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Indoor grow (G PURPS) * 1
    #851804 - 11/10/21 08:07 AM (2 months, 10 days ago)

So I finally found some seeds in some g purps I bought from the dispensary. Long story short I planted 3 in a pot with potting soil on the 4th of this month. 2 just popped up yesterday :rockman: I'm thinking of ordering a 1000w LED and just grow them inside....

OR I may grow them inside until spring and then transplant them outside...I did that last year and got 2 monsters :awehigh:


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
    #851805 - 11/10/21 10:28 AM (2 months, 10 days ago)

Do some research before you buy LEDs.  Don't just read the reviews, there is a lot of junk out there.  Many good lights use Samsung LM301B or H diodes, but there are other good diodes out there.  LEDGardener is a good resource to learn from, especially if you were to go the DIY route.

You'd want around 500w of LED to cover a 4x4 area for flower, about half that if you're just vegging under it.

I'd flower them out inside, but take clones while they're in veg in case one of them turns out to be special.  That way you can veg the clones while you flower the mothers, and you'll have a nice indoor crop as well as a head start on next year's outdoor season.


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: yoosername]
    #851817 - 11/10/21 02:54 PM (2 months, 10 days ago)

Yeah I'm not gonna buy an off brand light. I have not decided but for 2 plants 1000w good led should be good enough right?


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #851818 - 11/10/21 03:44 PM (2 months, 10 days ago)

That depends on how large you want to grow them.  Typically I like to run at least 1 plant per 2x2 space.  If you do one plant per 4x4 footprint, you'll want to use a scrog net along with other training techniques to form an even canopy, and you'll want extra height to allow for the bigger plants.

Rather than one 1000w LED, I would go with two 5-600w LEDs, and grow the two plants under their own lights in their own 4x4 spaces.  Be prepared to spend around $1 per actual watt of power the LEDs consume.

The only reason you'd need 1000w of LED per 4x4 is if the LEDs were inefficient, or you were running a sealed grow with co2.


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: yoosername]
    #851829 - 11/10/21 06:59 PM (2 months, 10 days ago)

Hmm thank you for the info. I am choosing led because aren't they cheaper to run compared to the other lights? Im only used to the sun....which is free :shrug:


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #851831 - 11/10/21 08:52 PM (2 months, 9 days ago)

LED are more efficient at producing photons, which is why you can get away with using 600 watts instead of 1000 while still getting roughly the same yield.

However, a watt is a watt.  A 600w LED will cost just as much to run as a 600W HPS, maybe slightly cheaper when you take dimming into account, provided you dim the lights during veg.


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: yoosername]
    #851840 - 11/11/21 02:44 AM (2 months, 9 days ago)

Oh ok, and by $1 per watt do you mean per month? If so that would not be worth it at all and I will just wait for outdoor season :shrug:


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #851842 - 11/11/21 04:17 AM (2 months, 9 days ago)

I guess I'll just do what I did with this  year  with these tall ladies


I started them indoors in like January or February then transplanted outside once it was warm enough.


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
    #851844 - 11/11/21 08:21 AM (2 months, 9 days ago)

Sorry, when I said $1 per watt, I meant upfront cost of the light.  A 600 watt light will cost around $600, up to $1200 depending on the brand.

As far as electricity costs go, this tool will help you estimate your monthly power bill.  Just add up the wattage of all your equipment, look up your local energy prices, and plug them into the calculator.


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: yoosername]
    #851847 - 11/11/21 09:07 AM (2 months, 9 days ago)

Oh hahaha I WAS GONNA SAY :lol:


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #851848 - 11/11/21 09:27 AM (2 months, 9 days ago)

Yeah I kinda worded that weirdly, I haven't had caffeine for about a week now, and am still getting use to life without it.  I seem to go through weed faster without it :feelsbadman:


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: yoosername]
    #851849 - 11/11/21 10:12 AM (2 months, 9 days ago)

Oh shit I'm sorry man, I wish you the best in your journey :vibin: (I ironically just started drinking coffee this year lol)


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #852095 - 11/16/21 06:47 AM (2 months, 4 days ago)

Soooo......im pretty sure these seeds came from a hermie as it's been a while and they have just not grown at all(they also have not withered either so fuck if I know lmao)


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #852104 - 11/16/21 10:00 AM (2 months, 4 days ago)

Idk if coming from a hermie would make them grow slower, first things I'd look at would be temp, soil quality, and light intensity. 

