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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Inverted]
    #333939 - 12/20/09 12:01 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.rvfgardensupply.com/cgi/search.cgi?terms=Fan&category=Search+Results&boolean=AND&next=18

RVF has some wall mount fans, bit out of my price range for a little while though.


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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: dsotm]
    #333975 - 12/20/09 01:53 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Very nice.  Those are starting to look pretty close to done.  I have that same bulb.  I'm looking forward to see what it can do first hand.



Yeha, they should only have a week or 2 left.

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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: coda]
    #333984 - 12/20/09 02:03 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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coda said:


Where did you get that wall mounted fan?  I've been looking for one in that size and haven't been able to find it.



I picked up that fan at the local Menards for $15. It works very well and moves a decent amount of air, but doesn't oscillate. Here's an amazon link for the same one...
http://www.amazon.com/Honeywell-HT-904C-Tabletop-Air-Circulator-White/dp/B001R1Q2C6/ref=pd_sbs_k_2

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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
    #333991 - 12/20/09 02:21 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Awesome, that's exactly what I wanted :smile:


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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: coda]
    #333999 - 12/20/09 02:41 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

cool, I also have wallmount oscillating fans I got at walmart for $20. it is out of season there, but I found a link for it on targets website. It is a variable speed, wall mount, also for a very good price.
http://www.target.com/Holmes-Black-Blizzard-Table-Fan/dp/B001R1TQE2

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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
    #348787 - 01/16/10 05:59 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Mini Update-

On monday, the 11th, I harvested my Mango. By far, was my saddest harvest so far. The mites had eaten anything that resembled a fan leaf within the  first 4 weeks of flower. I feel this greatly effected my harvest. I also switched from the foxfarm trio back to my Technaflora set halfway through flower since even with a pump, the solids would settle and seriously damage the roots on the bottom of the tub. It seemed like the plant took weeks to recover from this and also affected my harvest. To top all of that off, as a lesson to all of the new kids, it seems if your plants loose every fan leaf on them, they cant handle full strength flower nutes. Looking back, that should have been obvious, but it wasnt. I has them at 1100ppm's for weeks and the ppm's wouldnt drop at all untull i got the pps to 800 or below. I feel like this also effected the harvest. all of that being said, the plants were fully dry as of yesterday(friday). The final weight came out to 47g's. The smell now, without curing, is fantastic. Supre friuty. not really a specific fruit smell, but more like fruit salad. Everyone who took a wiff, face lit up and said they had never smelled weed that smelled that good, I agree with them. And since they just went into jars today, I can only see it getting better. The taste is a different story. It does taste good, even though it hsnt cured yet. It is only disappointing because it doesnt taste like it smells or even like fruit at all. It is a very earthy taste and thats the only word I have to describe it. I have never tasted anything even close to it in my 27 years of life, and have no way of comparing it to something. Hopefully it will get more a a fruity flavor from curing. So under the circumstances, I am very plased that I still got some killer herb, despite all of the problems. Forgot to mention that the smoke is a very stron high/stoned mix that is pretty balanced. Gives you a soaring head high with an almost equal body buzz, no drowsyness though. The high lasts for about 3 hours.

On to the new stuff. Anyone familiar with my thread has a basic idea of my equipment. Well, over the last week, all of it has changed. I have upgraded from my 430w Agro to dual 600w's. Went with the Lumatek dual 600w dimmable running Ushio Opti Red's in SuperSun2 reflectors. Also changed out the constant intake for a sealed room. I added a 12,000btu portable ac that has dual hose so it wont suck out my co2. It is also a 12,000btu heater, dehumidifier, and air ionizer, which the plants have always loved and helps with the smell. I also changed out the squirel cage fan I had on my light for a 6" can fan, and put it on a controller, since 250cfm seemed excessive for my 10ft duct run. Kept my dwc tubs the same, but now there is 2 of them. The plan is to stager the flower by 1 month and have a harvest from 1 light roughly every month. Liked the idea of a constant supply more than a bulk kick every 2 months. I also changed from my bottled co2 on a timmer to a Hydrogen MiniGen that I will we water cooling with drain to waste tap water, and it is being controlled by a Setinel CPPM1 CO2 controller. Will be nice to see how my setup does with dialed in co2, instead of random bursts that got diluted quickly by the constant intake. Another product I'm putting to the test now is Lightning film. I normally use regular mylar around the plants, but it is thin and rips easily and is a bitch to keep clean. The new stuff is almost as thick as a tarp and is supposed to be completely washable. also has groves in it like a reflector, so it might have better light distibutiuon, but hot spots were never a problem for me. My old screen was 3'x3', the new one will be 3.5'x8'. Still have to build it and hang the lights and fans, but that will all be done by the upcomming weekend hopefully. Thats about it for the upgrades. For anyone who didnt know, my camera has been at the shop for a month, but I'm suposed to get it back tomorrow. Once the room is finished, I will do a big update on all of these upgades at work. I am going to be running Blue Kush under both lights this round, since I lost my Mango, Blue Mystic, and Mazar mom's to the basterd mites. I am currently regowing new ones from seeds in my new veg room. So bear with me guys, I hate having an update with no pics, its not my style. But I'll try to make up for it with a badass update within the next week. As always, if you have any questions or comments, feel free to ask or post.

