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usefull banana fem tek
    #232785 - 05/27/09 10:36 AM (11 years, 3 days ago)

i haven't tested this myself so don't take it as fact, but a few friends of mine claimed its confirmation..

..gasses emitted from a ripening banana peel added to your germination process will increase chance of feminizing in your seeds.


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Re: usefull banana fem tek [Re: tophernotsocool]
    #232790 - 05/27/09 11:19 AM (11 years, 3 days ago)

i have never heard of anything like that


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Re: usefull banana fem tek [Re: Yungpunk]
    #232801 - 05/27/09 12:13 PM (11 years, 3 days ago)

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i have never heard of anything like that



yeah....i wonder what gasses are emitted from a ripening banana peel?....if its co2 then it could help with growth but idk about helping it become a fem?.....probably nowhere near what dry ice or a tank and regulator could do....unless you had like 50 - 100 naner peels?....idk im curious......i do know that fermentation of organic materials creates carbon dioxide / decomposition of organic matter such as compost will create carbon dioxide.....but as far as just tossing ripening banana peels in your garden would help turn it a fem??? i want more info explaining what kind of gasses come from a ripe banana peel that help turn a cannabis plant a feemale????? sounds too good to be true? just like the myth that smokin banana peels will ge you stoned?


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Re: usefull banana fem tek [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #232849 - 05/27/09 02:46 PM (11 years, 3 days ago)

sounds like an old wives tale to me.


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Re: usefull banana fem tek [Re: Yrat]
    #232866 - 05/27/09 03:26 PM (11 years, 3 days ago)

email sent to mythbusters!


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Re: usefull banana fem tek [Re: Yungpunk]
    #232869 - 05/27/09 03:29 PM (11 years, 3 days ago)

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email sent to mythbusters!


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Re: usefull banana fem tek [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #232872 - 05/27/09 03:34 PM (11 years, 3 days ago)

lol but we should!


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Re: usefull banana fem tek [Re: Yungpunk]
    #232873 - 05/27/09 03:35 PM (11 years, 3 days ago)

a myth that too many rotting banana peels rotting in one place can kill you due to to much carbon dioxide?


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Re: usefull banana fem tek [Re: Yungpunk]
    #232887 - 05/27/09 03:49 PM (11 years, 3 days ago)

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a myth that too many rotting banana peels rotting in one place can kill you due to to much carbon dioxide?


:rofl:i wonder how they would test that myth??? with a rat or sumthin?


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Re: usefull banana fem tek [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #232900 - 05/27/09 03:53 PM (11 years, 3 days ago)

idk im sure they have a way.


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Re: usefull banana fem tek [Re: Yungpunk]
    #233092 - 05/27/09 08:45 PM (11 years, 3 days ago)

This is actually widely circulated information... the gas that they emit as they decay is ethylene which is found in products like sensi soak to increase the incidence of females.
The procedure is to wrap cut up banana peels in paper towels (you want the gas they emit not the moisture which will rot the seeds) and put them in a plastic bag with the seeds you want to be fem.
Every couple days remove the peels and put new ones in. After about 10 days germ the seeds.
I've never seen proof that this works, but it is a well known procedure. 
If you want to try it, let us all know how it works.


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Re: usefull banana fem tek [Re: 81renaissance]
    #233118 - 05/27/09 09:14 PM (11 years, 3 days ago)

ethylene is commonly used to ripen fruit for produce, but i've never heard of it affecting the outcome of a plant's sex by treating the seed.  i strongly believe sex is determined by genetics more than anything else.

however, if anyone is willing to try this, please do so in a scientific manner.  split your seeds, say 10 and 10.  treat one batch with your banana peels or ripe apples, another great source of ethylene, germ them, and see if there is a significant difference in the female to male ratios.  of course, random chance should always be taken into account, and such an experiment should be repeated multiple times so that any observed difference is indeed significant.

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Re: usefull banana fem tek [Re: Yrat]
    #233134 - 05/27/09 09:36 PM (11 years, 3 days ago)

can you force sex a plant by going from 24/7 light to 12/12 at a early age? if so ill test this out


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Re: usefull banana fem tek [Re: Yrat]
    #233141 - 05/27/09 09:59 PM (11 years, 3 days ago)

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This is actually widely circulated information... the gas that they emit as they decay is ethylene which is found in products like sensi soak to increase the incidence of females.
The procedure is to wrap cut up banana peels in paper towels (you want the gas they emit not the moisture which will rot the seeds) and put them in a plastic bag with the seeds you want to be fem.
Every couple days remove the peels and put new ones in. After about 10 days germ the seeds.
I've never seen proof that this works, but it is a well known procedure. 
If you want to try it, let us all know how it works.