But they are likely to be hermies based on the fact that it came from an accidental pollination in a facility where sinsemilla flower production was the goal. 

That's the main reason I haven't messed with bagseed since the time I grew out a full blown hermie and had my first crop pollinated.


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: yoosername] * 1
    #852109 - 11/16/21 11:08 AM (2 months, 4 days ago)

My previous dispo based grow turned out amazing. And this is the exact method I germinated them so.....I think they are duds lol they aren't dying so I'll let them go to see what happens but I guess I'l move on. I have 2 seeds of manderin cookies v3, might plant them to see what happens.


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #852110 - 11/16/21 11:08 AM (2 months, 4 days ago)

From dispo bag seed:


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #852112 - 11/16/21 11:50 AM (2 months, 4 days ago)

I'm not saying all bagseed is hermies, as you know you can get great plants out of bagseed.  However, it is more of a dice roll.  It sucks to grow out something for months only to find that it's complete garbage.  For me personally, it's not worth growing out dispo bagseed when I have access to better genetics with a higher keeper rate and fewer hermies/runts/mutants. 

I still regret not buying more Bodhi packs when they were available.  One of the packs I bought for $70 a few years ago is going for $300 on strainly, other packs are going from $500 to as much as $700 (for 11 seeds!)

My germination method has been a 12-24 hour soak, then planting the seeds in jiffy peat pods.  They can stay in the peat pods for a couple of weeks, but it's best to transplant them to quality soil as soon as the cotyledons open.  I like 1 gallon pots for organic soil until they show sex.  2 gal would be more comfortable, but most of the plants I've run have shown sex in 1 gallon pots given enough time.

Mandarin Cookies v3, that's an Ethos strain, right?  I only ever bought one of their packs, Peach Crescendo, and I am now seeing Peach Crescendo flowers at my local dispo.  Seems a lot of the bigger producers are running Ethos gear.


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #852113 - 11/16/21 03:18 PM (2 months, 4 days ago)

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Hmm thank you for the info. I am choosing led because aren't they cheaper to run compared to the other lights? Im only used to the sun....which is free :shrug:



i've actually *mostly* been running weird offbrand amazon LEDs that all look like the same blackdog/galaxyhydro or whatever ripoff... had the same 3 lights in different areas for 3 years now, doesn't make a noticeable difference to power bill either

I have ONE good real actual brand LED it's a NextLight something something I have to look at the light or the site to remember, but I like to keep it put up until I have a packed tent in flower.

I don't mind buying the cheapo veg/supps over and over again, I want my good one to last as long as possible!


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: kreg]
    #852114 - 11/16/21 03:21 PM (2 months, 4 days ago)

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Mandarin Cookies v3, that's an Ethos strain, right?



Yes, that is Ethos.  :drooling:


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: kreg]
    #852115 - 11/16/21 03:23 PM (2 months, 4 days ago)

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Mandarin Cookies v3, that's an Ethos strain, right?



Yes, that is Ethos.  :drooling:



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a full blown hermie and had my first crop pollinated.



save the seeds, do a dry ice bubble bag shake, use the leftovers for edibles


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: kreg]
    #852116 - 11/16/21 03:35 PM (2 months, 4 days ago)

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a full blown hermie and had my first crop pollinated.



save the seeds, do a dry ice bubble bag shake, use the leftovers for edibles




It is far too late for that, I tossed everything.  Those seeds were not worth saving, and the bud was pretty bad as well.  This was years ago.


