Home | Community | Message Board



Please support our sponsors.

Cannabis, Marijuana, Ganja & Greens >> Cannabis Cultivation

Welcome to the Growery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Amazon Shop for: Peat, Vermiculite, pH Test Strips

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1
InvisibleNanook
I CANT SEE
Male


Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 244
Loc: The Frozen Tundra Flag
sad seedlings
    #28096 - 05/13/08 12:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

my seedlings are hurting, it seems... their leaves have very deep ridges, i think the veins are yellowing, the tips of the leaves are starting to burn and they are curling inward pretty heavily. i have some shitty pics i took with my phone, i hope they help.

from what i can gather, they are suffering from a nutrient deficiency. they are planted in miracle grow mix that has some peat and verm or something. it is a continuous feed for 3 month mix. but, its like 3 years old. i used it 2 years ago with some success.

also, i have well water with a pH between 7.8 and 8. i just tested this with a pool tester that only reads from 6.8 up to 8 and is kind of old. i think this may be the cause of the deficiencies.

what i have done is watered them with pH 6.8 adjusted water (1tsp lemon juice per 1/2 gallon) with 1/2 recommended concentration (1/8 tsp per 1/2 gallon) 20-20-20 ferts.

could this be caused by too much light?

i hope i didn't fuck this up. i guess we'll see.

the majority of them:


the extent to which one of them is curled up:


under the lights:


--------------------

the spirit of Nanook

1400W 1st log

3000W 2nd log (current)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblecoda


Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 4,734
Trusted Cultivator
Re: sad seedlings [Re: Nanook]
    #28104 - 05/13/08 12:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

you over ferted them, you fed your plants with something that has a ratio of 20-20-20??

Seedlings need no nutes in the first few weeks of their lives, at least not until the first set of true leaves start coming in. There's a chance they could survive, but i dunno, that's a pretty damn heavy fertilizer. I'd consider flushing them out with some plain water, but, that may cause them even more stress then they're already going through.


--------------------


MFDoom666: sobriety kills my buzz every time.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleNanook
I CANT SEE
Male


Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 244
Loc: The Frozen Tundra Flag
Re: sad seedlings [Re: coda]
    #28162 - 05/13/08 01:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

they developed the symptoms before i fed them and i only fed them once, just now. they have been growing for 14 days, i think. i'll let you know how they respond to the ferts.

honestly, i have 1000's of seeds so it won't be a huge issue if these die on me, maybe i should germinate some more just in case  :shrug:


--------------------

the spirit of Nanook

1400W 1st log

3000W 2nd log (current)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinehightimes
Male

Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 104
Loc: aussie land
Last seen: 2 years, 2 hours
Re: sad seedlings [Re: Nanook]
    #28385 - 05/13/08 06:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I **think** your Ph is to high :sad:


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineSirius
Saturn Ascends


Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 1,540
Loc: The Milky Way
Last seen: 7 months, 16 days
Trusted Cultivator
Re: sad seedlings [Re: hightimes]
    #28386 - 05/13/08 06:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

chubbycharley said:
they developed the symptoms before i fed them and i only fed them once, just now. they have been growing for 14 days, i think. i'll let you know how they respond to the ferts.




Yes, but you planted them in a soil mix with continuous fertilizer feed, so I'm sure that could be a problem. Also there shouldn't be any direct light on them.

Quote:

hightimes said:
I **think** your Ph is to high :sad:




My thoughts as well.


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinehighasfuck
The last samuri
Male User Gallery


Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 6,886
Loc: So Cal
Last seen: 7 years, 9 months
Re: sad seedlings [Re: Sirius]
    #28998 - 05/14/08 12:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yea i was going to say something with light. Probably to much.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibledrSE
Pseudo Reality
Male User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 321
Loc: Twighlight Zone
Re: sad seedlings [Re: Sirius]
    #29250 - 05/14/08 09:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Sirius said:


Also there shouldn't be any direct light on them.




unless those are those twisted fluro bulbs. i can't really tell from the pic though.


--------------------
Grow Room



Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineOreoGrows
Registered: 05/03/08
Posts: 28
Last seen: 7 years, 4 months
Re: sad seedlings [Re: drSE]
    #29309 - 05/14/08 11:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

for one, you used miracle grow soil. and your water is way to acidic. get some ph down and bring it to a 6.5, that will help with the future nute lock out problems. that bottom pick looks like youre using cfls, so its not the light. you prbly just burned em a little. switch to fresh ph adjusted water untill theyve got like 4 sets of leaves, and then transplant and start your ferts.

good luck with the babies, i hope they pull through.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineYrat
Happy Planting
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 886
Last seen: 2 years, 9 months
Re: sad seedlings [Re: OreoGrows]
    #29359 - 05/14/08 12:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

OreoGrows said:
your water is way to acidic. get some ph down and bring it to a 6.5




high pH = alkaline (basic)
low pH = acidic

bringing the pH down means making it more acidic

but yes, 8 is too high, closer to 6.5 is preferred



Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineitsmything
 User Gallery
Registered: 05/16/08
Posts: 23
Last seen: 8 years, 4 months
Re: sad seedlings [Re: Yrat]
    #31313 - 05/16/08 02:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

you might wanna try starting them off in some good organic soil with no nutes


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleNanook
I CANT SEE
Male


Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 244
Loc: The Frozen Tundra Flag
Re: sad seedlings [Re: itsmything]
    #33045 - 05/18/08 01:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

UPDATE

they are doing OK, a couple are pretty wrinkled, a couple are a little burned, but they are all going to pull through.

