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Unexplained nute lockout?
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Indoor closet grow, trying to grow out some mothers. temp average ~80, humidity average 50's. Some days both temp and humidity exceed acceptable range but not often.

About 80% FFOF, 20% chunky perlite.

20 hours of light, 2 400W MH.

I water with ph'd tap, about 6.5 ph, 300 ppm.
Runoff ph stay's around 6.5. And though they've never once been fed, the worse looking ones are spitting out >1300ppm.

They're about 2.5 month's old. I figure they should he hungry by now but it looks like lockout.
Any suggestions?




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Re: Unexplained nute lockout? [Re: Lofetospoon9] * 1
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flush if your in doubt. Kinda look like they're nitrogen deficient. The one's closest to the light might be too warm and messing up the nutrient uptake.  Do you have any oscillating fans on them so they can cool off and breath? 50% can be low humidity if the temperature starts to rise.


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Re: Unexplained nute lockout? [Re: phychotron]
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I have been afraid of heat as it is normally my limiting factor, but am unaware of the effects of this on nute uptake. I have a small fan inside the room that doesn't ocsillate. Besides that I have an oscillating fan on the outside of the closet that point in during daylight hours. Mostly it is hot and humid as I live closer to the equater.

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Re: Unexplained nute lockout? [Re: Lofetospoon9] * 1
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What makes u think n deficient? Usually yhat starts at the bottom

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Re: Unexplained nute lockout? [Re: Theman]
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Theman said:
What makes u think n deficient? Usually yhat starts at the bottom



It has that light color all around.





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Edited by phychotron (02/24/17 01:15 PM)

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Re: Unexplained nute lockout? [Re: phychotron]
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I think its heat/humidity related. When its hot it needs higher humidity, upwards of the 70% range when its 85. Gotta watch out for PM though. Its a problem I'm currently battling. Air circulation and ventilation is key. My lights were too close too, cooking the plants a little bit.


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Re: Unexplained nute lockout? [Re: phychotron]
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flush your soil really well and start again.
when it comes to nutrients, lockout, deficiency, toxicity, etc... theres so many thing that play a factor, we could discuss it for days.
I highly recommend reading

marijuana horticulture: the indoor/outdoor growers bible
by: jorge cervantes
there is an excellent section on nutrients.

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Re: Unexplained nute lockout? [Re: phychotron]
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phychotron said:
Theman said:
What makes u think n deficient? Usually yhat starts at the bottom



It has that light color all around.







Facepalm  looks to me it isnt yellowest near the bottom of those plants and hense not n def. But if u see yellowest near bottom i guess u could be right. Doubt it tho. Pretty clearly micro issue, magnesium most likely.

You should look up how nutrient uptake works lockout and WHY deficiencies appear they way they do. So dont think immediately N when u see any yellowing.

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Re: Unexplained nute lockout? [Re: Theman]
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Right, that's why I said "kinda looks" and then went into how I thought it was heat related :wink:


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