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    #852117 - 11/16/21 03:44 PM (2 months, 4 days ago)

Yah sure sure but if it were to happen again yknow- that's my plan anyway if the misfortune were to occur! I never want to waste time picking through seeds for stuff to smoke again! Missing just one will give me an awful headache


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: kreg]
    #852120 - 11/16/21 06:04 PM (2 months, 4 days ago)

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Mandarin Cookies v3, that's an Ethos strain, right?



Yes, that is Ethos.  :drooling:



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a full blown hermie and had my first crop pollinated.



save the seeds, do a dry ice bubble bag shake, use the leftovers for edibles



From what I read ethos is decent genetics. But even so with good ass genetics the seeds are still a roll of the dice of the parents genetics right? It will still be same odds as bagseed right? Maybe slightly better.


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
    #852141 - 11/17/21 08:14 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

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From what I read ethos is decent genetics. But even so with good ass genetics the seeds are still a roll of the dice of the parents genetics right? It will still be same odds as bagseed right? Maybe slightly better.




Ethos does things a little differently, some of their strains are breed by using only females, as opposed to other reputable breeders like Bodhi who never works with feminized seed.  Different strokes for different folks.

All genetics are a dice roll, but different genetics are like different die, kind of like mario party.  You can roll normal dice, and you have a 1/6 chance of getting a keeper, but if you roll the 456 die, that chance goes up to 1/3.  Roll the bowser die, and you might find something good, or you may end up being sent back a few spaces.

Now days there are so many different characters with different dice blocks, there is no one size fits all rule for finding keepers.  That said, you'll have a much easier time finding killer phenos if you start with solid genetics (or dice blocks :blazed:).


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: yoosername]
    #852145 - 11/17/21 09:00 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

Yeah but some of the best strains have been from random bagseed :wonka:


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #852148 - 11/17/21 10:49 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

All I'm saying is, if you want to find something special growing dispensary bagseed, you should be prepared to run a LOT of beans.

Depending on your standards, you may be satisfied with whatever you grow.  But personally, I'm sick of mediocre weed so I put a lot of effort into sourcing quality genetics.


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: yoosername]
    #852150 - 11/17/21 11:11 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

I'm the opposite :lol: I ONLY see crazy high % bud, I miss the old bud you could smoke joints all day like cigarettes :frown:


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #852151 - 11/17/21 11:31 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

Right, but, despite what the dispensaries would have us believe, THC content does not dictate quality! :mindblown: I could point you towards some quality landrace strains from some of the best breeders I know of, if you are interested in trying some :awesome:

Unfortunately some of them are highly sought after, so you have to know what you want before they drop and you have to be logged in and ready to buy when they drop.  But a drop is coming up, so let me know!


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: yoosername]
    #852156 - 11/17/21 03:23 PM (2 months, 3 days ago)

Man genetics is no joke!!! I'm surprised you've never shopped for fem beans before man!!

IDK bout dice roll from breeders! Every fem bean I've bought from a breeder usually ends up finishing very very dang close to what the strain description says. Like Bubblegum from Nirvana seeds that shit is for real dude it really really smells like bubblegum !
Ethos is legit they're very cool. I haven't successfully ran any of their plants from start to finish yet, but I have gotten one of their plants from a friend who started from clone and it was very good stuff and true to the strain description.


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: kreg] * 1
    #852162 - 11/17/21 04:39 PM (2 months, 3 days ago)

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Man genetics is no joke!!! I'm surprised you've never shopped for fem beans before man!!

IDK bout dice roll from breeders! Every fem bean I've bought from a breeder usually ends up finishing very very dang close to what the strain description says. Like Bubblegum from Nirvana seeds that shit is for real dude it really really smells like bubblegum !
Ethos is legit they're very cool. I haven't successfully ran any of their plants from start to finish yet, but I have gotten one of their plants from a friend who started from clone and it was very good stuff and true to the strain description.



It's going to vary depending on the breeder and strain.  For example, an F1 hybrid would display a variety of expressions.  An F2 would have even more variability.  F3-F6 and beyond you begin to see much more uniformity, which can be a good or a bad thing depending on what you're after.

