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 ShroomingChaos
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 Re: trimming alive/ in ground  [Re: Inocuole]
#741042 - 07/23/14 12:15 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tribalseed is right because thats just how it is here and always will be. You have to report findings along with test results and pictures regarding your experiment. Most people start a thread and post pics and findings as they go. This is how new techniques are discovered and tested. There are many examples of this found here at Growery and also on Shroomery.
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 Inocuole
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Registered: 01/29/14
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Again, devil's advocate here, if the pics would literally prove nothing, how the hell is a picture of anything, even a documented test, going to prove his point?
I've been on the shroomery forever and while pics are encouraged it's not a make or break for anyone believing what you say there either.
Even if this guy took a picture of some nugs looking super sticky and glistening with THC there would be no proof that those nugs were obtained using the methods he mentioned, or that they were even his buds at all. Pictures on the internet are about as reliable as guarantees you hear on TV.
Yes the guy made a claim, yes we have no proof, but you can't get *real* proof on the internet about things like this, if you're attempting to use sound logic to determine what is 100% fact, the internet is a barren wasteland of trickery.
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Deadkndys420
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Re: trimming alive/ in ground [Re: Inocuole]
#741058 - 07/23/14 03:07 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Inocuole said:
Yes the guy made a claim, yes we have no proof, but you can't get *real* proof on the internet about things like this
Yeah its not like they have test that can determine the THC potency.
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Inocuole
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Re: trimming alive/ in ground [Re: Deadkndys420]
#741059 - 07/23/14 03:16 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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They do but what's he going to do, take a picture of it? If he was really trying to deceive anyone, Photoshop would be right there to help him do it.
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Deadkndys420
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Re: trimming alive/ in ground [Re: Inocuole]
#741060 - 07/23/14 03:31 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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logically He would give a picture with a username next to the test or something similar.A lot harder photoshoping a piece of paper with a name on it or a monitor with the thread and making it look genuine.
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: trimming alive/ in ground [Re: Deadkndys420] 1
#741062 - 07/23/14 04:07 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Regardless the whole thing is bullshit. When a plant is cut it doesn't ooze out trichomes to begin with.
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Magash
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Quote:
Hawksresurrection said:
Regardless the whole thing is bullshit. When a plant is cut it doesn't ooze out trichomes to begin with.
Exactly what I was thinking when I saw it. Made me not take the thread seriously so I stayed out of it. The only thing I can think of is that trimming the buds stressed the plant out in some way. That is if you believe in the stress causes more trichomes bullshit which I don't.
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oeric mckenna
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Re: trimming alive/ in ground [Re: Magash]
#741068 - 07/23/14 05:05 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't remember saying there were more trichromes.
Bullshit eh? well then... I guess that's settled.
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Deadkndys420
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Re: trimming alive/ in ground [Re: oeric mckenna]
#741070 - 07/23/14 05:09 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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oeric mckenna said:
After complete flushes and when your buds are done ripening, if you do a full trim with the plant in the dirt still and wait 3 days before harvest, she will exude massive amounts of sticky resinous juice...
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oeric mckenna
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Re: trimming alive/ in ground [Re: Deadkndys420]
#741073 - 07/23/14 05:33 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Maybe my understanding of what's occurring isn't scientifically or gramatically accurate but I'm certain I have 2 seperate jars and the ground trimmed buds, although equally smooth, can't be held in the lungs because the smoke is intensely dank. I'm doing this repeatedly for my own head stash.
I'd consider this more a curing method tag on than a grow technique. My dad used to have one I'd never heard of anyone doing where he'd put wet buds in the freezer for about 15min before drying.
He'd say it "zaps the chlorophyll taste", and visually darkens bud color, although I don't use that myself.
At risk of being completely wrong with any idea, I'd say nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Anything we now accept as a thing was once something being tried, and whether right or wrong, this is how any science gets pushed forward.
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: trimming alive/ in ground [Re: oeric mckenna]
#741079 - 07/23/14 06:15 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes that's how science gets pushed forward. But people who use science correctly will do controlled experiments, with results showing what the differences are. Without that, of course we are going to call bullshit.
I could come in here and say I spread lotion on my buds and they turned out way more sticky than the ones I didn't. I don't have any results, just believe me. Take my word for it man....
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Magash
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I put up a post years ago saying that dipping cuttings in gel helped them even with a ez-cloner and everybody said I was fucking crazy cause the ez-cloner washes the gel off within seconds of being put in. I said that it does it's job in just seconds.
So I did the tests and the pics
With no gel
With gel
The gel used
For me I found that increasing potash increases trichome production but I have no test on that yet
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: trimming alive/ in ground [Re: Magash]
#741096 - 07/23/14 08:07 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, potassium is derived from potash, so that would make sense.
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oeric mckenna
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I have a buddy who uses that gel in his cloner solution. Maybe the gel does wash off but also recirculates. I just read a study where chlorine water actually helps clones, not only by killing nasty root rotting bacteria but there's also something in the chlorine that the clones use beneficially.
I found it interesting as a clone addict
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Midgetpawn
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Re: trimming alive/ in ground [Re: oeric mckenna]
#741138 - 07/24/14 09:38 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's possible that cannabis sap isn't even psychoactive. People would have you believe it's some sort of pure resin, but I'd assume it's just like any sap. See if you can test some =)
Edit add: I read recently that adding lots of vitamin B after 12/12 can potentially majorly boost trichrome production, but it might have been said by a company selling vitamin b and may or may not be true.
Edited by Midgetpawn (07/24/14 09:44 AM)
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