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Re: Like, how scared should we be of zika?? [Re: Data]
    #817871 - 08/08/16 04:28 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I got a life man, i'm not here to write you love letters.
You haven't been able to provide a single source for all the bs you've been spouting.
Anyone capable of thinking for themselves can see how full of yourself you are.:lol:


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Re: Like, how scared should we be of zika?? [Re: ninjapls]
    #817873 - 08/08/16 06:22 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Again, I'm speaking for the scientific majority. The minute you provide good sources to back up your OP, I'll draft up the long list of peer-reviewed materials that I used to come up with my responses.

But like you mentioned, I too have a life, and while I really enjoy doing the research and crushing your poorly-constructed arguments...I don't have the time to draft up a bibliography for a series of online forum responses unless the OP (the one who's claims are contrary to the scientific concensus) is serious enough to provide their list of sources.

I'd like to point out that this is at least the 4th time I've called you out on ignoring my request for sources. It's plain for anyone to see that you are a conspiracy troll.

And most who have been around this forum for more than a few months can see who's conspiracy-supporting, troll of a puppet you are. The mannerisms are identical, although I think the number of neurons has dropped signifcantly since the last time we saw you :shrug:


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Re: Like, how scared should we be of zika?? [Re: Data]
    #817881 - 08/08/16 10:16 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You're going to make a great dad someday, agmotes.


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Re: Like, how scared should we be of zika?? [Re: ninjapls]
    #817882 - 08/08/16 10:27 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

ninjapls' ride to work --> :failboat:


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Re: Like, how scared should we be of zika?? [Re: Bumble_Dick]
    #817883 - 08/08/16 10:34 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks :highfive:

I'd like to hold off on having kids until I've moved out to Denver or elsewhere in colorado. Know of any engineering jobs out there where you could recommend me to the hiring manager, by any chance? :dumblol:


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Re: Like, how scared should we be of zika?? [Re: Data]
    #817897 - 08/08/16 10:49 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Again, I'm speaking for the scientific majority. The minute you provide good sources to back up your OP, I'll draft up the long list of peer-reviewed materials that I used to come up with my responses.

But like you mentioned, I too have a life, and while I really enjoy doing the research and crushing your poorly-constructed arguments...I don't have the time to draft up a bibliography for a series of online forum responses unless the OP (the one who's claims are contrary to the scientific concensus) is serious enough to provide their list of sources.

I'd like to point out that this is at least the 4th time I've called you out on ignoring my request for sources. It's plain for anyone to see that you are a conspiracy troll.

And most who have been around this forum for more than a few months can see who's conspiracy-supporting, troll of a puppet you are. The mannerisms are identical, although I think the number of neurons has dropped signifcantly since the last time we saw you :shrug:



Lol you're speaking for the scientific majority? That's the biggest load of crap i've heard from you yet.

I've already provided sources,which is why i'm ignoring your requests for more. You haven't provided shit, which only supports my claim that you're just making shit up.

I've already pointed out how you're the one cherry picking information and you agreed that you were.
That throws your credibilty completely out the window.
Unless you show your sources that back up your claims.
Why is it so hard for you to copy and paste a few links?:lol:


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Re: Like, how scared should we be of zika?? [Re: ninjapls]
    #817901 - 08/09/16 03:29 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

We've already discussed this.

You provided links specifically regarding the use of chemicals to control the mosquito population, which i have already said is probably a really bad idea (even thoigh I commented on the over-blown claims that you and your non peer-reviewed links provided, I agreed that we probably should try avoiding chemical mosquito control).

Your 1st video focused primarily on the alleged risk (or lack thereof) of the zika virus, the unholiness of OX315A GM mosquitoes being released into the wild, and the alleged risk of said mosquitoes surviving the mating cycle and the offspring transferring the unholy genetic material to other animals in the surrounding ecosystem (particularly humans). There was a brief mention of the spectacular toxicity and suggested link to microencephaly (which I question, because actual research beyond biased news sources gives conflicting data on this), but the whole topic of chemical control was such a small portion of the video that I didn't even comment on it in my first post.

