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Re: 2 weeks until the democrats take over [Re: wowitch420]
    #134356 - 10/19/08 04:35 PM (11 years, 8 hours ago)

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hes libertarian




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but i hate obama. one step closer to socialism.


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Re: 2 weeks until the democrats take over [Re: usg543]
    #134357 - 10/19/08 04:37 PM (11 years, 8 hours ago)

what is so bad about socialism?


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Re: 2 weeks until the democrats take over [Re: Picklez]
    #134359 - 10/19/08 04:41 PM (11 years, 8 hours ago)

because i plan to be rich and wealthy and i don't want the government taking my money away and giving hand outs to lazy fucks. not my fault they dropped out of highschool and work at mcdonalds.

capitalism > socialism


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Re: 2 weeks until the democrats take over [Re: usg543]
    #134363 - 10/19/08 04:45 PM (11 years, 8 hours ago)

If you think America would ever go fully socialist then I think you are crazy. You are forgetting that government is ran by rich people, why would they want to fuck themselves?

I do think we need socialist programs. Socialized Medicine to be specific, but only for citizens. (im sick of illegal aliens getting health care because hospitals cant refuse to treat someone)


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Re: 2 weeks until the democrats take over [Re: Picklez]
    #134372 - 10/19/08 04:49 PM (11 years, 8 hours ago)

we don't need socialized medicine either dammit. there is a reason we have the best hospitals and medical treatment then the rest of the world. pay your own way and get insurance. stop mooching off the rest of us.

and i don't want to pay for some fucked up 18 year old to have a sex change in las vegas because they were supposed to be born a girl....

no government organization has ever been more efficient than a private one. why? because they have unlimited resources of money and they are not required to make a profit. read up on this. more government is not the answer.

i hate big government. the only purpose of government originally was ONLY to protect our individual rights and freedoms.


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Re: 2 weeks until the democrats take over [Re: usg543]
    #134374 - 10/19/08 04:51 PM (11 years, 8 hours ago)

you only look at the negatives. what about the family that lives paycheck to paycheck and doesnt have 300,000$ sitting in a bank account waiting for a loved one to get cancer.

I dont think sex change surgery is provided in countries with socialized medicine anyways


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Re: 2 weeks until the democrats take over [Re: Picklez]
    #134378 - 10/19/08 04:53 PM (11 years, 8 hours ago)

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and for your example:

then those fucks should have had insurance. if not there are many PRIVATE organizations that will donate to causes like that. if i knew them personally i'd help them out.


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Re: 2 weeks until the democrats take over [Re: Picklez]
    #134380 - 10/19/08 04:54 PM (11 years, 8 hours ago)

i bet usg doesnt like taxes being payed either.

FUCK THE FIREMAN'S FAMILIES! VIVA LA REVOLUTION!

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Re: 2 weeks until the democrats take over [Re: Picklez]
    #134381 - 10/19/08 04:55 PM (11 years, 8 hours ago)

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I dont think sex change surgery is provided in countries with socialized medicine anyways




there was an article in the news recently where a case (although in America and through insurance) was paid completely by their insurance provider. i wish i could provide a link but i didn't care to save it.


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Re: 2 weeks until the democrats take over [Re: usg543]
    #134382 - 10/19/08 04:56 PM (11 years, 8 hours ago)

thats a fucking stupid agrument. so because someone cant afford to carry insurance, fuck them

I really hope you get diagnosed with cancer before you "get rich"

do you have insurance right now? because I bet majority of the people here dont. so fuck us, right?


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Re: 2 weeks until the democrats take over [Re: Calibrate]
    #134383 - 10/19/08 04:56 PM (11 years, 8 hours ago)

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i bet usg doesnt like taxes being payed either.




i don't. the average american works 4 months out of the year just to pay all forms of federal/state taxes. 4 fucking months of work for what??? NOTHING.

what do i get??


