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Offlinekyuzo
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The Web Is Dead
    #461992 - 08/17/10 11:22 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Two decades after its birth, the World Wide Web is in decline, as simpler, sleeker services — think apps — are less about the searching and more about the getting. Chris Anderson explains how this new paradigm reflects the inevitable course of capitalism. And Michael Wolff explains why the new breed of media titan is forsaking the Web for more promising (and profitable) pastures.

You wake up and check your email on your bedside iPad — that’s one app. During breakfast you browse Facebook, Twitter, and The New York Times — three more apps. On the way to the office, you listen to a podcast on your smartphone. Another app. At work, you scroll through RSS feeds in a reader and have Skype and IM conversations. More apps. At the end of the day, you come home, make dinner while listening to Pandora, play some games on Xbox Live, and watch a movie on Netflix’s streaming service.

You’ve spent the day on the Internet — but not on the Web. And you are not alone.

This is not a trivial distinction. Over the past few years, one of the most important shifts in the digital world has been the move from the wide-open Web to semiclosed platforms that use the Internet for transport but not the browser for display. It’s driven primarily by the rise of the iPhone model of mobile computing, and it’s a world Google can’t crawl, one where HTML doesn’t rule. And it’s the world that consumers are increasingly choosing, not because they’re rejecting the idea of the Web but because these dedicated platforms often just work better or fit better into their lives (the screen comes to them, they don’t have to go to the screen). The fact that it’s easier for companies to make money on these platforms only cements the trend. Producers and consumers agree: The Web is not the culmination of the digital revolution.—A decade ago, the ascent of the Web browser as the center of the computing world appeared inevitable. It seemed just a matter of time before the Web replaced PC application software and reduced operating systems to a “poorly debugged set of device drivers,” as Netscape cofounder Marc Andreessen famously said. First Java, then Flash, then Ajax, then HTML5 — increasingly interactive online code — promised to put all apps in the cloud and replace the desktop with the webtop. Open, free, and out of control.

But there has always been an alternative path, one that saw the Web as a worthy tool but not the whole toolkit. In 1997, Wired published a now-infamous “Push!” cover story, which suggested that it was time to “kiss your browser goodbye.” The argument then was that “push” technologies such as PointCast and Microsoft’s Active Desktop would create a “radical future of media beyond the Web.”

“Sure, we’ll always have Web pages. We still have postcards and telegrams, don’t we? But the center of interactive media — increasingly, the center of gravity of all media — is moving to a post-HTML environment,” we promised nearly a decade and half ago. The examples of the time were a bit silly — a “3-D furry-muckers VR space” and “headlines sent to a pager” — but the point was altogether prescient: a glimpse of the machine-to-machine future that would be less about browsing and more about getting.



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http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/08/ff_webrip/all/1


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Re: The Web Is Dead [Re: kyuzo]
    #520731 - 01/29/11 03:46 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

BUMP. Why did no one ever comment on this?


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Re: The Web Is Dead [Re: iStoner]
    #520746 - 01/29/11 04:48 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

what?  You're asking why no one commented on it, but not commenting on it yourself?  This is the first I'm seeing of it.  it's more true today than it was 5 months ago.


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Re: The Web Is Dead [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #520747 - 01/29/11 04:53 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

FurrowedBrow said:
what?  You're asking why no one commented on it, but not commenting on it yourself? .



i thought someone else would have more to say than me


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OfflineDungenessDank
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Re: The Web Is Dead [Re: iStoner]
    #520749 - 01/29/11 04:59 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

I can still remember when the internet was just web pages, good times.


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Re: The Web Is Dead [Re: DungenessDank]
    #520752 - 01/29/11 05:08 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Hell I remember having Prodigy and surfing when it charged by the minute!


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Re: The Web Is Dead [Re: 81renaissance]
    #520768 - 01/29/11 06:00 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Don't feel bad man. I actually used to have one of these things and couldn't afford to really use it :lol:



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Offlinekyuzo
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Re: The Web Is Dead [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #520780 - 01/29/11 06:30 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

most people like a safe and sanitized experience


Edited by kyuzo (01/29/11 06:30 PM)


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Re: The Web Is Dead [Re: kyuzo]
    #521034 - 01/29/11 11:56 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

...reading later. tooo fucked


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Re: The Web Is Dead [Re: King Koopa]
    #521226 - 01/30/11 03:51 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

As long as there's still things you can illegally get for free on the Web the Web will live on, or at least, that's what I think.


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Re: The Web Is Dead [Re: Cage]
    #521391 - 01/30/11 11:49 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

People still shop, watch porn, go to school and a bunch of other shit on the internet that either A. there is no app for or B. isn't feasible to do on a smaller "Smart Device". I don't buy this article. :twocents:


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Re: The Web Is Dead [Re: jkell]
    #521411 - 01/31/11 12:34 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

I remember using the command line on ms dos to bring up mondey island and some other game where you shot bullets as big as you, jumped, and collected crystal.


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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.


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Re: The Web Is Dead [Re: still beLIEve]
    #521416 - 01/31/11 12:45 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

The Space Quest and So You Want to be a Hero games were my favorite.


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Re: The Web Is Dead [Re: 81renaissance]
    #521606 - 01/31/11 03:10 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

apps get boring real quick, the web.. well it get boring too but at least you have infinitely more variety than any app ever could provide, thinking about my time on the computer i only really watch/play emus/read/download/listen to stuff :shrug: not much else you can expect from a screen whether its touchable or not


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Re: The Web Is Dead [Re: auronlives69]
    #522300 - 02/02/11 11:57 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

What is the internet? How do you pronounce "@"? :lol:



Umm... I certainly needed a phone line where I lived back then. :shrug:

At least I did know what it was and was using it. It is crazy looking back at how it's grown and changed but so far not at all unlike what I imagined it would.


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Re: The Web Is Dead [Re: still beLIEve]
    #522308 - 02/02/11 12:19 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

still beLIEve said:
I remember using the command line on ms dos to bring up mondey island and some other game where you shot bullets as big as you, jumped, and collected crystal.




Crystal Caves? Def. one of my favorites man :thumbup:


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Re: The Web Is Dead [Re: RasJeph]
    #522312 - 02/02/11 12:41 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Man, I remember back when Geocities and Angel Fire were the closest thing to Facebook, and you actually had to work and get, (usually, at least semi-creative to set it up).

I also remember trolling alt.skateboard as "BucketsofChicken", I remember getting quite a bit of praise for my novel post, "The Word Fuck Seventy Times". Seems kindda weak in retrospect though.

:shrug:

Oh, and Multi-Level Marketing schemes, back when it was still possible to make a few dollars on it.


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Re: The Web Is Dead [Re: numonk]
    #522549 - 02/03/11 01:47 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

I see what has been said. But whats the point?


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