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OfflineIntegra21
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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: grod31]
    #443071 - 07/07/10 03:00 PM (9 years, 11 days ago)

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grod31 said:
how much stretch do you normally get above the screen?



My goal is usually 6-12" depending on the strain. The piss(left side)is right where I always shoot for, but the Blue Kush is currently between 12-16" which is just too much, which makes it very hard to get good light distribution to anything but the top few inches. In the end, it might hurt my yield a little on that side, but Im pretty good at working through this situation, so I dont think it will affect it to much. But the final weight will tell the story, anything less than a pound from that side means I did something wrong.


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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
    #447067 - 07/16/10 12:22 PM (9 years, 2 days ago)

Plants are doing great. The Blue Kush isnt growing as good as last time but Im going to give it some time to see if they turn around. I think it was caused by the Snow Storm Ultra. I got clones from each mom in the room sexing and so far I have 2 males, 2 females, and 2 undetermined. I am going to move the Kolossus out and continue to flower it so I can collect pollen for my first breeding experiment. If its ready in time, Im going to breed it with the Blue Kush and the Piss. And now onto the update, I hope you guys like bud porn...

Piss & Blue Kush day 41 of 12/12
Rm Temp  79F
CO2 ppm  600
RH    50%
PH  5.8-6.1
PPM 350-700
Res Temp 68-71F






























And here's the sexing clones, The Kolossus has been my most vigorous healthy plant of the 6 seeds I planted and Im really looking forward to breeding with Hi. The plant Also has excelent structure and flowered fasterthan any of the others.


I will upload the bud porn in hi-res in a little bit...


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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
    #447520 - 07/17/10 11:19 AM (9 years, 1 day ago)

Huge budporn update and not a single comment? Where is everybody?


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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
    #447607 - 07/17/10 03:26 PM (9 years, 1 day ago)

holy fucking shit man, looks amazing  :bow2:


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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: shasha]
    #447632 - 07/17/10 04:33 PM (9 years, 1 day ago)

What are your goals in breeding?  Beautiful plants btw.


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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: SmOakland]
    #447798 - 07/18/10 12:52 AM (9 years, 1 day ago)

I think silence says it best.  Beautiful pics!


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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: muse42]
    #448103 - 07/18/10 05:00 PM (9 years, 16 hours ago)

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shasha said:
holy fucking shit man, looks amazing  :bow2:



Thanks. I apreciate your complimentss and I hope I continue to impress you.
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What are your goals in breeding?  Beautiful plants btw.



Thanks bro. I am just hoping to get my foot in the door and see the breeding process and get a feel for how to do it properly. I lucked out and of the new strains I ordered during the last grow the Kolossus looks to be a male with the traits I was hoping for. It was the fastest growing and most vigorous plant of the 6 seeds started. It also rooted the fastest in the cloner. It has a stong lemon and musk sent as well and excelent branch and node structure. My main goal is to breed it with the Blue Kush since it is a clone only strain. I know when they are clone only its because the genetics are unstable, but Im just looking to improve the few weaknesses of the strain like low yields and fluffy bud structure and well as far node spacing. The Kolossus strain itself is supposed to be large dense buds that are potent and have a lemon/haze taste and smell. It is also supposed to be a fairly heavy yielder. Im hoping that at least some of these posatives will carry over to the Kush so I can grow out a new mother when the Kush mother gets old and Tired(shes already 2 years old). I will also be breeding it with the Piss, Madonna, and Killing Kush for practice and to see what I can get from it. I am also planning on storing some of the pollen for future experiments or to further enhance the new ones with pollinating the plants from these first breeding experiments with the same pollen which I believe is inbreeding? So any one with a good amounts of breeding knowledge that could chip in or give some of your tricks to successful seed production would be much appreciated. I am obviously doing my own reaserch, but an experience opinion is priceless.
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I think silence says it best.  Beautiful pics!



Thanks. Glad you like it, I know I look forward to going in and looking at them every day.


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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
    #448127 - 07/18/10 06:15 PM (9 years, 15 hours ago)

looking great man, I love the effect you get when you do a proper ScrOG.  Just a pretty carpet of buds. 

Still think you're having issues related to the snow storm?  I've only used it a couple of grows and each time I fuck around with what I give, it'd be interesting to see if it really is causing a problem within your grow.

How man ML's of snow storm do you feed with?


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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: coda]
    #448289 - 07/19/10 06:09 AM (9 years, 3 hours ago)

I put 3/4 teaspoon into a 5 gal nutrient mix. So a little less than 5ml.


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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
    #448437 - 07/19/10 04:31 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

wow a lot less then I've been using.  2.5-5 mls per gallon on this end.


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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: coda]
    #448918 - 07/20/10 03:30 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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wow a lot less then I've been using.  2.5-5 mls per gallon on this end.