So, as I've said repeatedly, whenever you provide a list of sources that backs up all of the claims of the video (and I do mean all, not just links to "I hate pesticides club" fact sheets and conspiracy news articles on Naled and pyriproxyfen), then I'll draft up my list of links.

But if you continue to troll and blatantly ignore my requests, then we'll be forced to end our "debate", if you even want to call it that (does it count as a debate if one side just yells and throws feces like a chimpanzee?) :shrug:


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Re: Like, how scared should we be of zika?? [Re: Data]
    #817902 - 08/09/16 03:51 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Hah i'm a chimp throwing feces now?

Maybe you're a piece of shit shill.
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/dispelling-internet-disinformation-tactics-debunking-the-debunkers/

Dispelling Internet Disinformation Tactics – Debunking the Debunkers

January 27, 2014    5 Comments
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By Rebel Siren –  January 22, 2014

Internet TROLLS, also known as paid “forum posters”, “internet bloggers,” or if we call them what they really are, SHILLS, are increasingly being employed by private corporations and contracted agencies, sometimes for marketing purposes, but mostly to distract from the truth and prevent public outcry about dangerous programs such as geoengineering, genetically modified foods, and any issue where profiteers put their bottom line and lust for control over the destruction of the planet and at the expense of our health.  Trolls are employees that answered a work at home job ad on craigslist or some other venue.


The geoengineering trolls, specifically, are employed by the two main disinformation sites, metaxxxx and contrailxxxxxxx, both run by a gaming programmer.

He and his band of hired internet trolls lack expertise in science, meteorology or any other field related to geoengineering, yet claim to be experts in atmospheric science, and fancy themselves “debunkers”.  Shillidiocy is a term that best describes the rapidly growing industry of people ready and willing to sell out humanity for a few pennies per comment. Disinformation has been used throughout history for political purposes and these strategies are being utilized today by these paid internet trolls.

1 – CHARACTER ASSASSINATION

(Psychological Warfare – discredit, distract, intimidate, frustrate, divide & conquer) – Disinformation shills often make outrageous comments for the sole purpose of deflecting focus from the truth to distract us by creating a “controversial debate” where none truly exists.  Often, trolls use the “Trojan Horse” method to attempt to elicit an emotional response from people online, to evoke hostility with the intent of twisting it around to make the person look volatile, a classic “character assassination” tactic to discredit them, making them appear weak. On some occasions, they intentionally keep pushing a person into a heated argument, and will go so far as to “report” the person as being a “threat” to try to get them kicked off of the forum. Another major character assassination tactic is to highlight any negative or perceived flaw of an otherwise reputable person, whether true or false, to intentionally discredit them in an attempt to invalidate their viewpoint and make them seem baseless, to detract focus from the information they are sharing.  The trolls often “make stuff up” if they can’t find anything real to highlight for this goal, after all, shills are paid liars. Another trick these liars are taught is to use semantics to twist people’s words around and make it seem as though they’ve lied, to discredit them. These are all character assassination tactics that you will easily recognize happening all over the internet once you become familiar with them.

2 – DEMANDING IMPOSSIBLE PROOF

Disinformation shills sometimes pose as a supporter of the truth, or “friendly folks on the fence” politely asking simple questions, in a sly attempt to later discredit the movement. Often trolls posing as friendly allies will resort to posting long, incoherent diatribes (usually on fake blogs & articles) for the purpose of associating the movement with insanity; or other times to act as a “the voice of reason” and create a debate (where none exists) to make it appear as though the data isn’t strong enough, and they offer to play “devil’s advocate” to “help the movement”, then render any and all data as invalid regardless of how legitimate the source. They will “demand proof” then ignore it when it’s presented, or continue to demand impossible proofs. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, they will deem the material irrelevant and demand unattainable proof that is virtually impossible for the opponent to retrieve; for the purpose of detracting focus from the mounds of legitimate data available for those of us that take the time to do some real research beyond the disinformation site links.