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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
    #352844 - 01/24/10 10:54 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

And finally, the much anticipated udate after the rooms update. Been working hard for 2 week now. Completely stripped the room bare. Sprayed the whole place down with organicide and then an hour later with 1:4 ratio of bleach water. Rewrapped the whole room in panda film, then did around the screen in Lightning film. Put in a 12,000btu portable dual house ac/heater. Havent had to use it yet. Installed a Hydrogen miniGen and water cooled it with drain to waste, and hung the 2 600w's with a 6" canfan and used SuperSun 2 reflectors hooked to a dual 600w lumatek balast. Running the same dwc tubs I have always, but now there is 2. Just Put in the 3 larger Blue Kush clones I had into the left side of the screen and in the next few days, I will be putting 6 small Blue Kush clones in the right. The Screen is 3'x8'. Any questions about the build, feel free to ask, and now onto the goods.....

Blue Kush:  Day 1
  Rm Temp: 84F
  Res Temp: 75F
  RH:  37%
  CO2PPM: 1500
  Nute PPM: 1080
  PH: 5.95






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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
    #352854 - 01/25/10 12:02 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

ok fuck ya...way to take it up 10 notches again!! now we're talkin bro!

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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: shakalaka]
    #352880 - 01/25/10 02:01 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

shakalaka said:
ok fuck ya...way to take it up 10 notches again!! now we're talkin bro!



I do what I can. I feel like I have room building and design down about as good as I can, and am starting to get the hang of the plants themselves. They look a little unhappy in the pics, but they are strugling to get used to a higher nutrient load, almost 10F higher temps, high co2, and 500w's more of light. If they dont perk up by midday tomorrow, I'm gona dim the balast down to 400w untill they get used to the lights. One of the few drawbacks to my room is not being able to move the lights up, but thats why I went with the dimmable. Wasting power though, so I only want to use that feature if needed.

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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
    #352885 - 01/25/10 02:30 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

amazing.

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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
    #352895 - 01/25/10 03:14 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Integra21 said:
I'm gona dim the balast down to 400w untill they get used to the lights. One of the few drawbacks to my room is not being able to move the lights up, but thats why I went with the dimmable. Wasting power though, so I only want to use that feature if needed.




I would not worry about the wasted power when dimming your lights. Someone posted this thread on icmag indicating that Lumatek dimmable ballasts do not consume full power when dimmed.

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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Ojom]
    #352967 - 01/25/10 12:53 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

cool, then it doesnt bother me as much. Wish I would have goten that watt meter, but I dont know if they make it for 220v. That would be a real easy way to tell.

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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
    #353182 - 01/25/10 09:06 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Do you prefer them nutes over fox farm and other nutes or just use that kind? The reason I asked is beacuse I have the same stuff and am pretty impressed.

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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: blueberry D]
    #353319 - 01/25/10 10:20 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I have tried gh flora series and the FoxFarm Troi, as weel, but had the best results and least problems with the technafora set.

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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
    #355418 - 01/30/10 12:21 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Bump, Bump, Bump. If all keeps going well, the second tub will gets its 6 clones on monday.

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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
    #357059 - 02/02/10 11:09 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Blue Kush
  Day 7 Flowering
  Co2 ppm: 1450



And here's the veg room as promised. I put the last pic here for refrence to the size of the piss mom
Piss Mom

New Blue Kush mom

Hopefully new Mango Mom

The Blue Kush clones going into flower tomorrow

and just one of my new flower tub being filled tomorrow

This was just a quick update, the next should be better. Had spent my whole weekend cleaning up the natural disaster in my basement. I was out on Saturday night and when I got home, heard the sound of rushing water. Went downstairs and the basement was flooded with 2" of water. It has wall to wall carpet. Aparently the water in line to the drain to waste valve for the MiniGen had poped off and flooded my entire room about 8" deep. The entire flower tub was submerged. Messed the nutrients up to 400ppm and 7.1ph. Spent the hole weekend sucking up water and drying my carpets. really sucked. After the water was soaked up, change the tub out with a fresh batch of nutrients. If you look closely, you can see the dried water dropplets on the walls. Hope I never have to fix a disaster like this again.

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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
    #360159 - 02/08/10 05:38 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Friends Room Update.

    About a month ago I posted pics of a 600w room I built for a buddy. I know its been a while, but finally manage to take some pics of his progress. The pics dont look as good as normal(took with my phone) since I didnt have my camera, but they turned out pretty nice. I have only been there to check on it a few times, so info is estimates.

Blue Kush Day 32
PH: Around 5.9
PPM's: 950
Rm Temp: 72F
No co2 enrichment

For comparison, here is a shot from a month ago when we first setup the room


And this is what they look like now...





They are coming along nicely. The smell is just starting to kick up, but not bad yet. At this rate, in another couple of weeks, I'll have some real bud porn for everyone. He is doing a pretty good job. The plants heath is great, he just didnt work them properly into the screen, but live and learn, I already busted his chops over it. Kinda ended up as a scrogged SOG. I will be taking pics of how mine are doing later tonight and have an update shortly after, probly late tonight. If you have any questions, I can try to answer them. Thanks for stopping by.

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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
    #360167 - 02/08/10 06:01 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

6th pic down farthest plant on the right has the biggest stem I have ever seen. That thing is a monster.

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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Triptonic]
    #360172 - 02/08/10 06:06 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Yep, looks even bigger in real life. Next time I'll try to put a bic or something next to it for comparison. How about you trip, hows your setup coming. Pay for the travel and smoke me up hella good and I'll come help you build.

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Re: Balls out first Grow (White Widow Scrog, DWC Hydro, 430w Son Argo Air cooled)*Updated Weekly* [Re: Integra21]
    #360175 - 02/08/10 06:09 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Ha ha you only live like 7 hours away or some shit. But I cant even afford to build my setup right now. I gotta do it cheap but well. I might hit you up the next time I go visit my buddy.

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