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 Budmanman
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 Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking!  [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#314072 - 11/11/09 11:57 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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the strain took a good two weeks in a rooting cube made of some foamy stuff other than rock wool.
My mother plants have grown into amazing mothers in their new soil. I recently trimed them down from 3 feet to 1 foot and am now back into bonzai.ing them.
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 Hawksresurrection
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: Budmanman]
#314089 - 11/11/09 12:22 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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It sounds like you could just have a strain that takes a long time to root. Most of the strains I have worked with don't take 2 weeks to root, even in cubes.
Also where you take the cutting from can effect how easy and quick your clones will take root. You should always be taking cutting from the lower/older branches. Rooting hormones are more concentrated in the branches that are closest to he root system.
Another way to help your cutting root faster is to reduce the amount of nitrogen they have in them, and at the same time increasing the amount of carbohydrates. To do this you should flush your mother plants with a low nutrient solution a LOT for a few days before taking the cuttings.
Hopefully this will help you.
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azshroomer
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Registered: 05/01/09
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#314244 - 11/11/09 02:38 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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You haven't been listening. YOU are the ignorant one.
Take that jury rigged shit off the top of the cloner. It doesnt need that humidity dome if that what you wanna call that trash.
Trim your clones dude, how do you expect them to root when their maintaining those huge fan leaves.
Also trim the stem so that its not longer than the bottom of the netcup.
Get a 4 bulb 2 foot T5 and put it over the cloner at about 8 inches above.
DO NOT USE ANY NUTRIENTS OR HORMONES.
Ive said this 3 times in this thread so far, PAY ATTENTION.
Balance water to 5.8. Wait an hour and check it again, PH will balance out over time.
Your reading after adding PH up/down will vary from 5 minutes after you add it to an hour after you add it.
CHILL THE FUCK OUT AND WAIT 5 DAYS.
If you still fail then growing is not the hobby for you.
This is as simple as it gets.
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Budmanman
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: azshroomer]
#314965 - 11/12/09 09:58 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
azshroomer said:
Take that jury rigged shit off the top of the cloner. It doesnt need that humidity dome if that what you wanna call that trash.
I ended up taking it off to see if they drooped and they didnt so all is well.
I do not think that it will slow them down in anyway by haveing it. It had holes in it to allow air to get in and there is TONS of air blowing in the room. Thats why I had it to be safe since there is so much moving air.
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azshroomer said:
Trim your clones dude, how do you expect them to root when their maintaining those huge fan leaves.
Also trim the stem so that its not longer than the bottom of the netcup.
If I cut the stem shorter it wont be at the point were the other branches were growing out were roots form well from what I have read.
And they are rooting rite now. The last clones I took when I had nutes in the water started rooting too. I am just trying to get them to root very fast. Since I read 3 days rooting time that is why I built the thing. to increase rooting time. That has yet to happen but the clones definutly stay healhier which I am glad about.
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azshroomer said:
Get a 4 bulb 2 foot T5 and put it over the cloner at about 8 inches above.
DO NOT USE ANY NUTRIENTS OR HORMONES.
Ive said this 3 times in this thread so far, PAY ATTENTION.
Balance water to 5.8. Wait an hour and check it again, PH will balance out over time.
Your reading after adding PH up/down will vary from 5 minutes after you add it to an hour after you add it.
CHILL THE FUCK OUT AND WAIT 5 DAYS.
If you still fail then growing is not the hobby for you.
This is as simple as it gets.
Why do I need more light? They are not useing photosynthesis at this time. I do not understand what the added light will do other than controll weather they are in veg or bud mode.
And the hormone rinsed rite off so it had no effect on anything and that other guy says to use it and that he gets his roots in unheard of times to.
And all my clones are rooting rite now. 70% have root nubs and 50% of them were showing them selves yesterday.
The roots today I just checked them 5 mins ago are not even 1/4 an inch long. and in the next 2 days I doubt they will even be 1 inch long.
So I do not see how you have 2-3 inch long roots in 3 days as you claimed in your tech. even if they rooted 24 hours after you took them the roots still would not have had enough time to grow to your claimed length.
And I just looked and your teck again and it seems the pic of your 2-3 inch long roots in what I reemember it saying 3 days now says 4 at the bottom of the tek has been removed. I wonder why?
So to conclude aero cloning does not seem to increase root times in my real life experience but the clones do come out better. There is no yellowing or any discoloration as when done in cubes.
Edited by Budmanman (11/12/09 10:05 PM)
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Budmanman
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: Stoneth]
#315019 - 11/13/09 01:11 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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stoney.69 said:
You no issues huh.
I remember this
http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/298855#298855
We've tryed helping, you just don't want help is all.
A working ezcloner roots faster and will root with or without rooting gels and/or powders.
Why you're having so much trouble is beyond me.
Here are my mother plants rite now. Currently bonzai'ing them,
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TomCollins
Registered: 10/06/09
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: Budmanman]
#315026 - 11/13/09 02:26 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Budmanman: What's wrong witchu? You don't even read the responses and double post every time. Put down the fucking coffee cup.
I told you how to leak proof the thing. You didn't listen. Now it's still leaking. Guess why?
Stop shitting on azshroomer because your using a crappy slow rooting strain in your piss shit aero cloner that you can't fucken build properly.
https://files.growery.org/files/g09-46/782571569-IMG_2086.jpg
Wtf is that? That looks like shit. No wonder your having fucking problems. Fucking build another one properly or just stfu.