3 – DOMINATE THE THREAD

Trolls often interject themselves into productive web discussions in order to make themselves appear credible as though they have a “real” argument, where none actually exists. Their job is to create controversy and instigate a “debate”. They scour the net and attack awareness videos, articles, blogs, public facebook pages, etc., posting links from metaxxxx or conxxxxxscience, but fail to post legitimate links with verifiable references. They relentlessly keep commenting on a thread to dominate the discussion with the intent to keep their comments at the very top.  They also vote their comments up and everyone else’s comments down, (if the forum offers that feature). This is evident when you become familiar with their methods. I have yet to see a disinformation shill post a reputable link, or ANY link, other than from those two disinformation sites. In addition, they adamantly refuse to look at real data. They intentionally divert attention from credible documentation, dismissing it without examination. They regurgitate the same tired harassing insults, and repetitive generic jargon about how water vapor condensation trails are formed, which has nothing to do with the persistent, spreading, lingering trails we often see covering the sky that is being done as “scientific research”, the prelude to fully implementing global geoengineering programs.

4 – PRE-WRITTEN SCRIPTED RESPONSES (cut & paste comments)

Trolls are supplied with a list or database with preplanned talking points and a format designed as generalized and deceptive responses to honest arguments. Geoengineering (chemtrails) “debunker” trolls are notorious for this, and note they never actually “debunk” anything. All they do is deflect from the truth to try to cast doubt and keep the denial tactic going so the profiteers of geoengineering can continue to suppress public outcry in order to keep spraying us without us balking and rising up to stop them. If you pay close attention and track the trolls, you will see that they often post the same comments over and over on many different threads.

5 – FALSE ASSOCIATION

This works hand in hand with #1 (character assassination), and the “Trojan Horse” troll. The goal is to sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule, engaging them in a hostile argument to try to discredit them, also known as the “attack the messenger” ploy. The goal of “false association” is to associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “paranoid conspiracy theorist” to make them look crazy and try to discredit them, or call them derogatory names such as “chemtard”, “ignorant”, or “liar”, attempting to invalidate anything they say regardless of how true it is.  The trolls seek to deliberately associate the movement with far fetched concepts like “Big Foot”, aliens, false flag conspiracy theories, etc., because of the inherent negative connotations, (tying in with “character assassination”). The ultimate goal is to provoke argument, create biases, and dissuade people from objectively examining any evidence presented.

6 – FALSE MODERATION

Pretending to be the “voice of reason” in an argument with obvious and defined sides in an attempt to move people away from what is clearly true, into the murky waters of “doubt” where the truth becomes “relative.”  And if that doesn’t work they will antagonize and goad opponents with insults, name calling, and bullying. If they can’t do anything else, they will chide and taunt their opponents and draw them into emotional responses with the goal of making them look foolish or mentally unbalanced, in hopes of rendering their point invalid merely by shifting focus to show how “sensitive they are to criticism”, in an attempt to deflect from their point and invalidate any data they are presenting.  This is why it’s best to ignore their taunting.

7 – STRAW MAN and “AD HOMINEM” ARGUMENTS

A very common technique is that the troll will accuse his opposition of subscribing to a certain point of view, even if he does not, will make it appear so, then attack that point of view (Straw Man). Or, the troll will put words in the mouth of his opposition, and then rebut those specific words.  He will use conjecture, ridicule, and accusation to try and prove himself as valid while discrediting others with absolutely nothing, shouting “you have no argument, that is just ad hominem”, which is ironically, exactly what he is doing. The troll is trained to appear confident, unwavering, and that he is undoubtedly right, when in reality, it’s the exact opposite. Basically, he is a paid liar and his goal is to create doubt and discredit the truth.

8 – POSING LEADING QUESTIONS and “PLAYING NICE”

When the internet shill realizes people are aware of his tactics, he will try to play nice, act innocent, and pose a seemingly “harmless” leading question.

