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Tying plants down
    #94789 - 07/27/08 08:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I was wondering the benifits of tying plants down. I tied down 12 plants earlier because I heard it helped but could anyone explain more in depth why? Also... I snapped one because I got a little agressive with it. It didnt break all the way through and I managed rig it so it stayed up like it wasnt broken. Will it heal its self???? :smile: thanks!

p.s. Ive read about topping plants as well, but I never understood that. I suppose its too late for that anywho


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Re: Tieing plants down [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #95264 - 07/28/08 02:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The idea is height and space management. Indoors, pruning allows you to make more use of space and to make a plant fit your space. Also with some teks, for increased yield. Outdoors, its to keep it on the dl. I have other types of plants that have survived fractures in the stems. My Big Max pumpkin vine's main stem got broken halfway through from the wind. Its still kicking it. Its fucking huge actually.


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Re: Tieing plants down [Re: Eleutherios]
    #95341 - 07/28/08 04:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

it exposes part of the stem to light where new shoots which in turn make bud sites will grow towards the light.

the snapped one might be ok. if they were hardy enough to snap, theyre old enough to repair if somethin like that happens. ive had ppl snap full branches off of mine...assholes.

and topping, same with most plants, kills that main shoot and forces two new ones. so top once have 2 shoots, twice, 4 three times 6

get it.

i personally would rather let it grow how it grows, i dont care if my yield is less, its worth it to me



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Re: Tying plants down [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #95391 - 07/28/08 01:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Tying plants down is called Light Stress Training. (L.S.T.) Searching for "light stress training" should give you a lot more info on the subject.

It's supposed to give you some of the same growth benefits (bushier plant) as topping with less stress since you aren't actually cutting the plant.


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Re: Tying plants down [Re: Chronicbs]
    #95420 - 07/28/08 03:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

read this and this for some tie-down advice


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Re: Tying plants down [Re: Yrat]
    #95495 - 07/28/08 05:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Light Stress Training. (L.S.T.)




eh, ill be the anal one here, the L stands for low :wink:


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Re: Tying plants down [Re: coda]
    #95504 - 07/28/08 06:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I ended up breaking and then bending some wire hangers in half. Pulling the top of the plant all the way to the ground, I put the hanger over the plant and pushed the points into the ground. I only have about a 12x8 area to work with and my big plants take up most of that space when tied down. This is another concern of mine considering there is about another 2 months of veg time. Im a little concerned on what Im going to do on space...maybe a spiral so they get light in the middle and the outer edges? AHHH

I think I have a few males in there as well but Im not so sure. Its been awhile since Ive grown this wonderful plant. The majority have 2 pistles and a few have 1 pistle and 1 little ball.


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Re: Tying plants down [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #95551 - 07/28/08 07:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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This is another concern of mine considering there is about another 2 months of veg time.




Why is there two more months of veg time? The amount of time you leave your plants in the vegetative state is pretty much up to you, although it is usually best to allow them to reach sexual maturity, which is usually about four to six weeks. It sounds like you should flip them to 12/12. :wink:


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Re: Tying plants down [Re: coda]
    #95573 - 07/28/08 08:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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coda said:
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Light Stress Training. (L.S.T.)




eh, ill be the anal one here, the L stands for low :wink:




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Re: Tying plants down [Re: captain.koons]
    #95579 - 07/28/08 08:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

training plants in general is to achieve

even and fuller canopy's for light penetration
height management - say your growing a pure sativa you would need 12-15 feet of clearance to hang your lights without training.


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Re: Tying plants down [Re: Sirius]
    #95616 - 07/28/08 08:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Sirius said:
Quote:

legallyhomeless said:
This is another concern of mine considering there is about another 2 months of veg time.




Why is there two more months of veg time? The amount of time you leave your plants in the vegetative state is pretty much up to you, although it is usually best to allow them to reach sexual maturity, which is usually about four to six weeks. It sounds like you should flip them to 12/12. :wink:






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Re: Tying plants down [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #95624 - 07/28/08 09:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

:smirk:

Frankly, I blame the hash. :stoner:


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Re: Tying plants down [Re: Sirius]
    #95990 - 07/29/08 03:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

dont blame the hash.

and dont call me frankly.

the coat hanger is a Just Me tek... bookmark that shit.

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Re: Tying plants down [Re: just me]
    #96001 - 07/29/08 03:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

oh. bro,

if you tied down THOSE plants, they were WAY old for a tie down. im curious to see how they turn out.

you shouldve let those huge ladies just blossom


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Re: Tying plants down [Re: just me]
    #96018 - 07/29/08 03:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't bother training outdoor plants. I'd just top them.


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Re: Tying plants down [Re: captain.koons]
    #96027 - 07/29/08 03:14 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

nah, start a plant early. late february, early march, and tie her down till she flowers and you have a bathtub sized bush.


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Re: Tying plants down [Re: just me]
    #96039 - 07/29/08 03:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

the thing is where I live I wouldn't bother watering and I know enough good locations where I'd just spend my time planting more trees.

depending on location not training your plants could be more guerilla too like say you plant near some berry bushes or something.


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Re: Tying plants down [Re: captain.koons]
    #96054 - 07/29/08 03:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

very true.

guerilla is WAY differnt tho than a maintained crop.

you can always add a few handfuls of polymer crystals to the land youve dug up for your plants and pretty much let mama nature do her thing.

but if you have the time and ability to visit your plants several times a week. then lst works well, and/or growing them out as God intended them. big huge center cola :drooling:


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Re: Tying plants down [Re: just me]
    #96071 - 07/29/08 03:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If you consider some outdoor plants yield like 1-2lbs you won't get better results from training them :P

Each visit makes you more and more likely of getting busted to.

I like to plant and skidaddle.

Next season I'll be planting critical mass and cinderella 99 lots of them. Prehaps some others.


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Re: Tying plants down [Re: captain.koons]
    #96130 - 07/29/08 04:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

then make sure you get about 5lbs of polymer.

trust bro. outdo is my ting.

and go back to my post a long ways ago, i said i like to let them do their thing.

but if you insist on tying, or topping. you can make some HUGE outdo bushes


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