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Ok so let me bring you idiots up to speed.
The admins are tired of this shitfest being made the joke of the weed community on the Internet.
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azshroomer
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: TomCollins]
#315131 - 11/13/09 12:20 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I never had any root pictures in the first place.
You have all the info you need in front of you, use it.
I will not be assisting you further on this issue.
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Budmanman
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: TomCollins]
#315218 - 11/13/09 04:48 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Spency said:
Budmanman: What's wrong witchu? You don't even read the responses and double post every time. Put down the fucking coffee cup.
I told you how to leak proof the thing. You didn't listen. Now it's still leaking. Guess why?
Stop shitting on azshroomer because your using a crappy slow rooting strain in your piss shit aero cloner that you can't fucken build properly.
https://files.growery.org/files/g09-46/782571569-IMG_2086.jpg
Wtf is that? That looks like shit. No wonder your having fucking problems. Fucking build another one properly or just stfu.
why does it look like shit. That is an iner liner taped to the lid to hold it in place.
Are you blind or did you not read that its working perfect and is not leeking because of that ugly peace of plastic that is blocking it from leeking period.
Turns out you do not even need weather stripping period so it was his fault for ever suggesting that. So once the clones are transplanted I will just remove it.
The thing is working fine the roots are all over on the stems now. Still not much longer than 1/4 an inch.
The strain is PPP from a reputable site.
You say it looks like shit but its just wrapped in black plastic so you do not know what your even talking about.
I mean the only time that it looked like "shit" is the only time its worked like it is suppose to.
You are all like hanky and can eat a dick as he is your god anyway.
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Budmanman
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: azshroomer]
#315219 - 11/13/09 04:48 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
azshroomer said:
I never had any root pictures in the first place.
You have all the info you need in front of you, use it.
I will not be assisting you further on this issue.
Oh you had rooting pictures. The picture is what prompted me to build it.
But you have conviently removed them
And you have helped very little.
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Budmanman
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: azshroomer]
#315220 - 11/13/09 04:49 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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azshroomer said:
You haven't been listening. YOU are the ignorant one.
Why don't you go back through the thread and look at how little you helped.
To top it off.... I helped you learn that you do not need weather stripping.
You even added it to your tech.
Edited by Budmanman (11/13/09 04:52 PM)
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Budmanman
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: Budmanman]
#315221 - 11/13/09 04:55 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Magash said:
You may want to realize that most people that use root cubes and say they see roots busting out in 7 days are full of shit. Expect more like 14 to 21 with most strains.
Magash even says people lie about rooting times.
That's how I first learned that people like to lie on here like there is no tomorrow.
This is the same thing that is happening here. Just lieing about aero cloning not cubes same thing.
Edited by Budmanman (11/13/09 04:56 PM)
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Budmanman
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: Budmanman]
#315463 - 11/14/09 02:00 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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So here they are on day 8.
I decided since they have rooted that they can handle a large light load so I put them under my 400 watt ceramic metal halide along with the moms.
Edited by Budmanman (11/14/09 02:00 PM)
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Jeff Funk
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: Budmanman]
#315827 - 11/15/09 08:54 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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What kind of timer are you guys using with these cloners? I know stinkbud called for a timer that would turn on for 1min every 5mins, but I could not find one that would take these settings. My timer is currently set to run for 15mins every hour which could be the cause of my slow rooting times. Does anyone have a suggestion on a timer I could get? Or would this setting be fine?
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Llih0046
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: Jeff Funk]
#318595 - 11/19/09 03:41 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here's the timer
http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/cap-artdne-adjustable-recycle-timer-wdaynight-function-p-541.html
If you're gonna be running multiple pumps, like 3 or more off the same timer you need a relay. Whole nother deal. But easy to do.
Dude with the leak problem put the contractor bag inside the rez with the draw tight closer outside of the lid like you have it. Rez temps and all kinds of other environmental factors (like topside foliage) will have an impact on root speed. Ambient temps in the summer produced different root rates than fall when it's cooler. When you get it sorted it will do roots in three days.
Where the hell are you located or what is your cultural background? Sounds to me like we have a failure to communicate based on cultural differences. If thats the case we can adjust our thinking and be a little more tolerant of the fact that you come across as a prick and work a little harder at helping you.
Edited by Llih0046 (11/19/09 03:48 PM)
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azshroomer
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: Llih0046]
#319215 - 11/20/09 03:43 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for the contribution Llih.
budman, there were never any root shots. Must have been another tech.
I never added any because i forgot to.
Also, I didnt say to use weather stripping at all in my tech. I had forgotten to remove it from the item needed list.
I most certaintly didnt add it to the tech due to you, I simply remembered to remove it from the items needed list.
Now after you have bitched and complained and acted like a general douchebag you have seen that it does indeed work.
4-5 mins off, 1 min on for timer
5.8ph
straight tap
no nutrients
check ph daily
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roots in under 4 days.
Maybe next time around you'll get those roots in 3 days with the proper environment.
Also, dont put em under MH until they have bigger roots.
Like about a foot long and youll notice topside growth.
Then you will want to move em into the stinkbud veg unit and introduce nutrients and the more powerfull lighting.
Clones dont need that much light.
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vwfalzy
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: azshroomer]
#319426 - 11/20/09 11:54 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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getting ready to build one of these my self
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