William01702, used tactic #s 6, 8, and 2 to troll the video (link below) of the courageous Kristen Meghan, who stands strong to do what is right in the face of adversity to warn people about geoengineering and the disinformation sites. If you watch the video and listen to her, it is clear what is happening with the rampant disinformation in our mainstream; PAID shills are ready and willing to contribute to the demise of our world, and sell out their humanity to perpetuate lies for a measly buck. The shill “Hama Neggs” also trolled it with some derogatory comments about Kristen Meghan using #1 (character assassination).  These troll’s comments may, or may not, get deleted by the page moderator; but if they remain, notice the date and how quickly they found it. It’s their job to scour the net and attack, so in time, even if theirs get deleted, more paid trolls will appear.  If you check other awareness videos, you’ll see the same usernames in action repetitively.  Save LI Forum – 09 - Kristen Meghan – Geo-engineering

The following bold, italic quotes are actual troll comments made by username William01702 who is known to routinely attack youtube geoengineering awareness videos.

William01702 (troll):

“Could you please tell me what “disinformation” you have found on Metabunk or contrailscience? I mean, you claim the information isn’t factual, and then provide no evidence to support such a claim. Why?”… “It really is a legitimate question which deserves an answer. Despite what paranoid liars like GalileoGalileisGhost say.”
(If William01702 was just a random viewer, why would he care whether those sites have been exposed as disinformation, and “demand proof”, unless he IS an associate (a paid shill)? The answer becomes evident if you notice how he followed with the classic “false association” & “Trojan Horse” tactic to disparage shill buster, GalileoGalileisGhost. Would a random user that’s not associated with those disinformation sites have cause to do this)?

William01702 – on a different thread: (note the contrast when confronted for his shill activity):

“ I’m not a troll I’m just someone who is better educated in atmospheric science and aviation than all chemtards, combined.”
(notice his derogatory use of the word “CHEMTARDS” a classic Trojan Horse move).

William01702:

“Chemtards couldn’t be more stupid if they wanted to be. You people are evil alarmists who spread fear, hate, and ignorance based on a lack of education. I pity the chemtards!”
(does that sound like someone educated in atmospheric sciences or anything else for that matter)?

William01702 wrote this on an entirely different thread:

“Oh really and where do they say that THIS trail has ANYTHING to do with what they have “admitted to”. NO WHERE! It’s hilarious that you people read about some basic testing and then assume everything you see in the sky must be related to such testing. Chemtards are idiots! Oh, and BTW show me where anyone has admitted to any such thing! If you say HR2977 you’re a fucking moron!”

William01702 wrote this on yet another thread (verbatim, spelling errors & all):

“Tat should have read “because you are too stupid and lazy to understand basic fucking science”. But, does it matter?! Will it change anything?! No, you will always assume that just because you hate/fear the government that it must mean that you and your chemtard friends must be right about the trails in the sky. Nevermind the fact that you have never actually studed these subjects! You have visited conspiracy sites! You know it all real pilots are just STUPID for going to school for years!”

William01702 on yet another thread:

“Poor chemtards unable to understand he difference between an intentional nefarious release of chemicals and business as usual”.

William01702 and yet another thread:

“Why do you people pretend to understand that minor differences in temperature, engine power settings, engine types, and engine size can result in differences in trails, when its obvious that you are all fucking clueless!!! This video isn’t evidence of anything more than the ignorance of chemtards”!

William01702 on a video about chemical fallout from geoengineering (notice the pattern from the previous comments):

“Yup, I’m sure that she is a moron. And so are you. There is ZERO evidence that this “affliction” has ANYTHING to do with the trails in the sky. NONE! It’s nothing more than paranoid fantasy made up by those who like to pick at their skin. And you are right, she IS just one moron in a line of many. By the way accepting ignorant bullshit from OTHER paranoid losers on the internet is NOT “research”.”

William01702 wrote these comments on various videos as well:

“Stupid chemtards”, “Idiot”, “Moron”, AND “that is technology that is not only public knowledge, but is highly regulated. It also has nothing to do with any trails in the sky. That’s the problem with you people. You are completely ignorant but are too stupid to know it”!

