - 06/18/08 09:57 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

does anyone think smoking it is a little smoother? it tastes like shit as well

but the high seems a little more head and a little less body

in fact, smoking it, i got an effect I didn't quite get ingesting it


also, what's the deal with boiling it for 30 minutes

i know mescaline is very heat resistant, but after some time SOME potency is lost to some extent, right?(not that it's an even significant potency, but who knows who wants to waste that shit)

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    #60402 - 06/18/08 09:59 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

You could, just don't die. I don't like relying on home chemistry skills. There are 100% safe alternatives that can avoid nausea. But to each his own...


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    #60408 - 06/18/08 10:06 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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does anyone think smoking it is a little smoother? it tastes like shit as well

but the high seems a little more head and a little less body

in fact, smoking it, i got an effect I didn't quite get ingesting it


also, what's the deal with boiling it for 30 minutes

i know mescaline is very heat resistant, but after some time SOME potency is lost to some extent, right?(not that it's an even significant potency, but who knows who wants to waste that shit)

anyway hit me up











how much would you have to smoke to get effects??? would you have to powder it up and smoke blunts of it?? or are we talking about san pedro now???im confused:confused:


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    #60430 - 06/18/08 10:23 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I think he is full of shit. I have never heard of people smoking mescaline but you learn something new every day.


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    #60431 - 06/18/08 10:24 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

well i guess i am going to have to grow 10 peyote cactii and wait 5-10 years but im young i can wait for my time


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Re: peyote [Re: sittingbull137]
    #60434 - 06/18/08 10:27 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Thats what I have done. I have started out with just several San Pedro for now, and hopefully when I own my own house someday I can start a more permanent cactus garden

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    #60445 - 06/18/08 10:35 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

have you ever done a san pedro brew??


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    #60506 - 06/18/08 11:17 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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I think he is full of shit. I have never heard of people smoking mescaline but you learn something new every day.




lmao it's always funny when people say i'm full of shit


your full of shit as fuck, and you don't know shit

if you've never heard of indians smoking peyote then where the fuck have you been?



yeah, dry it up and smoke it in bowls, it does take a bit, unless it's peyote it would probably only take a few good bowls

now if you took a bowl and packed some weed and mostly cactus, even if you were smoking it all day, it would hit you a lot better

i don't think it's that bad, i'd smoke a shitload of it, even if it took me all day, considering it lasts so long


some people say that it only lasts for 12-16 hours

every time i've done that shit i'm still feeling it on the third day before it's gone completely

i don't know


oh well, whatever


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Re: peyote [Re: Iamasmoker]
    #60508 - 06/18/08 11:23 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I've heard smoking it can work. I've also heard the lighter's flame can get so hot it will completely torch/ruin your mescaline. Usually its mixed with marijuana and you wind up smoking tons of bowls. You try to avoid direct flame contact.

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Smoking - Peyote will burn after it has been well dried and powdered. It is then usually smoked in combination with marijuana. It is supposed to result in a light, lovely high that sharpens vision without causing a strong trip. High heat may destroy some of the alkaloids however.


~Erowid.org

As always guys, Erowid. Its got so much info, i would check it whenever you need some information.


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    #60523 - 06/18/08 11:34 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yeah but i want to trip ballz
so i think smoking it would be a little dumb unless your bored and want to be a little bit higher but you might as well drink a few beers for quite a bit cheaper........


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    #60541 - 06/18/08 11:55 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

have fun smoking 30 bowls of cactus n00b


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    #60546 - 06/18/08 11:57 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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KillerPicklez said:
have fun smoking 30 bowls of cactus n00b




:rofl2:


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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.


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    #60560 - 06/19/08 12:09 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

or you could roll up like 5 grape phili's so you would be KIND OF tripping but if you can get it cheap enough to be smoking it then i give you props on the bad ass connection


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    #60614 - 06/19/08 12:44 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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KillerPicklez said:
have fun smoking 30 bowls of cactus n00b




thanks dog

i appreciate it, mr expert


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    #60620 - 06/19/08 12:49 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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sittingbull137 said:
or you could roll up like 5 grape phili's so you would be KIND OF tripping but if you can get it cheap enough to be smoking it then i give you props on the bad ass connection




:rofl2:


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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.


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Re: peyote [Re: still beLIEve]
    #60632 - 06/19/08 01:00 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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still beLIEve said:
Quote:

sittingbull137 said:
or you could roll up like 5 grape phili's so you would be KIND OF tripping but if you can get it cheap enough to be smoking it then i give you props on the bad ass connection




:rofl2:




:urinate:

last time i smoked only 9 bowls of the peruvian torch. when it dries up it loses a great amount of size, i didn't smoke the core, only pieces of the skin. then i made a tea out of the core

smoking 9 bowls of this stuff wasn't great but it didn't suck THAT bad.

all in all it was much better than the other trips i've had. more visual, smoother, a little deeper and more connected, more head less body which is fine, i get a strong body high off mescaline, so it's not like i'm missing out. shit, if you can smoke a fucking newport, you can smoke a bowl of this, it's just thick nasty smoke. but fuck, when your tripping who cares.



a freind of mine smoked  a shroom once. I was told you can't get high off a shroom you smoke. the shit smelled fucking nasty, but he smoked it and said it felt just as strong of a buzz as if he'd eaten it but more head less body, and he didn't care how nasty the smoke was.


personally i've smoked nasty weed, so i don't care about smoking a few mescaline skin pieces. as for being a newbe, well, what the fuck have you gotten high on? fuck, i've done a ton of shit, even pcp. does that make me a newb? who the fuck does drugs and doesn't try a hundred different methods and thinks that's for 'newbes.'


i always wanted to try some natural lsd making plant, not just for the ease of the situation, but because i like a natural high. I wonder if the precursor lysergic acids and and paspalic acids contribute to the lsd high the way precursors to mescaline and cannabinol and cannabinoids contribute to the mescaline and thc high. without all the nasty lysergic acid amides and ergotamines and such. you'd think basic lysergic acids and tryptophan compounds might enhance an acid high. who knows? maybe no one ever will


but anyway, I like trying things that are 'different'


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Re: peyote [Re: Iamasmoker]
    #60659 - 06/19/08 01:41 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

i would slow down on smoking stuff.......


but anyways has anyone ever eaten peyote buttons?


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    #60688 - 06/19/08 02:08 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

ehh.....


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