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Re: 2 weeks until the democrats take over [Re: usg543]
    #134384 - 10/19/08 04:57 PM (11 years, 8 hours ago)

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I dont think sex change surgery is provided in countries with socialized medicine anyways




there was an article in the news recently where a case (although in America and through insurance) was paid completely by their insurance provider. i wish i could provide a link but i didn't care to save it.




so then what relevance does it have

none.

exactly :rolleyes:


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Re: 2 weeks until the democrats take over [Re: Picklez]
    #134386 - 10/19/08 04:59 PM (11 years, 8 hours ago)

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thats a fucking stupid agrument. so because someone cant afford to carry insurance, fuck them

I really hope you get diagnosed with cancer before you "get rich"

do you have insurance right now? because I bet majority of the people here dont. so fuck us, right?




i don't have insurance right now no, i was dropped off my parents insurance when i turned 22. i know it's stupid of me, and i should/my parents have been telling me to get insurance through my university, but i haven't yet. if i get deathly sick it is my own fault and i will have to deal with it. i don't expect someone else to pay for me being a lazy fuck. even though i barely make above minimum wage and am putting myself through school completely, i could still afford insurance, it is very cheap.


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Re: 2 weeks until the democrats take over [Re: usg543]
    #134388 - 10/19/08 05:00 PM (11 years, 8 hours ago)

well then quit being a pussy and go get AIDs. Spend the rest of your life paying off medical bills.

Being healthy should be a right, not a privaledge

im not saying it should be a handout, but if someone is ill and cant afford the care, then they should be covered by the government.


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Re: 2 weeks until the democrats take over [Re: Picklez]
    #134391 - 10/19/08 05:03 PM (11 years, 8 hours ago)

in fact that is exactly what Obama wants. if you already have health care insurance, than great, nothing would change. but if you dont have health care coverage, then you would be able to get it.


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Re: 2 weeks until the democrats take over [Re: Picklez]
    #134393 - 10/19/08 05:04 PM (11 years, 8 hours ago)

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Being healthy should be a right, not a privaledge




have you looked around? most americans don't give two shits about their health and you want me to pay for them to get bypass surgeries and shit after they've been eating mcdonalds and shitty food everyday for their lives clogging up their arteries. no thanks.

some medical conditions are unavoidable, but a lot are. most of the time it's the own persons fault.


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Re: 2 weeks until the democrats take over [Re: Picklez]
    #134395 - 10/19/08 05:06 PM (11 years, 8 hours ago)

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I dont think sex change surgery is provided in countries with socialized medicine anyways




there was an article in the news recently where a case (although in America and through insurance) was paid completely by their insurance provider. i wish i could provide a link but i didn't care to save it.




so then what relevance does it have

none.

exactly :rolleyes:




the relevance is that it went to the supreme court in California i believe and they said it was a valid medical reason and the insurance was forced to pay. just like if we had free healthcare.


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Re: 2 weeks until the democrats take over [Re: usg543]
    #134397 - 10/19/08 05:07 PM (11 years, 8 hours ago)

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Being healthy should be a right, not a privaledge




have you looked around? most americans don't give two shits about their health and you want me to pay for them to get bypass surgeries and shit after they've been eating mcdonalds and shitty food everyday for their lives clogging up their arteries. no thanks.

some medical conditions are unavoidable, but a lot are. most of the time it's the own persons fault.




That is where the agrument is

The agrument is that if health care was affordable, more people would go to a doctor on a regular basis, and be more aware of their current health.

Preventive medicine.

If someone goes to their doctor every 6 months and finds out that they have high blood pressure and they have it monitored every 6 months, I think they are more likely to change their habits than someone who hasnt been able to see a doctor for the past 5 years or something.

Not to mention they would be able to catch more deadly diseases before they become deadly. ie. Cancer in its early stages


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Re: 2 weeks until the democrats take over [Re: usg543]
    #134398 - 10/19/08 05:08 PM (11 years, 7 hours ago)

thats because california is the faggiest state in America. they need to just float off into the ocean

consider it the tradeoff for having legalized marijuana

the good ol' I want my rights protected but fuck my neighbor.


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Re: 2 weeks until the democrats take over [Re: Picklez]
    #134409 - 10/19/08 05:24 PM (11 years, 7 hours ago)

...

so let me ask you a question...

would you want to pay for a lung cancer patient to get expensive treatment when they have been smoking 2 packs a day of cigarettes for the last 40 years of their life?

either way, it's my fucking money, stop telling me how to spend it. if i want to donate it, so be it. but it should not be the federal governments job to control health care or tell me how to spend my money. i earned it through hard work.

government organizations are very inefficient. there is also a reason we have the best healthcare in the world.

if you want to be a lazy fuck, work a job making minimum wage, avoid paying medical insurance, and mooch off the rich (aka people who actually cared to get a higher education and to make something of themselves), then vote obama. why are you even going to college? drop out! you'll have it made.


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