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Offlinetemporarygate
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founding strains?
    #144190 - 11/12/08 10:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What are the founding strains of marijuana? Their are so many strains now, and they have all been breeded and mixed from different strains. What are the original strains?


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Re: founding strains? [Re: temporarygate]
    #144193 - 11/12/08 10:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I would guess it would all go back to just indica sativa and that other one that i cant think of right now

then they all kinda evolved into other strains. then those were bred and so on :smile:


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Re: founding strains? [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #144199 - 11/12/08 10:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

if one is searching for the "founding strain" one should take into consideration the 3000yr track record of marijuana use worldwide ...
Starting with chinese medicine; which I believe was the first  period when the true effects of cannabis were fully understood....


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Re: founding strains? [Re: temporarygate]
    #144208 - 11/12/08 11:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

landrace strains are considered to be unaltered by human intervention

Hindu Kush is one of them which is a indica land race strain found in the Hindu Kush mountains of Pakistan

There are a few more popular indicas and some sativas such as

Luang Prabang Lao Sativa (I believe this is landrace)
Thai Stick Sativa
Theres land race strains all over africa, fiji, asia, pakistan, ect... some just aren't as popular as others.


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Re: founding strains? [Re: captain.koons]
    #144217 - 11/13/08 12:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

do you have more information about these "landstrains"
I undestand the concept yet never seen that name to describe the unaltered strains


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Re: founding strains? [Re: elaspeinreason]
    #144223 - 11/13/08 12:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Go search google for botany definitions of landrace.

ICmag has a lot of landrace indica/sativa threads.

sensiseeds - search hindu kush.


start there.


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Re: founding strains? [Re: captain.koons]
    #144233 - 11/13/08 12:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

the wiki on landrace actually helped alotttt


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Re: founding strains? [Re: elaspeinreason]
    #144244 - 11/13/08 01:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

that's good :smile:

I'm going to bed... botany exam in the morning :frown:


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Re: founding strains? [Re: captain.koons]
    #144256 - 11/13/08 01:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I think it would be interesting to create a family tree of some sort that shows where all the strains came from.


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Re: founding strains? [Re: temporarygate]
    #144259 - 11/13/08 01:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

it would be very very elaborate if even possible :P a lot of cannabis strains are guarded too. like Jack Herer is Cinderella 99 crossed with some unknown crap. All of the Arjan strains from GH seed co are guarded genetics.

soma has a small family tree of his strains in his book.


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Re: founding strains? [Re: captain.koons]
    #144272 - 11/13/08 02:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

This sounds like the start of something goood.
I could see our growery/shroomery community undertaking such a fleeting task!
Who,thus far, has even had the audicity to suggest trying to catagorize & find the orgins of modern cannabis...through an emperical means


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Re: founding strains? [Re: elaspeinreason]
    #144276 - 11/13/08 02:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

also whats the point?


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Re: founding strains? [Re: captain.koons]
    #144357 - 11/13/08 02:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe the point is not being a boring unoriginal faggot. Real, original breeders, will start with landrace strains usually and work up from there. You can turn pretty much any weed into gold if you know what you're doing. If you've got a gas chromatograph you can also test the potency and selectively breed the plants, to make them as good as any of the shit that they sell on the internet like white widow, super skunk, etc.

It's more work to tame the wild ones and make them how you want them, but but the end result is much more rewarding and satisfying than just crossing some already well known strains and saying you've made a new strain.


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Re: founding strains? [Re: blehblee]
    #144363 - 11/13/08 02:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

He's talking about making a family tree of all known weed strains... who started the topic of becoming breeders?


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Re: founding strains? [Re: captain.koons]
    #144383 - 11/13/08 05:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

captain.koons said:
He's talking about making a family tree of all known weed strains... who started the topic of becoming breeders?


Ohhh, I misunderstood you because your question didn't seem to have a certain direction and plus I was wasted with only about 4 hours sleep... But, even though it wasn't directed to me, I have to say I think it would be a good idea cause you could check the tree to find out which traits or recessive traits the strains might have and other things like that. But I thought they already had sites where they'd do weed dna tests for you.

This is a cool site btw. Much less restrictive than shroomery. The only problem is this site is new and doesn't get much traffic. It could be as good as overgrow eventually.


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Re: founding strains? [Re: blehblee]
    #144388 - 11/13/08 05:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

start recruiting :P


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Re: founding strains? [Re: captain.koons]
    #144472 - 11/13/08 08:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

amen start the recruiting
but in regards to my "weed-family tree" I have much more I would like to input although I am currently restricted to using my iPhone ... When I get to a computer I'll expound


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