If you're pheno hunting for your absolute favorite smoke, you're going to want a lot of variability in terpene and cannabinoid profiles, so an F1 or F2 hybrid would be a good choice.

If you're trying to produce a uniform crop of consistent phenotypes, then you'd want a more inbred line such as an F5.


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    #852169 - 11/17/21 06:09 PM (2 months, 3 days ago)

I just like putting seeds in the ground. It's more fun when it's random :wonka:


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    #852195 - 11/18/21 08:05 AM (2 months, 2 days ago)

It's all fun and games until somebody misses a hermie :rofl:


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    #852196 - 11/18/21 09:08 AM (2 months, 2 days ago)

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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #852198 - 11/18/21 09:17 AM (2 months, 2 days ago)

Again, I think breeder phenos are totally worth it.
FUCK i miss my cheese plants so much.

I found a pack of Ethos Cheesy Poofs i forgot i had.
Must be patient. At least after the hammers are in flower.


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    #852200 - 11/18/21 09:28 AM (2 months, 2 days ago)

Guys. The labs that supply the dispos have the best genetics. If they are by some miracle NOT hermie seeds and some spec of pollen got transferred via worker wouldn't that be some of the best genetics? :wonka:



Edit: my state ONLY has top shelf so when I say dispo bagseed I don't mean any of YOUR guys dispo bagseed.


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #852201 - 11/18/21 09:35 AM (2 months, 2 days ago)

I've honestly never been into a dispo but ive tried imported dispo stuff and im just not into it.
IDK wtf those monkeys are doing, im not giving them money for it ahaha. Stickin with homegrown and traded homegrown. At least that way you can directly tell the grower "hey this is good but dont do this part next time" Besides i dont need a cashier, delivery driver, store managers, people doing inventory, more taxes i dont want to pay.
I just want good flower. And i want to deal with as few people in the middle as possible


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: kreg]
    #852202 - 11/18/21 09:42 AM (2 months, 2 days ago)

I've had dispo from other states it's ok.....you GOTTA come to my state ans try some of the stuff here. I'd even buy so you could try :lol:

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    #852203 - 11/18/21 09:44 AM (2 months, 2 days ago)

You can not tell me if you found a seed in this you wouldn't try to grow it? :wonka:


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #852204 - 11/18/21 10:06 AM (2 months, 2 days ago)

Best is subjective.  Many people try to avoid the super hyped up strains that dispensaries often grow.  There are a few that grow more exotic stuff, but they are few and far between.

That stuff looks pretty good though, around here that would sell for $18 a gram :crankey:


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: yoosername]
    #852207 - 11/18/21 10:40 AM (2 months, 2 days ago)

This isn't even the hyped up strains. Fuck the hyped up strainslol. That was miracle alien cookies by grassroots. 🔥


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Re: Indoor grow (G PURPS) [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #852240 - 11/19/21 10:52 AM (2 months, 1 day ago)

I've heard MAC is all about the bag appeal, which I believe judging by that picture.  I know of someone who sells MAC 1 clones for $200 a pop and it's one of his least favorite strains.

I still think you'd appreciate growing some bodhi or magic spirit seed co beans.  If you're gonna grow, you might as well grow something you'll never find in a dispensary.


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    #852241 - 11/19/21 12:21 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

Mac 1 is ok. The flavor from grassroots Mac is by far my favorite flavor I've ever had from a dispo.


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    #852242 - 11/19/21 01:15 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

Yeah I've heard good things about grassroots' mac.  They must be doing something right.

Meanwhile in Michigan, cannabis corporations are growing moldy, pest infested flower, and running it through remediation machines until it comes out under the legal limit :feelsbadman:


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    #852243 - 11/19/21 03:03 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

That is disgusting....


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    #852244 - 11/19/21 03:53 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

Just another reason to grow my own, I guess :shrug:. Also, live rosin is still worth it's weight in gold around here, at $80 a gram! :gc:


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