Compare the subsequent comments with the name calling & insults, to the first one that was on a video where his disinformation sites were brought to light and notice how he tried to recover by looking innocent & friendly despite his hostility and antagonistic comments on other awareness videos.

Who are these trolls that have time to sit around and make comments on youtube all day and night, and WHY target awareness videos? The answer is clear, they are SHILLS. I took photos of the comment pages in the likely event that this loathsome user attempts to attack this blog and denies ever making those comments. So, unless he deletes all of his comments from all the youtube awareness videos he has attacked, and closes his account, (let’s hope he does), you can plainly see his existing comments (and more) on youtube by checking his page activity or tracking him on awareness videos. Just remember not to let the trolls bait you. They get PAID to antagonize you and LURE you to those disinformation sites.

It is apparent that some of these shills share usernames and have round the clock shifts because no one is online that often to target that many awareness videos without backup. William01702 is joined by known shills such as Hama Neggs (a particularly loathsome troll), Lizoir, Terry Ram,  Nwoflyer, epsilon892, Niglet Gook,  Belfrey1,  Jazzaconda,Baba Loo, MrFubar75, and several other usernames that have been identified as paid shills/trolls, all utilizing the same tactics and associated with the two known disinformation sites, employed by gaming programmer, the grand daddy of them all, Mick We$t, (or at least that’s the name he “goes by”). Their format is always the same and they often attack in teams to “back each other up”.  Anyone that does a little digging will find these same usernames frequently darkening awareness videos all over youtube, regurgitating insults, performing their usual antagonistic, tactical routine, and attempting to lure people over to their disinformation sites because they get compensated for it.

Less frequently, you’ll see these strategies mimicked by average people in the mainstream that have willfully succumbed to cognitive dissonance and easily fallen prey to the disinformation tactics that have been used on them. They seem happy to regurgitate the lies they have been told and are content to post links only from those disinformation sites, while refusing to look at any other credible data presented to them. It’s like a mass Stockholm Syndrome in which their limited intellects are easily held hostage by their disinformation captors, and they’ve fallen “in love” with Mick We$t and his band of marauding minions. These victims of mass brainwashing also exhibit the common trait among trolls, of refusing to examine credible, verifiable, REAL data (such as several scholarly documents that can be found through this link:http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=geoengineering+modeling+studies&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ei=e-q_UcHDCMjPiwLk4YEY&ved=0CC0QgQMwAA).

Sadly, people’s refusal to examine any data beyond the disinformation sites, means success for the disinformation campaign.  Getting the public to do their bidding, not only meets the goal of “divide and conquer” in the battle to pit us against each other, it keeps us distracted, engaged in their fictitious debate, and prevents us from focusing on the fact that heavy metals such as aluminum, barium, and strontium, and other toxic chemicals such as sulphuric acid, and silver iodide, are being sprayed into our air supply globally for the purpose of Weather Modification and Climate Engineering.  In this war on awareness, the truth becomes irrelevant, and the sleepwalkers, happy to remain blissfully ignorant, are proud to belong to the band of trolls that have, ironically, convinced them that we are the “ignorant” ones, and that they are the geniuses that have all the answers.

The telltale difference between mass cognitive dissonance and a paid internet troll, is that the trolls usually have obscure usernames, no profile pic (or a generic one) and if you track their previous comments on other threads, you will see that they have attacked using the same format over and over; in addition to attempting to lure people to the disinformation sites, where they get compensated to engage them in a futile “debate”, waste people’s time and distract them from spending time increasing awareness in their local community, and doing REAL research ongeoengineering.

Don’t let the trolls cause you to feel stupid for considering that geoengineering may be a reality and suppress your awareness.  Keep watching the sky and research information beyond the fixed mainstream search engines. Watch the documentaries, Look Up! and What in the World are They Spraying?, take notes and look up the information presented. The TRUTH is there for anyone that is intelligent enough to look past the deceit & lies.