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ethylene is commonly used to ripen fruit for produce, but i've never heard of it affecting the outcome of a plant's sex by treating the seed.  i strongly believe sex is determined by genetics more than anything else.

however, if anyone is willing to try this, please do so in a scientific manner.  split your seeds, say 10 and 10.  treat one batch with your banana peels or ripe apples, another great source of ethylene, germ them, and see if there is a significant difference in the female to male ratios.  of course, random chance should always be taken into account, and such an experiment should be repeated multiple times so that any observed difference is indeed significant.

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Re: usefull banana fem tek [Re: Yungpunk]
    #233330 - 05/28/09 07:14 AM (11 years, 2 days ago)

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can you force sex a plant by going from 24/7 light to 12/12 at a early age? if so ill test this out




you can start flowering a plant as soon as it reaches sexual maturity (when the nodes begin to alternate) but then you will have a smaller harvest.  of course, if someone just has a bunch of bagseeds to try this experiment on, it wouldn't really matter.

a better way to go would be to take clones off the mothers (and would-be fathers), make sure to keep track of who came from who, and force the clones to flower once established.  this way you can know the sex of the vegging plants before you switch them over.  this is obviously much more work though, and would require a bit more space.


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Re: usefull banana fem tek [Re: Yrat]
    #233335 - 05/28/09 09:14 AM (11 years, 2 days ago)

Ethylene is used to make feminized seeds. Maybe thats how this got started :shrug:

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Re: usefull banana fem tek [Re: ethnoguy]
    #233347 - 05/28/09 11:27 AM (11 years, 2 days ago)

i've only ever heard of gibberellic acid being used to feminize seeds... well actually, to force a female plant to develop "male" flowers for pollination in order to produce purely female seeds.  you can see where genetics comes into play here.

don't get me wrong, the recent talk of ethylene for feminization is definitely interesting.  i just don't see how it's possible to use a plant hormone to change the sex of a seed that is already programmed to be male through its genes.


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Re: usefull banana fem tek [Re: Yrat]
    #233385 - 05/28/09 12:27 PM (11 years, 2 days ago)

There are a few products on the market. From what I read gibberellic acid is the most unsafe. Actually in the HT in my avatar there is an article about seeds by Jorge Cervantes. He spends a couple of paragraphs explaining it. If I had a scanner I would post it.

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Re: usefull banana fem tek [Re: ethnoguy]
    #233734 - 05/28/09 11:28 PM (11 years, 2 days ago)

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There are a few products on the market. From what I read gibberellic acid is the most unsafe. Actually in the HT in my avatar there is an article about seeds by Jorge Cervantes. He spends a couple of paragraphs explaining it. If I had a scanner I would post it.

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Re: usefull banana fem tek [Re: Inverted]
    #233739 - 05/28/09 11:39 PM (11 years, 2 days ago)

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There are a few products on the market. From what I read gibberellic acid is the most unsafe. Actually in the HT in my avatar there is an article about seeds by Jorge Cervantes. He spends a couple of paragraphs explaining it. If I had a scanner I would post it.

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Re: usefull banana fem tek [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #233831 - 05/29/09 10:55 AM (11 years, 1 day ago)

You can order Stamen-It! by emailing plantaegenomic@live.co.uk

Thats published info, so thats why the email addy is posted.

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Re: usefull banana fem tek [Re: Yrat]
    #234233 - 05/30/09 03:56 PM (11 years, 9 hours ago)

gibberellic acid is a growth hormone. in high enough doeses it can cause mutations in plant growth etc. it mostly effects the plant when the seedling is soaked or sprayed with it. you get milder effects applying it to full grown plants.ex. of it would be saoking the seedling of lettece in it, this would cause it to grow into a lettece tree. it mainly effects growth not gender. but if it causes mutations im sure there is a slight chance one of those mutations would be gender change. but its a hit and miss. unless you apply it and keep the temp hot or cool(ive read i think, that hotter temps gives chanceof males and lower temps give females)


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Re: usefull banana fem tek [Re: dieselkush]
    #234249 - 05/30/09 05:11 PM (11 years, 8 hours ago)

:thumbup: Thanks dk!

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