BUT!!! i had a power outage last night at 6:30 and it was out until 3:30, thats 9hrs. what should i do for the light cycle? should i continue at 15/9? or will they be ok if i keep it at 24/0? perhaps 18/6 would be good to keep them in veg? it would seem 15/9 would force them to flower, but would one dark period be enough? an answer before 6:30 today would be just grand :tongue:

and to clarify: i have about 250w of cfl's on there (custom diy lighting array), but there is no reflector atm so efficiency isn't very high, but it seems they are getting enough light right now. also, i have been watering with tap water with 2tsp lemon juice per 1 gallon to bring the pH down around 6.8, would vinegar be better to use? apple cider or distilled?

i have more shitty cell phone pics :laugh:









the one in the center is doing the best/most symmetrical and with no burns :smile:


Edited by Nanook (05/18/08 01:46 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineSirius
Saturn Ascends


Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 1,540
Loc: The Milky Way
Last seen: 7 months, 16 days
Trusted Cultivator
Re: sad seedlings [Re: Nanook]
    #33061 - 05/18/08 02:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

chubbycharley said:
what should i do for the light cycle? should i continue at 15/9? or will they be ok if i keep it at 24/0? perhaps 18/6 would be good to keep them in veg? it would seem 15/9 would force them to flower, but would one dark period be enough? an answer before 6:30 today would be just grand :tongue:




I don't think its going to induce flowering, but it wouldn't make sense to leave it on 15/9. I'd recommend putting it on 24/0 for the rest of the vegetative growth state.


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblecoda


Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 4,734
Trusted Cultivator
Re: sad seedlings [Re: Sirius]
    #33075 - 05/18/08 02:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

+1

Keep 'em at 24/0, they'll be ok.


--------------------


MFDoom666: sobriety kills my buzz every time.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleNanook
I CANT SEE
Male


Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 244
Loc: The Frozen Tundra Flag
Re: sad seedlings [Re: coda]
    #33106 - 05/18/08 03:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

awesome, thanks. i'll keep it on 24/0.


--------------------

the spirit of Nanook

1400W 1st log

3000W 2nd log (current)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineYrat
Happy Planting
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 886
Last seen: 2 years, 9 months
Re: sad seedlings [Re: Nanook]
    #33666 - 05/19/08 10:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

nice save :thumbup:

they look much, much better and appear to be getting plenty of light as well :awesome:


--------------------
"Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded." - Abraham Lincoln


"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil
to one who is striking at the root"
~ Henry D. Thoreau
Strike The Root
                                                                                      :gethigh:


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineMFDoom666
trash hoarder
Male User Gallery Arcade Champion: Arkanoid, Donkey Kong


Registered: 04/24/08
Posts: 8,842
Loc: emerica
Last seen: 1 month, 19 days
Re: sad seedlings [Re: Yrat]
    #33785 - 05/19/08 02:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:congrats:


--------------------

FurrowedBrow said:

They should teach african engineering at the college level.  mcgyver 101

Harry_Ba11sach said:

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineC3R3AL KiLLRx
Ganja Giant.
Male


Registered: 05/15/08
Posts: 614
Loc: Sunshine State of Mind.
Last seen: 3 years, 11 months
Re: sad seedlings [Re: MFDoom666]
    #33794 - 05/19/08 02:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

God job saving the babies..


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinejust me
GreenThumb
Male


Registered: 04/21/08
Posts: 2,407
Loc: MO/TX/FL/HI
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
Re: sad seedlings [Re: C3R3AL KiLLRx]
    #35537 - 05/21/08 01:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

dude, they b lookin sexy now.

i cant believe that was only a 5 day difference in the first pics and the second pics...

they look great now. are you givin them ferts now?


--------------------

-and for all your ETHNO SEEDS needs come see us @ www.freeseedring.nl


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1

Amazon Shop for: Peat, Vermiculite, pH Test Strips

Cannabis, Marijuana, Ganja & Greens >> Cannabis Cultivation

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Falling Seedlings BlargIAmDead 1,785 5 06/05/08 11:57 PM
by erb
* Spider mits on seedling?! highasfuck 1,971 9 07/05/08 09:27 PM
by Mad Hatter
* Twisting Leaves on young seedlings SevenFingers 1,431 2 02/02/09 04:30 PM
by BudZilla
* How about some pics?
( 1 2 all )
ethnoguy 9,828 26 12/03/10 02:33 AM
by muse42
* Help dodeski 761 1 05/09/09 04:35 PM
by dodeski
* Extremely slow growth, and dying leaves of small plants phaseflux 4,850 10 02/06/09 05:42 PM
by RapidRoots
* Assistance, por favor t0ad 1,221 7 02/08/09 11:10 AM
by t0ad
* Minor issue... Inverted 558 1 05/07/09 11:57 AM
by Dr. Penguin

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: FurrowedBrow, Magash, Dr. Siekadellyk, phychotron
3,377 topic views. 3 members, 261 guests and 64 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Toggle Favorite | Print Topic | Stats ]
Search this thread:
Vaposhop
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2016 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.049 seconds spending 0.004 seconds on 14 queries.