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Re: Like, how scared should we be of zika?? [Re: ninjapls]
    #817907 - 08/09/16 07:10 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, yes, we've all seen this, it's funny that it always seems like conspiracy nuts only post this when their argument falls apart. :pipesmoke:

And I've been called several names by you up until this point. Don't try to act like you haven't been calling me a liar, and a shill, and full of myself. :rolleyes:

And look back at all you've posted, and not one bit of it are references to support your OP, beyond the few crummy posts about chemical control, which I've already covered ad nauseum.

I'm quickly coming to the conclusion that you cannot back up the claims of the video you posted. You haven't spoken about the original topic in several posts, but rather have shifted focus to me and my choice of words.

Typical, boring, conspiracy nut thread. :dogyawn:


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Re: Like, how scared should we be of zika?? [Re: Data]
    #817913 - 08/09/16 10:13 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Everything ive posted supports my OP, the very first thing the girl talks about is naled.
Obviously you're only paying attention to yourself.
You've been trying your hardest to divert all the attention in this thread to your bs like it's your job.
Again, why is it so hard for you to copy and paste YOUR sources?
Oh that's right, because you're pulling everything straight out of your ass.


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Re: Like, how scared should we be of zika?? [Re: ninjapls]
    #817914 - 08/09/16 10:33 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

So the zika wasnt created by isis?


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Re: Like, how scared should we be of zika?? [Re: Data]
    #817919 - 08/09/16 02:09 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Tell ya what, since you posted your links for chemical control of mosquitoes, I'll post only my links related to chemical control.

Instructions for application of Dibrom  (87.4% Naled)
Please direct your attention to ULV aerial spray. It looks like the actual rate of application is even less than 0.1lbs per acre, which further proves my "pointless numbers that I pulled out of my ass" as you so creatively called them.

Study on the uring content of Naled in humans pre and post spray in areas of Florida where Naled applatoon is common.
Please direct your attention towards the bottom of the abstract, in which the conclusions of the study are stated.

Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) for Naled in the form of Dibrom
This provides basic information on LD50 doses, chronic doses of concern, potential carcinogenic activity, water solubiluty, and lifespan of active compounds in water, soil, etc.

World Health Organization (WHO) summary of findings on pyriproxyfen in drinking water

This establishes the acute and chronic doses of concern for pyriproxyfen, and its potential for carcinogenic activity and reproductive harm.

Study on the efficacy of pyriproxyfen on development of mosquito larvae
Establishes the LC90 dose for pyriproxyfen in drinking water at 0.61 nanograms per liter of water (2.3 ng/gal), which is less than. 1/3000th of the recommended dose that I quoted.

Let me know if I missed anything regarding our discussions on chemical control. If you are having trouble with the math I used, I'll be glad to give you a quick review of basic math.

And as I've said before, I'll be glad to provide the rest of my sources the minute you provide yours.


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Re: Like, how scared should we be of zika?? [Re: poor boy]
    #817920 - 08/09/16 02:10 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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So the zika wasnt created by isis?




That sounds like it's own thread right there :bobmarley:


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Re: Like, how scared should we be of zika?? [Re: Data]
    #817922 - 08/09/16 03:14 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Lol, just as i thought, your sources are nothing more but the manufacturer's RECOMMENDED use of product, not how much is actually used, and biased studies done by corrupt institutions.
Garbage.

Some independent studies and experiments would be ideal.
Got any?

All you've provided is corporate bullshit.
Have you ever even worked for a corporation?
Do you have any idea how full of shit they are?

http://articles.latimes.com/2007/apr/08/local/me-amvac8
read all 5 pages.


This is like a Phillip K. Dick novel.


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Re: Like, how scared should we be of zika?? [Re: ninjapls]
    #817923 - 08/09/16 04:57 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

It's funny that you automatically discredit my sources, and yet consider yours somehow more credible, and then call for some sort of ideal, completely independent data or real-time testing of chemical application in a specific setting, which you and I both know is impossible to find. You are now the one who is falling under your own description of a disinformationist, specifically under poit #2 of your long-winded copypasta.