Yeah, I tried to take it easy since I have never used it before and have killed entire crops trying out new things. So I made sure to low dose and the beds did seem to get frostier. I used it on the Piss and it didnt seem to mind at all, but the Kush has had abnormal growth sice the first day I put it in there. I was also only putting it in every 3rd res change just to see if I would notice a difference the day or 2 after that change, and I did. I think its just a matter of getting the right mix for the strain. But only time will tell on that. Neither of the strains have gotten any of it for the last week now, but I am planning on adding the snow storm and gravity to the next res change on the piss and keeping a close eye on it.


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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
    #448966 - 07/20/10 04:49 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Good luck, as far as I can tell I've had nothing but positive results with the snow storm.  Maybe I'll run a side by side test with my next run and see if there's a major difference.


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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: coda]
    #448971 - 07/20/10 04:55 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

uuum isnt that last pic a male?


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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: grod31]
    #449289 - 07/21/10 12:58 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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uuum isnt that last pic a male?



yes that last pic is a male. that pic is of the 6 clones iam sexing. it looks like the Madonna, KO Kush, Killing Kush, and Hericules are female and the Kolossus and Cheeseberry are males. Iwill be collecting pollen from them both, but most of the breeding will be done with the Kolossus(pictured above) because of its strains traits and out of the 6 seeds Igrew out, the Kolossus was the fastes growing, had excelent structure, had the best overall health, and its clone rooted the fastest out of all of the cuttings. I'm hoping some of these traits will carry over with the breeding. How do you guys pollinate your plants? so far a small paintbrush seems to be the most common way.


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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
    #449428 - 07/21/10 04:19 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Mouth watering as usual, awesome work. :awethumb:


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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: DieselB]
    #449584 - 07/21/10 07:27 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

the only time i pollinated a female i completely raped her buy shoving two males everywhere i could on her.i got 100's of seeds.
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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: grod31]
    #450137 - 07/22/10 07:14 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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Mouth watering as usual, awesome work. :awethumb:



Thanks bro. Im glad somebuddy likes it.
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the only time i pollinated a female i completely raped her buy shoving two males everywhere i could on her.i got 100's of seeds.
:3some:



Not what Im planning on doing, but thanks for the input. If I ever build a breeding room, Im sure thats how it'll go.


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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
    #451998 - 07/27/10 06:53 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Piss & Blue Kush Day 52 of 12/12
Rm Temp 79F
RH    55%
CO2 PPM 1450
Res Temp 68-71F
PH  5.5-6.2
PPM's 350-700

The Blue Kush

The Piss




If you didnt notice, Im starting to get a little purple on the Piss. I dont know if its from the strain or the snowstorm.The buds feel super dense, like really rock hard. I am keeping an eye on the trichs, and I expect the Piss to finish up in the next about 2 weeks. The Blue Kush is finally starting to put on the weight a little. For refrence its about 2 weeks behind the Piss. Hope you enjoyed the pics and if you have any questions, feel free to ask.


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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
    #452881 - 07/29/10 04:29 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

I did my breeding experiment yesterday. I collected pollen, which was a lot harder than I though it was going to be. I read to just hold a piece of paper inder a branch and shake it and you shoud get tons of pollen, but that wasnt the case at all. I had about 10% of the pods open, but when I shook it nothing fell. Then I read somemore and the said to wrap a bag around the branch and just let it fall and you should have a lot in a few days, but it got all moist in the bag and I didnt notice any pollen and if there was any it would have been contaminated by the moisture, so I finally just broke the main stalk and left the plant haanging over a shelf I wapped in mylar, let pollen fall on it for 2 days, and then just scrapped it into a film canister with a piece of paper. From there I got my supplies to pollinate my Blue Kush that are growing in the flower room(Brown paper bag, scissors, duct tape, pollen in film canister, and a paint brush).

I went in and made almost an envelope around the 2 branches I wanted to pollinate with the paper bag and tape...


Then I shut off all air movement in the room(1 fixed fan, 2 oscillating, and the a/c) Then I carefully opened up the film case on dipped the tim of the brush into the pollen and applied it to the pistils...

I was very careful not to make any jerky movements while handling the pollen and brush, but Im sure a coule of grains of the pollen might have gotten loose, but I wont know for sure until after the harvest. Then I carefully taped the bags shut making sure to move them as little as possible(wasnt easy, there has to be a better way)and have left them for the night. I also left all of the fans off but turned the a/c back on. I plan on leaving the buds wrapped for 2 days and then opening the "envelopes" and spraying them  down with water to ensure the pollen wont pread once opened. At that Point I will turn the fans back on.


This was my first attempt a breeding so any input, critisism, or comments would be much appreciated. I hope I did it good enough to work, but I wont know for a few more weeks. I will be sure to update about it at harvest to let you know how the ones I did turned out and if I accidentally pollinated anything else. If anyone has a better way of doing this, I would love to hear about it, It was a lot more difficult to do than I expected, Im sure a dedicated room for such things would be much better, but thats not an option right now. But it might have been easier if I wasnt royally f'ed up on hash cookies when I did it, but who knows...


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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
    #452951 - 07/29/10 08:05 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

I Don't know if this is going to do well in here but it's honestly the only way to tell you how I feel about the ways you take pride and effort in your pictures and weed :thumbup:



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