It's also funny that you continue to attack my character by suggesting that I'm a shill. So it is OK for you to be very passionate about your threads that directly contradict the consensus of the scientific community, and attack anyone who comments with a different view, almost like your livelihood depends on it....but when another person who is equally passionate about the same subject matter comments with a differing viewpoint, then they are automatically labeled as a paid shill?

Now I see why your ability to build a solid logical debate is terrible. :rolleyes: This us a classic diversionary tactic for someone who has run out of useful things to say in a debate.

Still waiting on the rest of your sources btw.


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Re: Like, how scared should we be of zika?? [Re: Data] * 1
    #817924 - 08/09/16 05:07 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

You put us instead of is, which completely invalidates your argument, you stupid shill.

P.S. This is the part where you say 'Agmotes out' and drop the mic.


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Re: Like, how scared should we be of zika?? [Re: Data]
    #817926 - 08/09/16 05:34 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Why are you supporting AMVAC and their practices on the population?

https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/AMVAC-Chemical-Reviews-E360866.htm

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Jul 1, 2015
"Bad Pay, Worse Management"
StarStarStarStarStar
Current Employee - Assistant Operator in Los Angeles, CA
Doesn't Recommend
Negative Outlook
CEO
I have been working at AMVAC Chemical full-time (More than 3 years)
Pros
There is absolutely nothing good about working for this horrific company. I honestly can't think of one good thing to say.
Cons
Horrific, incompetent management. They treat you like garbage. The pay is so far below the industry standard, its pathetic. The company violates every labor law, environmental law, you name it.
Advice to Management
Upper management must REPLACE every one there from Department Supervisors on up. And a couple of the incompetent Red Hats in the Technical Department.





And btw i only called you a shill once.
So idk why you say i'm "continuing to attack your character" when i'm clearly not. You've lost it man.


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Re: Like, how scared should we be of zika?? [Re: ninjapls]
    #817927 - 08/09/16 05:58 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Lol the msds is a pretty standard document, the results will be the same no matter which company you look at. The data stated is taken from other sources, rather than being tested/generated by the company itself. Do you have any direct experience with reading msds's? If so, you would know this.

The only reason I cited this particular company's msds is because they were one of the first search result.

But wow man, trying to link a glassdoor review on a company to inaccurate msds info...you really must be desperate to try and distract from the rest of those sources that you have yet to provide.


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Re: Like, how scared should we be of zika?? [Re: Data]
    #817928 - 08/09/16 06:08 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

MSDS are full of shit.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_data_sheet
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United States Edit
In the U.S., the Occupational Safety and Health Administration requires that SDSs be available to employees for potentially harmful substances handled in the workplace under the Hazard Communication regulation. The SDS is also required to be made available to local fire departments and local and state emergency planning officials under Section 311 of the Emergency Planning and Community Right-to-Know Act. The American Chemical Society defines Chemical Abstracts Service Registry Numbers (CAS numbers) which provide a unique number for each chemical and are also used internationally in SDSs.

Reviews of material safety data sheets by the U.S. Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board have detected dangerous deficiencies.

The board’s Combustible Dust Hazard Study analyzed 140 data sheets of substances capable of producing combustible dusts.[22] None of the SDSs contained all the information the board said was needed to work with the material safely, and 41 percent failed to even mention that the substance was combustible.

As part of its study of an explosion and fire that destroyed the Barton Solvents facility in Valley Center, Kansas, in 2007, the safety board reviewed 62 material safety data sheets for commonly used nonconductive flammable liquids. As in the combustible dust study, the board found all the data sheets inadequate.[23]

In 2012, the US adopted the 16 section Safety Data Sheet to replace Material Safety Data Sheets. This became effective on December 1, 2013. These new Safety Data Sheets comply with the Globally Harmonized System of Classification and Labeling of Chemicals (GHS). By June 1, 2015, employers are required to have their workplace labeling and hazard communication programs updated as necessary – including all MSDS's replaced with SDS-formatted documents.[24]




Why are you supporting AMVAC and their practices on the population?


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Re: Like, how scared should we be of zika?? [Re: ninjapls]
    #817931 - 08/09/16 06:45 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Your own bio agrees with me, bro.:rofl:


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